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I love this movie too much to see discussions of it buried in the general movies thread, and this forum really needs a topic to counterbalance all the negativity lately, so I'm giving my full review in its own thread so all who love this movie can gather and discuss its awesomeness.

I have become… unhealthily obsessed with this movie ever since it came out on Netflix Instant. Many many movies both mainstream and indie have come out in recent years seeking to capitalize on my childhood. From Transformers, to Moonbeam City, to Kung Fury. But while they may have captured the fashions or the little details, none of them have captured the heart, save for Turbo Kid. Some movies remind me of childhood, Turbo Kid carries me back into my childhood on the hooves of a Lisa Frank unicorn.

The film takes place in a post-nuclear-apocalypse 1997. The world lives a Mad Max ramshackle existence where untainted drinking water is rare and gangs of mutant cyborgs roam the wastelands on BMX bikes. Our protagonist is the kid (Munro Chambers), a teenaged orphan who lives as a scavenger, selling 80s pop culture paraphernalia for potable water and living in his secret poster and pink-flamingo decorated bomb shelter home/clubhouse. His hero is local cowboy badass Fredrick the Armwrestler (Aaron Jeffery) and his chief hobby is reading wartime comic books about the superhero Turbo Rider. Life stinks, but he’s got a comfortable niche until one day at the playground while reading his comic he bumps into a beautiful and unnaturally perky girl named Apple (Laurence Leboeuf). No relation to Shia, I believe.

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Apple steals the show in this movie. Without delving into spoiler territory, she’s both a sendup and a subversion of the “Manic Pixie Dreamgirl” trope because for all her happiness, it’s clear she’s not entirely right in the head. And most subversive to the MPD stereotype, she has an actual character arc!

Apple so aggressively wants to be the kid’s friend that he reluctantly lets her tag along on his next scavenging run. As much as he tries to keep her at arm’s length in this depressing future, her relentless playfulness and positivity prove infectious and he warms to her. But just as they’re really starting to connect, a cyborg bounty hunter captures Apple and begins chasing the kid. The kid manages to escape by stumbling into the buried spaceship of the real life Turbo Rider, now deceased, and he recovers the super suit, complete with a ridiculously overpowered laser-blasting turbo glove (albeit with a very unreliable ammo supply).

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Armed with his new super powers, the kid decides to stop hiding and rescue Apple from the local warlord Zeus (a very hammy Michael Ironside) who forces captives to fight to the death in an empty swimming pool, then juices their corpses for reclaimed water. A special shout out is required for Zeus’ buzzsaw-shooting chief henchman Skeletron (Edwin Wright) whose performance is entirely wordless and delivered from behind a mask, but whose bug-eyed and twitchy physicality makes for a memorable character. The major way this movie deviates from the sci fi coming of age adventures of my youth is the battles that commence between the kid and Zeus are gory beyond shock and intentionally enter the realm of hilarious.

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Turbo kid first started out as a short film “T is for Turbo” submitted to the ABCs of death competition by the movie’s hive-minded French-Canadian trio of directors (RKSS). The slapstick gore and pitch-perfect 80s music (Le Matos) was so impressive, people approached the directors about making a feature length version. That Turbo Kid recreated and expanded on the gory laffs was expected, but it’s amazing that the movie managed to have so much heart at the same time.

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Most nostalgia films tend to look and feel like a modern CGI-excess production, elbow you in the ribs every time they drop a reference so you don’t miss it, and have a nasty undercurrent of contempt for their subject matter. Kung Fury, I’m looking at you. Turbo Kid is almost completely 80s-style practical effects, right down to the Ghostbusters storm clouds made by squirting milk into salt water, is perfectly functional as a film in its own right whether or not you notice the references, and communicates such love for 80s adventure movies that every time a predictable trope comes along it’s in a loving, <I>”of course</I> that’s supposed to happen” kind of way.

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Kung Fury is like eating frosting straight from the can. The entire can. Even past the third gulp when it stops being fun. Turbo Kid is like a slice of cake with frosting; yummy and delightful and leaves you wanting more. It’s my favorite film of 2015 and I can’t recommend it highly enough!

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Gong to watch this again this weekend.
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Huh. I've been seeing pictures of this posted around recently, but didn't know what it was. I'll probably watch it tomorrow, sounds really cool.
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I want to talk about the character of Apple, her story arc, and the amazing performance by Laurence Leboeuf. There's not a single review of this movie I've read where they haven't fallen in love with the character and I don't think it's hyperbole to say that without her this would have merely been a top shelf genre spoof instead of a Sundance selection. The script gets the credit for the humor, but Laurence Leboeuf deserves the lion's share of the credit for her portrayal because that character could have very easily been annoying.

Let me also state for the record, because I didn't emphasize it enough in part 1, that without Apple, Turbo Kid would be best remembered for its amazing soundtrack by Le Matos. I like it better than Drive's soundtrack, it's so good.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T OPEN THIS BOX BEFORE WATCHING THE MOVIE. IT'S ON NETFLIX INSTANT AND EVERY OTHER STREAMING SERVICE.
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Turbo Kid at its most basic is a satire of movie tropes and one of the most enduring tropes is the "Manic Pixie Dreamgirl." Essentially the MPD is a beautiful and vivacious woman who inserts herself into the life of a depressed shut-in man and through sheer force of personality brings him out of his shell. There are many criticisms of the trope, like the fact that the MPD never goes through any character growth of her own, but the most damning is the question, "why is this amazing woman throwing herself at this boring mess of a man?

Turbo Kid's answer with Manic Pixie Dreamgirl Apple is simple: she chases the kid because she's a robot and that's what she's programmed to do! But like Alien, her being a robot not only excuses the plot device, it deepens the story. The directors get to have their cake and eat it too because once she succeeds at her MPD purpose by bringing the kid out of his shell they get to shift gears and have her go through two additional arcs: a love story and a pinocchio story. It also doesn't hurt that Laurence Leboeuf already looks like an impossibly perfect android in real life:

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When you watch the movie for a second time knowing she's a robot, you'll catch that there's a real forced undercurrent to her friendliness toward the kid at the beginning, like she's just following her programming. If the kid suddenly died she'd probably shrug off his death the same way she did her last best friend.

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But over the course of the movie, especially after the pool party, Leboeuf's performance visibly shifts from less manic to warmer and more vulnerable as she starts falling for the kid for real. It's kind of heartbreaking after he finds out she's a robot and is initially repulsed when she later says with shyness, "no one wants to remind a human that his best friend is a robot." That vulnerability makes the kid more likable for sticking with her, and at the end when they finally have their kiss under the gore-soaked umbrella it feels earned unlike most manic pixie dreamgirl stories.

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The final arc is a pinocchio story. The first time I watched Turbo Kid I was incredibly let down when Apple died, in part because all my attention was on the kid's story and he'd been fighting this whole movie to save her. But the second time I watched it was still sad, but with more of my attention on her character this time I could see that it was the logical conclusion of her story.

During the playground scene, if you pause while the kid is reading his comic book, there's a panel he doesn't read aloud where Turbo Rider says, "Killing robots is not murder because they have no souls!" (I did say my fixation on this movie was unhealthy!) You could argue that's true of Apple at the start of the story when she's talking to the body of her last best friend and later shows zero remorse for his passing. Even when she's standing in the pool waiting to be murdered, she starts innocently cheering for Zeus along with the crowd like she's programmed to do.

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This all changes after she gets shot and the kid makes her realize her own mortality. While she denies that anything's wrong with her and remains playful and positive, she becomes visibly less smiley and more thoughtful. What's more, she starts making moral decisions on her own, defying her programming when she tells Skeletron she doesn't like him and castigating Zeus later on. As the kid explained, the stars in the sky are souls. When Apple finishes the transition from a robot who snaps the friendship bracelet off the mummified corpse of her last best friend and slaps in onto the wrist of the first passerby into someone willing to sacrifice her life for the one she loves, she finishes the journey into developing her own soul and is able to become a star after she dies.

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Wow did I just realize what a silly effort it was doing a character analysis for such a wacky movie. Oh well, it brought me back to my childhood, can you blame me for having a puppydog crush on the love interest?

I also love how on-the-nose the lyrics are for Apple's song:

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I didn't really like Apple.... I thought the movie was fun in it's way but that was about it.
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Strider77 wrote:I didn't really like Apple.... I thought the movie was fun in it's way but that was about it.
Mind if I ask your age?
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Truth be told I did probably oversell Apple because I have developed a huge crush on Laurence Leboeuf thanks to this movie.
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This thread reminds me that i have to see this again. It's just great!
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I had a real life stalker that was exacly like Apple. But I still enjoy the movie mostly for the villains.
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I'm 39.
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Strider77 wrote:I'm 39.
Huh. I thought it would have been a generational thing.

Well do you at least agree that Turbo Kid is superior to Kung Fury?
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I enjoyed the movie okay, I just wasn't super crazy for it. It may have been my mood at the time also, I know I got interrupted a few times watching it.
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Mischief Maker wrote: Well do you at least agree that Turbo Kid is superior to Kung Fury?
Kung Fury is a literal joke. Turbo Kid has heart.
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Laurence Leboeuf is from around here, and no, absolutely nothing to do with Shia! :wink:

If you like her, there are clips of her other stuff around, mostly in French though.

I'll look into Turbo Kid - curiosity piqued.

Had a good chuckle out of Kung Fury.
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I just found out that RKSS did a crowdfunding campaign to create a bunch of Turbo Kid swag to promote the movie and it included a comic book prequel about the character of Apple. Written by the writer-director trio behind the movie! I found the comic online for a measly $2 and snatched it up this morning!

* I'm gonna spoil the movie to discuss the comic so for the love of God go stream the movie off Netflix before you read any further. *
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And... ugh... this is the first thing Turbo Kid-related that really disappointed me. I am now giving even more credit to actress Laurence Leboeuf for the success of the character in the movie because she is annoying in the most anime way possible in this comic book. I guess she's supposed to be annoying at this point because it was her relationship with The Kid that makes her grow warmer and more human over the course of the movie. But if that's the case, find a different time and subject matter to write your comic about!

I wanted a prequel story about Apple! I wanted to learn more about the world where she was manufactured, see the nuclear apocalypse through her eyes, see the other side of the wasteland where she came from. You get none of that in this comic. It starts with her last best friend the water hunter dying, then follows her carrying his rotting corpse around the wasteland looking for a new friend, and ends with her inadvertantly causing a three-way war between a gang of cannibals, a gang of mutants, and a killer robot. That sounds cooler in concept than it is in execution.

Truth be told this comic reminded me of that line in the Redlettermedia Star Wars prequel reviews where Mr. Plinkett says he doesn't think George Lucas even understands Star Wars. Same thing here with RKSS. This comic reads like fanfiction. In the movie there's a great little joke where they shelter for the night in a ruined video rental shop and The Kid uses the old VHS tapes as kindling for a fire. In the comic one of the first thing Apple does in the middle of an empty desert is start a fire, and she uses a bunch of VHS tapes she just happened to have on her. In the movie Apple ends up with her ridiculous Gnome Stick because the Kid is cobbling together a weapon from whatever junk he could find in an abandoned landscaping truck. In the comic Apple finds another silly stick weapon (with a unicorn head) just sitting around. In the movie, Apple may be relentlessly positive, but she's not oblivious to the dangers around her and as she bonds with The Kid and comes to terms with her own mortality she grows as a character. Apple in this comic is a completely oblivious character with zero story arc, running from one dangerous lunatic to another asking them all to be friends. It's bizarre that a character I assume was meant to be a satire of the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl trope ends up exemplifying that trope at its worst in the comic.

But on a more basic level, the movie is grounded in Munro Chamber's performance as The Kid and his chemistry with Laurence Leboeuf. He's pretty much the only sane person in the wasteland and acts as a straight man for all the nutty personalities that surround him, especially Apple. Part of the reason I consider Turbo Kid to be superior to Scott Pilgrim is Michael Cera's performance was every bit as goofy as the surrounding cast and that movie had no emotional center. Witness the Scott Pilgrim DVD where you can choose which of the two female love interests he stays with in the end and switching between them has negligible effect on the story. This Turbo Kid comic is kinda like that, goofy Apple bouncing off equally goofy wasteland gangs and it all adds up to a big "so what?" The Kid's slow change from being annoyed by Apple, to liking her, to loving her guides the audience's feelings about her, too. There's a part in the movie where Apple pops a random tube of confetti and we get an overhead reaction shot of her gaping in wonder. That shot is earned because the kid loves her at this point and knows she's dying and what a beautiful moment in this character's remaining moments. In the comic there's a part where Apple explodes a crow with her unicorn stick after it started eating her dead friend's eyes and they copy that shot using the crow's falling feathers... but it means nothing because all she's been doing the entire comic at this point is playing schoolyard games next to a decaying corpse. The panel wasn't earned.

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Listening to the Turbo Kid commentary, I get the feeling RKSS was unexpectedly fortunate in the same way a young Steven Spielberg was fortunate when filming Jaws. In Jaws, the shark puppet almost never worked, so the director was forced to make do with much more effective shots that implied the presence of the shark, and to fill time he filmed Quint's speech about the Indianapolis, which ended up being one of the emotional centerpoints of the resulting film. In Turbo Kid, RKSS was planning to do goofball gore from the very beginning, but due to unseasonably cold weather and budget shortages they had to cut most of the early gore scenes and save it all for the finale. I think this worked to the movie's favor because the slow ramping up of the violence allowed the scenes to breathe when The Kid and Apple are falling for each other. This growing connection between the audience and the characters earns the ending where The Kid unleashes Riki-Oh levels of retribution on Zeus and his cannibals for killing Apple. You pump your fist when The Kid finally blasts Zeus in the face with his Turbo Glove. Compare this to the comic where Apple overcomes the odds to defeat a gigantic killbot and save a group of mutants she developed zero connection with, and it all adds up to a "well that happened" shrug.
So in conclusion, the movie Turbo Kid is still my favorite of 2015, but I would skip the comic entirely or at least treat it as non-canon. It has tempered my excitement over hints RKSS has dropped about a sequel. And if they can't cast Laurence Leboeuf and Munro Chambers again in part 2, I may skip it entirely.
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Great flick
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Like most, I thought the soundtrack to this movie was top class
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Le Matos: "No Tomorrow - A Turbo Kid Tale"

A new Turbo Kid prequel short/music video with Laurence Leboeuf reprising her role as Apple.

If you haven't watched the movie yet, this video WILL spoil things.
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Turbo Kid 2 has been announced! Yaaay!

In retrospect I was way too hard on the comic. I guess I'm just not a comic book reader.

Because all the jokes that were clunker duds for me in panel form were hilarious in the music video with Leboeuf's performance and RKSS' cinematography.
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I just ordered it myself and I am trying to get a mate of mine to watch with me around Halloween. He really enjoyed watching Deathgasm earlier this year too which I can recommend to you 30+ folks :)
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