Did Sony ever sell stand-alone AC Adapters for the PSP?

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Did Sony ever sell stand-alone AC Adapters for the PSP?

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I know they did it for the US and Japan:

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But what about Europe?
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Where is this question going?
The PSP-100 charger is rated for 100-242V - so if you already have a charger you only need a powercord/plug converter for the country (UK for example is different from Germany - so there is no one "European" plug).
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I don't know if they were ever sold seperately, but I'm guessing your charger has given up.
My psp-1000 charger recently died so now I use a phone charger (5v 2a) and a usb cable that has the right barrel connector on the end. You can get them on ebay sold as psp charge and data cable.
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HydrogLox wrote:Where is this question going?
Indeed. I don't mean to be rude, but Lawfer, you can't assume that the entire forum live in Europe.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:
HydrogLox wrote:Where is this question going?
Indeed. I don't mean to be rude, but Lawfer, you can't assume that the entire forum live in Europe.
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I never said that, I was asking in case someone (most likely residing in Europe) knew whether or not they did.

Usually these kind of products are only sold stand-alone in Japan and the US though.
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But you indicate that you're not interested in the US and Japanese plugs, so I assume you mean Europe-only. You could have included that info in your thread title.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:... so I assume you mean Europe-only. You could have included that info in your thread title.
Now granted the actual post kind of made that clear. My question was trying to determine whether the topic was practically motivated or was just "idle curiosity" (or a lazy question - not bothering communicating potentially relevant context).
Lawfer wrote:These kind of products are only sold stand-alone in Japan and the US though.
"These kind of products" being general clamshell packaged PSP accessories by Sony being offered though retail channels - or specifically clamshell packaged PSP AC Adaptors by Sony being offered through retail channels?

The original question seems to be leading up to the conclusion that "PSP AC Adaptors by Sony" weren't sold separately in Europe through retail. And even if somebody reports seeing one/buying one in a store that availability could have been restricted to a single country (or select countries) within Europe. The obvious followup question would be "why weren't separate replacement PSP AC power supplies by Sony being sold in Europe". Likely only some SCEE employees would know the real answer.

There is room for speculation that they simply didn't think that it was worth their while. I don't think that in Japan or the US they had to deal with more than one single plug type - in Europe however they already had to deal with the decision of how many PSP units (packaged with the correct cord) to ship to each country. Trying to predict the demand for replacement AC power supplies was probably pointless. It would have been far simpler to supply the various repair depots with some AC Adapters without the cord/plug and let them source the local cord separately (Did anybody in Europe (which country?) ever order a replacement AC Adapter directly from Sony? Did it include the cord? Was it delivered in a clamshell package or simply in a plastic bag or envelope?).
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The reason why I am asking, is because I am in Europe and my PSPgo and PSP 2000 are respectively US and Japanese, so they both use the same plug connectors (as a matter of fact I am using my PSP 2000 Ac Adaptor with my PSPgo through the PSP go cradle, because the PSP-N100 AC Adaptor that came with the PSP Go does not have a DC IN connector). While I'd rather just hook it directly whitout using a step down converter for no good reason.

HydrogLox wrote:"These kind of products" being general clamshell packaged PSP accessories by Sony being offered though retail channels - or specifically clamshell packaged PSP AC Adaptors by Sony being offered through retail channels?
Some do some don't, for example Nintendo of Japan sell separately the AC Adapators of both the Wii U console and the Wii U gamepad in retail packaging and everything, Nintendo of America does the same thing HOWEVER they only sell them through their Nintendo Online Store and I suspect much like their Wii U gamepad bigger battery they are not packaged in fancy clam-shells or boxes or anything, just a plastic seal. Nintendo of Europe does no such thing on the other hand, you want a European (UK Plug, Schuko, Australian) you are gonna have to buy a Wii U or look on ebay, but they do sell Wii U gamepad bigger batteries at retail (you can get these from amazon and they come in a box with a screwdriver, pretty neat).

You might think this is not important, but this would be helpful in case someone moves from a country to another and wanted to get new wires for an easy connection, or someone just got a Japanese or US Wii U and wanted to use it in Europe.

HydrogLox wrote:"The original question seems to be leading up to the conclusion that "PSP AC Adaptors by Sony" weren't sold separately in Europe through retail. And even if somebody reports seeing one/buying one in a store that availability could have been restricted to a single country (or select countries) within Europe. The obvious followup question would be "why weren't separate replacement PSP AC power supplies by Sony being sold in Europe". Likely only some SCEE employees would know the real answer.]
Here's an interesting thing, Sony released docking charging stations for both the PS3 and PS4, the charging dock station for the PS3 where released in Japan, the US and Europe, however for some unknown reasons (I am thinking due to low sales) Sony of America decided to discontinue the product in America not long after theyr started selling it (like a year or two afterwards) while the PS4 charging docking station was never released in America while it was released in Japan and Europe.
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RocketBelt wrote:I don't know if they were ever sold seperately, but I'm guessing your charger has given up.
My psp-1000 charger recently died so now I use a phone charger (5v 2a) and a usb cable that has the right barrel connector on the end. You can get them on ebay sold as psp charge and data cable.
Just as an FYI those also work for the PSTV.
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Lawfer wrote:The reason why I am asking, is because I am in Europe and my PSPgo and PSP 2000 are respectively US and Japanese, so they both use the same plug connectors (as a matter of fact I am using my PSP 2000 Ac Adaptor with my PSPgo through the PSP go cradle, because the PSP-N100 AC Adaptor that came with the PSP Go does not have a DC IN connector). While I'd rather just hook it directly whitout using a step down converter for no good reason.
Both the PSP-100 and the PSP-N100 are rated for 100V-240V 50/60Hz - so you should be able to use "the bricks" you already have anywhere in Europe (probably the world) as long as you get a local cord or some kind of plug adapter.
Lawfer wrote:You might think this is not important, but this would be helpful in case someone moves from a country to another and wanted to get new wires for an easy connection, or someone just got a Japanese or US Wii U and wanted to use it in Europe.
Systems with external power bricks are usually easier to globally re-locate (or import) because it often makes more sense to get a domestic power supply rather than a voltage converter. People who prefer internal power supplies tend to overlook that fact (as it's a non-feature for stationary, domestic use).

The situation with the controller charging docks could be a result of the culture inside the territory's SCE organization or indicate that in general in the US brand loyalty will not cause most customers to spend significantly more money for an "Original Sony" accessory (rather than a lower cost Playstation Official Licensed Product).
RocketBelt wrote:usb cable that has the right barrel connector on the end. You can get them on ebay sold as psp charge and data cable.
The only issue is that actual USB ports are not supposed to supply more than 500 mA - this is the reason why the PSP-N100 has a "tongue" on the USB Type A port side preventing you from shoving a normal (non-grooved) USB Type A plug into it as it can deliver 2000 mA. While 500 mA is sufficient to charge a PSP (Go) it presumably isn't to reliably operate it. Obviously your phone charger supplies the necessary 2000 mA (2A).
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HydrogLox wrote:The PSP-100 charger is rated for 100-242V - so if you already have a charger you only need a powercord
HydrogLox wrote:Both the PSP-100 and the PSP-N100 are rated for 100V-240V 50/60Hz - so you should be able to use "the bricks" you already have anywhere in Europe (probably the world) as long as you get a local cord
Where could one buy such Powercord? I tried to look at "I-Sheng" or "JET" (powercords typically used by mordern Sony products) and couldn't find any for Europe (Schuko plugs).

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/ ... p/37382448

http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/que ... ord.50795/
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Look for a power cord that has an IEC 60320-1 C7 (aka "figure of 8") connector on the appliance end (like this one). For example the power cord for my laptop PSU brick fits/works with the PSP-100, PSP-N100, PCH-ZAC1, CECHZA1, etc.

amazon.de example

Alternately use your original cords with travel plug adaptors.
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Lawfer wrote:I tried to look at "I-Sheng" or "JET" (powercords typically used by mordern Sony products) and couldn't find any for Europe (Schuko plugs).
There would be no reason to use a Schuko-plug for a PSP power supply - the supply is double-insulated and does not need protective earth and it does not draw enough power to need something bigger than a standard Europlug. This makes it much easier for Sony, because the Europlug is compatible with more countries' sockets than Schuko, so they fewer SKUs to serve all of Europe.
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Okay, so after looking through ebay for some PSP-104 or PSP-384 AC Adapters in new condition and only finding used ones, I just decided to just use my PSP-100 AC Adapter and got a C7 Euro power cable to use with it.

I settled for this one: http://www.oehlbach.com/en/power/powercord-c-7

The interesting thing is that PSP-100, PSP-300 and PSP-N100 are all detachable and you can easily swap the C7 power cables, while the PSP-104, PSP-384 and PSP-N104 are only a one-set hardwired cables (so you can't even swap power cords even if you wanted to).

PSP-100 (Japan and US):

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PSP-104 (Europe):

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PSP-380 (Japan and US):

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PSP-384 (Europe):

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PSP-N100 (Japan and US):

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PSP-N104 (Europe):

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Lawfer wrote:while the PSP-104, PSP-384 and PSP-N104 are only a one-set hardwired cables (so you can't even swap power cords even if you wanted to).
The all-in-one design is cheaper to manufacture (and possibly easier to source in smaller batches). Also finding travel plug adapters to convert Europlugs to the local standard is (globally) usually ridiculously easy - as long as the core PSU is rated for INPUT: AC100V-240V 50/60Hz. Now the PSP-380, PSP-384 and PSP-N104 are only rated to output 1.5A instead of 2.0A - (still 3 times the current of an on-spec USB port) so the PSP may take longer to charge, especially if you're charging while operating it.

(As it happens the PS Vita Brick (PCH-ZAC1) output is rated at 1.5A as well, while the PS TV's PDEL-100 is rated at 2A).
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What about the PSP-N100? 1.5A or 2A?

Also see the thing, I am not interested in charging anything, I am only using them for TV output, so basically my PSP Go stays there on it's cradle while I play games using the Dualshock 3. So I would still use my PSP-2000 even if I removed the battery pack and only hooked it to the AC Adapter.
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Lawfer wrote:What about the PSP-N100? 1.5A or 2A?
The PSP-N100 is only rated for 1.5A. However the PSP-N340 cradle accepts DC5V from a coaxial power connector which could belong to a PSP-100 (2.0A). 1.5A (PSP-380/PSP-384) may be enough as the later PSUs seem to settle on that - though those may have been designed to go with the PSP Street (PSP E1000) specifically.
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HydrogLox wrote:The PSP-N100 is only rated for 1.5A. However the PSP-N340 cradle accepts DC5V from a coaxial power connector which could belong to a PSP-100 (2.0A). 1.5A (PSP-380/PSP-384) may be enough as the later PSUs seem to settle on that - though those may have been designed to go with the PSP Street (PSP E1000) specifically.
Well technically you could also use the PSP-N100/PSP-N104 AC Adapter on the PSP-N340, you would need a USB-A to DC 5V cable, though I see little point in going through the additional hurdles when you can simply use the PSP-100/PSP-104 or PSP-380/PSP-384.

The PSP-380/PSP-384 was originally the AC Adapter of the PSP-3000.
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