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Einzelherz wrote:Second, I'm not going through every game made to see if they can be 240p.
Aww. :c Can you at least check all the ones that you own?
I personally don't bother with VC except for N64 and I'm bummed that it doesn't have a 240p option.
The native 480p output is absolutely amazing though. Crystal-clear in a higher rendered resolution with none of the blur found on the original Nintendo 64 hardware.
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GeneraLight wrote: Aww. :c Can you at least check all the ones that you own?
That's totally unnecessary. It is well known that most 16 and 8-bit games support 240p, outside of a handful of TG16 games. N64 games are 480i/p only.
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There's not anything between the NEC XM29 and the XM37 is there? Everything I've seen doesn't mention anything, but figure it's worth asking about.

Image quality-wise they're better than the 27"+ PVMs, right? As I recall Fudoh said the larger PVMs really aren't up to snuff compared to the smaller ones, as they were used as presentation monitors. The NEC were presentation monitors too, but are they in a completely different class?
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Yes nothing in-between 29 and 37 inches.

The 37 incher is pretty sharp for it's size. The 29 incher, I have never seen one in person though, but from all I've heard they are nice sharp monitors. Not BVM-sharp, but still pretty good. the scan lines also have a different look than Sony's, of course, with the NEC being equipped with a slot mask (AKA in-line shadowmask, AKA Cromaclear technology)

The NEC's look somewhat like this :

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Compared to the Sony's :

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I have never seen a 25 or 29 inch PVM, but from what I've read the XM29 will be a bit sharper than those two, as the large PVMs have a softer grill
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Of course a BVM will outclass it, just curious compared to the bigger PVMs that sounded very underwhelming. It sounds like the XM/XP29 or 37 are the best choices for >20" professional monitors, unless you're counting 16:9 screens like a D32.
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I'm looking for a cheap line doubler with zero lag (or near to zero) like the Extron Andora (mentioned by Fudoh in his page), but this is impossible to find. There is an Extron 4LDxi in ebay but I can't find any info about its lag. does someone know something about this line doubler?
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Today, I upgraded my CPU by myself. Just earlier, I was listening to some music on Spotify, and the music started stuttering very briefly (like 1/16th of a second) every few seconds. Is it overheating? Did I not use enough thermal paste?
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You only need a pea-sized amount so I doubt it. Infinitely more likely it's just a typical network issue.
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Your cpu is likely fine, but you should be running speedfan or something similar anyway to monitor temps.
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atheistgod1999 wrote:Today, I upgraded my CPU by myself. Just earlier, I was listening to some music on Spotify, and the music started stuttering very briefly (like 1/16th of a second) every few seconds. Is it overheating? Did I not use enough thermal paste?
You don't want to put in too much paste since that can actually overheat your cpu which will cause it to throttle. Your best course of action is to monitor those cpu temps whenever you are running your programs to see how they react.
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I've read a lot of conflitcting information about the video quality and ghosting effect of the 1Chip SFC/SNES and the Jr. consoles. Which one would you recommend or which one has a better picture quality? Maybe also considering before/after modding since the SFC Jr. seems to not support RGB.
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The mini is easy to find, comparatively. If you can solder, you can reconnect its rgb and s video. Just do it instead of min/maxing.

Or at least that's my motto.
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I was just playing Sunset Riders on my RGB modded mini and I cannot imagine a better looking image, and even if there is something better I don't consider chasing it meaningful in any way. Looks fantastic as is.
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kamiboy wrote:I was just playing Sunset Riders on my RGB modded mini and I cannot imagine a better looking image, and even if there is something better I don't consider chasing it meaningful in any way. Looks fantastic as is.
Did you mod the Jr. yourself? Is it difficult? In contrast is it more difficult to improve the video quality of a 1Chip SFC/SNES? Since I've read that you would have to perform a 750 Ohm mod or a 20 Ohm on pin 155 of the S-CPUN on those, like explained here: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... &p=1212713
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Easy as apple pie, if I remember right. I do all my mods myself.
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I finally got around to testing the 480p output on my Wii for VC games and as expected the TV shows that they are 480p. I tried switching my Wii to 480i mode and running the VC games for comparison, but it says invalid format once the game starts.

Any idea why this is the case?
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Dvnrm1 wrote:I finally got around to testing the 480p output on my Wii for VC games and as expected the TV shows that they are 480p. I tried switching my Wii to 480i mode and running the VC games for comparison, but it says invalid format once the game starts.

Any idea why this is the case?
I'm guessing the TV doesn't recognize 240p. If you're running it through component, try using composite (or S-Video if available).
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The TV definitely recognizes 240p sources via composite. I don't actually have the Wii composite cable handy but I'm guessing it's fair to assume that it's merely that the component cables are the issue? I assumed it would be fine since they work with 480i, but 240p isn't exactly the same.
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The Wii component cables work fine with 240p output.
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Guspaz wrote:The Wii component cables work fine with 240p output.
Yeah, it's not the Wii's fault, but it may be that the TV isn't compatible with 240p over it's component connection. This would also be a problem if you're trying to play PS1 games on PS2 running to component.
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I brought out my PSOne with its LCD last night to mess around with MK Trilogy (only kind of terrible). I noticed that I'm getting streaking to the right, specifically in blue. It's very noticeable on the health bars.

Is this just the aging of the LCD? I admit I don't play it much, but I don't recall this the last time it was on - roughly a year ago. Is it possible that it's something actually fixable?
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Einzelherz wrote:I brought out my PSOne with its LCD last night to mess around with MK Trilogy (only kind of terrible). I noticed that I'm getting streaking to the right, specifically in blue. It's very noticeable on the health bars.

Is this just the aging of the LCD? I admit I don't play it much, but I don't recall this the last time it was on - roughly a year ago. Is it possible that it's something actually fixable?
It's definitely possible that the ribbon cable is coming loose.
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BazookaBen wrote:
Dvnrm1 wrote:RetroRGB's article indicated that 240p is something you have to manually enable, and that it's not even available for a lot of games.
RetroRGB is wrong, he basically has it backwards. 240p is default for 99% of 16-bit and 8-bit VC games. It's only after you enter the 480i code that they go to 480i. But that can be reversed again by doing the 240p code (and Nintendo actually doesn't call it 240p, they call it "double strike" or something, since the video lines are displayed on the same line as the previous frame, instead of interlaced).

And I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience with 15khz CRT's, because the difference between 240p and 480i is obvious on them. On digital flat panel TV's, you're at the mercy of whatever video processor Samsung, Panasonic, LG, etc, decided to use. They can all look totally different, and they definitely don't look like the image given by a CRT.
Sorry to bring this up, but I'm not sure if RetroRGB is wrong. Not saying you are either, it might be something that depends on which Wii model you have or something.

I recently bought a CRT after several years of not owning one and when I hooked up my Wii (with Nintendo-brand component cables), VC games... were disappointing, to say the least. They looked nothing like all the pictures everyone posts on sites like this.

I did some research and learned that you have to manually enable 240p (or 480p) and after doing that, my VC games started look a lot better. I could see scanlines, whereas before everything was kind of blurry, and some of the weird flickering that used to plague (mostly NES) games had been completely eliminated.

I've been under the impression that this is 240p, so I guess the question is: have I been mistaken? What is 240p supposed to like and what is 480i supposed to like on a CRT through component inputs?
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My virtual console games on my Wii are loading in 240p, but then, it's possible that I could have changed some setting 5+ years ago and don't remember.

On a CRT, 240p should look stable, and 480i should look flickery.
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I guess it's possible that later Wii's defaulted to 480i, but my late-2007 Wii defaulted to 240p.
Wata123 wrote: I've been under the impression that this is 240p, so I guess the question is: have I been mistaken? What is 240p supposed to like and what is 480i supposed to like on a CRT through component inputs?
This is easy, play any Wii game, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, whatever, on your 15khz CRT, and they will launch in 480i. That's what it looks like: sharp, but with flicker on horizontal lines.

240p, it has scan lines going through the picture, there are pictures all over the internet of 240p on CRT's.
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Iirc mine defaulted to 480i and I had to code in 240p. Wii is from 2010.
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Einzelherz wrote:Iirc mine defaulted to 480i and I had to code in 240p. Wii is from 2010.
Interesting. Maybe they had enough problems with flat panel TV's that they changed the default mode on new units. Of course, everybody with a flat panel TV should have been running 480p anyway.
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What I recall reading was that they changed the VC titles to default to 480i.
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The default resolution depends on the game. Some games only output 240p, while others only output 480i. For games that support both, the default resolution is 480i. 240p is only possible when your Wii is set to 480i.

The Nintendo 64 is a special case though. All 21 N64 games on the Wii Virtual Console output like Wii games and will render in 480i when the system is set to 480i and render in 480p when the system is set to 480p.
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