Looking forward to "NX"? (aka The Switch Thread)

[Lord Satori]

Honestly, I never understood people who get hyped about a console for it's own sake. Once we get word of what type of games it'll have, I'll consider it.

[GaijinPunch]

Honestly, I never understood people who get hyped about a console for it's own sake. Once we get word of what type of games it'll have, I'll consider it.

You must not be old enough to remember Sega consoles.

[TransatlanticFoe]

Understandable, it's been 15 years now

[Strider77]

I'm guilty of Sega console hype.

[JBC]

I like the idea of NX & will probably get it right away unless there's some major caveat revealed between now & then. I'm not a console-exclusive kinda guy but I still have a bit of brand loyalty. My childhood would have been shit without Nintendo, & I feel now they need my support. Besides, we all know there will at least be great first party titles.

Also, cartridges! ^_______^

[Obiwanshinobi]

Besides, we all know there will at least be great first party titles.

I don't. Pretty much all first party Wii games I got (Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime Trilogy) disappointed me. Have yet to play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, mind.

[GaijinPunch]

Besides, we all know there will at least be great first party titles.

I don't. Pretty much all first party Wii games I got (Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime Trilogy) disappointed me. Have yet to play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, mind.

Sounds like you should get Call of Duty then.

[JBC]

Haha, tru dat GaijinPunch.

[gameoverDude]

I can see cartridges working again, esp. with Vita and 3DS using them and ROM prices having come down since Neo-Geo. Hopefully, NX carts' physical size can be kept down to about that of a PC Engine HuCard.

Just imagine if 64 GB ROM chips can be made for a low price. I'd rather not have a game make compromises to fit a 32 GB cart. A game price of $60 will be fine- hopefully we won't be seeing a repeat of $70+ N64 games.

I'd actually prefer a single, bigger, higher res screen than two of'em.

That's how I felt about Contra 4 on DS. Instead of two 256 x 192 screens, one 384 x 256 vertical screen would've been better.
Also, I wouldn't mind a 2-piece portable with a detachable controller so you could set it in Yoko or Tate mode. Take PSP Star Soldier, which is slightly awkward to control because you hold the unit at the 6:00 & 12:00 positions.

[iconoclast]

I don't. Pretty much all first party Wii games I got (Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime Trilogy) disappointed me. Have yet to play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, mind.

I agree. The Wii U turned my opinion around on Nintendo, though. I thought Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze*, and NSMB Wii U were much better than anything they made for the Wii. Plus they published a bunch of good stuff. I can't complain.

(*Returns might be almost as good as Tropical Freeze if you play it on an emulator with proper controls. I haven't yet.)

[Skykid]

I wouldn't mind a 2-piece portable with a detachable controller so you could set it in Yoko or Tate mode.

Ha ha, I love in 2016 we're looking at the latest hardware with a view to Tating that shit. Shmupsfarm4eva.

[BryanM]

I really don't buy the detachable controller thing. Would just be another point of failure. Seems like it'd be cheaper to just support wireless controllers. And the same kind of ports the NES Emu box uses.

I really like the built in screen protector that the cover flap of the DS serves. It could also be used as a stand if it could fold all the way back.

Really all we're talking about is a portable unit with an HDMI out port. The type of thing computers have been doing for decades now.

[evil_ash_xero]

I'm not sure what I think about this thing yet. One part of me is disappointed (but I expected to be). However, if they are able to have their portable library mixed with their console library, there could be a lot of sweet games on it.

I'd certainly like the Wii U more, if I could play Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kid Icarus, etc. on it.

I would LOVE for this to be an option for more people to make games that won't make them go bankrupt. So, we'd have more games with more risk taking. It probably won't happen though.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Sounds like you should get Call of Duty then.

Played PC demos of the first one & its United Offensive expansion back in the day, couldn't fuckin' stand the music. Of all depictions of war(fare) in games, this has to be the most Offensive indeed.

I thought Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze*, and NSMB Wii U were much better than anything they made for the Wii.

I liked the look of SM 3D World & Mario Kart 8 WAY better than Mario Wii titles, but long before the console reached the ripe age when I tend to buy another gen device, Nintendo just terminated it.

Plus they published a bunch of good stuff.

Actually, as a publisher they did Wii's library some service for my money as well (thinking of Excite Truck, S&P2, Kororinpa and Tetris Party Deluxe* here - shame the only mention of Hudson Soft - the latter's very devs - is in fine print on the instruction manual's last page or so, but I suppose Tetris Online, Inc. are to be blamed for that as much as anybody).

*) It would seem Nintendo published those Hudson Soft Wii games in PAL.

[BIL]

I AM NOW

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[BryanM]

Another patent about modular controller parts.

I don't really see the utility or point. The current input devices are at a minimum the equivalent of 18 to 20 button inputs.

This sort of thing reminds me a bit of how Atari had a weird boner for keypads, and tried to make keypad overlays for everything.

[BrianC]

I'd certainly like the Wii U more, if I could play Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kid Icarus, etc. on it.

You can play the GBA Fire Emblem on it, though I rather have seen that on 3DS. There's also the NES Kid Icarus, but that is probably not the one you are referring to.

[mamboFoxtrot]

I'd be surprised if Nintendo actually went with that. Nintendo barely ever even programs basic button configuration options into their games, and generally seems opposed to customization in general. It also seems like quite a lot of small choking hazards for young children.

[Ed Oscuro]

If they can make it work, the customizable controller stuff could be pretty good for users, and great for them. It would allow Nintendo to potentially cater to a variety of gamers, possibly allow Nintendo to collect royalties by licensing third party manufacturers (if the swappable controls have some DRM scheme, like the former Keurig coffee pod), and possibly reduce the expense of failures.

Parts 1 and 3 appeal to me. I'm a stickler for having good controllers on the 360 but the shoddy nature of most controllers and their terrible reliability has been a constant issue. If you could take the shitty $1.50 malfunctioning part and replace that without tearing the damn things down to their small parts, most people would see that as a win. Of course, this would allow Nintendo to eliminate a huge category of warranty service costs, and at the same time they could charge pretty much whatever they want for replacements.

I've seen a thread elsewhere with people pointing to obvious failure points in the NX design. This won't help if the screen dies, but for people who want to keep their NX systems going in the long haul, easy-to-replace buttons are a must. GameBoys that have survived have only done so due to the relative ease of tearing them down, after all. The NX will simply be too complicated for that to be an option, and this is really the only obvious way to salvage durability - make it more modular.

I agree, it could be a hazard to children. My money's on any controller swappables being so tightly bonded together that user customization will be out of the question, unless you can make your own sealed plastic enclosures. There will probably only be a few electrical connection points, the control surface, and the rest of the plastic surface will be blank aside from join seams.

Funny - maybe I'll end up getting that Shield after all...this looks like it's actually just a Shield 2 with Nintendo-designed ergonomics and UI. It's a great match between these two companies, and rather brilliant again. But I'll try not to gush too much - the NX concept still has big downsides compared to the "big boy" consoles, like paying a markup for a terrible screen with no obvious necessity, and swappable controller bits instead of using the pretty well proven USB port for a wide variety of regular controllers. But clearly Nintendo has no interest in getting bruised by battles in those markets again.

[GaijinPunch]

My main questions are:

Will the Zelda game be better on the NX?
Will it be region free (doubtful)
If not, which region will have the better games (and quicker)?

As Japan's economy continues to sink, it's become more common to see flagship Japanese titles released in the US first.

[BryanM]

As a Professor Know It All, I can assist.

Will the Zelda game be better on the NX?

Yes. 1.8% better looking.

Will it be region free (doubtful)

No chance whatsoever.

If not, which region will have the better games (and quicker)?

As Japan's economy continues to sink, it's become more common to see flagship Japanese titles released in the US first.

Depends on what you care about. If it's Dragon Quest Monster games and Monster Hunter clones and first person dungeon crawlers, then you'll get things that often never escape the moon language years earlier.

[Ed Oscuro]

The yen / dollar exchange (and the yen / eur rates) have changed so much in the last few months, let alone the last 10 years, that Nintendo probably would go with a region lock for the sake of pricing and supply control. Besides, with region locking they get to sell consoles twice to some enthusiasts. Don't know how sophisticated their exchange hedging strategy is though.

[BryanM]

kukuku

It's funny, all these guys alt F4ing every single day for this thing. I don't blame them - a random reward schedule is the most effective sort of conditioning.

If you happen to be one of these poor rats pulling a lever for their food pellet, I'll try and help: Nintendo doesn't want to tank Wii U sales even more than they already have. The earliest they'll announce anything is the later half of October. Wouldn't be surprised if it came after Christmas, or on Christmas eve. The month they need to sale as many of the last Wii U's they'll ever sale as possible.

[EmperorIng]

I'm not even aware that Wii U's are still making sales. I feel bad for my brother who has one. It gets almost no use compared to his PS4 (the nice thing about being an adult with a job I guess - multiple consoles!). I mean, I guess better that than the Xbone, which to my knowledge has no games.

Pretty glad I decided on a PC Engine to ride this gen out, all things considered. Hoping the NX will convince me, inasmuch as I was hostilely indifferent to the Wii U from the beginning.

[iconoclast]

The Wii U may be an underpowered, badly thought out console, but it has a great library. Solely looking at exclusives, it's not an exaggeration to say that it easily beats the PS4 and Xbox One combined.

[Shelcoof]

The Wii U may be an underpowered, badly thought out console, but it has a great library. Solely looking at exclusives, it's not an exaggeration to say that it easily beats the PS4 and Xbox One combined.

Agree that the system is under powered and badly thought out but I disagree with it having great library. Decent maybe?

[iconoclast]

Relatively speaking, I mean. It has a tiny library in comparison to something like the 360 or PS2, but it has probably 10+ great games at this point, and they're all exclusive. It's a nice console to have on the side.

[Shelcoof]

Relatively speaking, I mean. It has a tiny library in comparison to something like the 360 or PS2, but it has probably 10+ great games at this point, and they're all exclusive. It's a nice console to have on the side.

I dunno I've actually been very disappointed with the library of the Wii U. I've never expected much from third parties but was expecting a few more titles from Nintendo such as Metriod, F-Zero, Wave Race just to name a few.

I have to give them credit for Super 3D World though and Smash 4 is worth owning a Wii U alone.

[Obiwanshinobi]

The story with Nintendo kids growing out of Nintendo seems to be: they avoid playing the good games on Nintendo consoles because they fear to find those are not even made by Nintendo.

[BryanM]

It really doesn't matter how many times you slap a new coat of paint on something; what's basically a remake of something that was already on the Nintendo 64, is going to get old eventually. Unless you're a HUGE enthusiast or a fungus.

I have particular horror/respect for those who're still into Pokemon games.

is going to get old eventually

It's pretty common to see threads of guys going "anyone else not finding video games fun anymore?" Of course as a new person everything is new and exciting - you're not going to get the same emotional payout you got playing your favorite game for the first time when you're an old jaded person and everything is old.

I general tell these guys to just do something else to occupy your brain for a few months or years.

same emotional payout you got playing a favorite game for the first time

Dangun Feveron is pretty special ain't it? My general first impressions:

> Hey the color palette is very Genesis.

> So much space. Every stage. Space space space. I know it's trying to be retro, but c'mon. Galaga doesn't even have this much space in it.

> Dafuq.

> Seems pretty average.