Specineff wrote:Again, stop playing the "Compared to Hillary" game, Quash.
I stopped well before you asked me to, though I really don't see why we shouldn't be comparing our two choices for president.
And that's why we're going to paint them all with the same brush.
He literally said not all Mexicans are criminals.
Like that judge whose ethnicity causes a conflict of interest in the pursuit of justice for those Trump defrauded.
Yeah, Trump probably did willingly dupe people into attending a university he had no intention of funding. Again, he's no saint. But there is most certainly a conflict of interest with the judge, seeing as he's a member of a legal organization called La Raza (oh, but of course, it's not
that La Raza, so it's all kosher. Just don't judge anyone that claims membership to the Kool Kidz Klub, either).
Back to square one: What is done is done, and the excuse that the media is the one distorting his words has worn out. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Sorry, but adding "I think he has some days in which he's a good person" in the end doesn't undo me calling you all sorts of hateful, racist, baseless and ignorant adjectives.
It is not hateful or racist (and certainly not baseless) to point out that immigrants from Mexico commit crime. For many, their residence in the country puts them in a dubious legal status to begin with.
I guess it's racist to say white people commit crimes too, then? Because I have no problem admitting that. And if it's crime statistics you want, it's crime statistics you'll get.
Prove it. Stats. Quotes.
I said at worst, meaning it's a possible worst case scenario, not that it's certainly the case. Maybe one of these days I'll dig down this rabbit hole, but right now I frankly have better things to do with my time.
Like that about illegal immigration from Mexico actually decreasing thanks to better life conditions there, enforcement of existing laws here, the recession, and a shift in the global economy
You think a native Californian doesn't know this already? Citizens aren't the only ones who can't afford to live in the state anymore.
Doesn't change, minimize, or dilute the fact he still has a huge hateboner for us Mexicans
He hates that he US government doesn't enforce the immigration laws it has on the books and that it lets American companies manufacture in Mexico with little to no penalties.
and equals ethnicity with criminal record.
Jesus Christ, that is literally not what he said. He said it is not limited to Mexico or even South America.
Who are these loons?
La Raza, Brown Berets, etc. A good portion of Mexicans who aren't associated with these groups seem to feel the same way, and, unfortunately, so do some of the politicians allowing them to stay in the country.
And what have they accomplished in that regard? Or in a way affects you and me? Moreover, what chance do they ever have of achieving their goal?
California is nearly a Hispanic majority state; I'd say they're well on their way to achieving this. If someone as smart as you gets this defensive over someone simply stating that immigrants commit crime, imagine how easy it'll be to control a bunch of idiots into fighting for a cause that works against their best interest.
Good thing their saber-rattling didn't affect you
Awfully presumptuous, don't you think?
I couldn't get a job in high school because I wasn't fluent in Spanish. I was told on several occasions that it was the reason I couldn't get an entry level job. Even if it was a lie, it's one with enough basis in reality that they felt comfortable using it on myself and others.
Could it be just like there are ads for Walmart and Home Depot in Mexican radio stations in border cities? You know, separate entities paying for airtime on the stations with the widest coverage and audience? Just like the Mexican consulate also pays for airtime on US radio and TV stations here in Phoenix to inform people of their services?
Seriously dude, stop with the false equivalencies. Home Depot isn't running for political office. The consulate is a function of the government, not a special interest. Moreover, there are laws that are supposed to prevent foreign political parties from advertising in the US, but I guess there's some loophole being used to run PRI ads in California.
I'm referring to your overall tactic of dodging facts and questions
I don't dodge anything. I will ignore things that are either irrelevant or not worth changing the subject for.
then posing a different conundrum when holes are poked in your arguments.
Nobody has poked a hole in anything. I offered cash to anyone who could poke a hole in some things I said earlier and nobody even tried.
And seriously, at that point you should have figured out I'm from Mexico.
How am I supposed to know? You could just as easily be from Ecuador, El Salvador, etc. and simply immigrated through Mexico.