GamerGate - and it's continuing aftermath.

A place where you can chat about anything that isn't to do with games!
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: The GamerGate Thread

Post by evil_ash_xero »

Squire Grooktook wrote:
Durandal wrote:snip
Well, I can't deny that you make some valid points. Perhaps I've underestimated the issue.

I will probably do some snooping and see if I can find the full fan-translation in text form. Maybe I'll compare the two as I play, and give some word on how bad/neutral it generally is.

Just out of curiosity, how is the difficulty in the new Fire Emblem games? I'm a bit worried, they might have been watered down.
User avatar
Squire Grooktook
Posts: 5997
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:39 am

Re: The GamerGate Thread

Post by Squire Grooktook »

evil_ash_xero wrote:
Squire Grooktook wrote:
Durandal wrote:snip
Well, I can't deny that you make some valid points. Perhaps I've underestimated the issue.

I will probably do some snooping and see if I can find the full fan-translation in text form. Maybe I'll compare the two as I play, and give some word on how bad/neutral it generally is.

Just out of curiosity, how is the difficulty in the new Fire Emblem games? I'm a bit worried, they might have been watered down.
For Fates itself, I'm told by a member here who played the Japanese version of one of them, that it's one of the hardest games in the series yet (partly why I'm looking forward to it).

The previous title, Awakening, depends on how you play it. They've struck a nice balance for casuals by offering a "casual mode" which allows mid-mission saving and excises perma-death, and the usual "classic mode" where all decisions and deaths are final. Beyond that, there's also several difficulties which affect how grueling the stages actually are.

Awakening itself is somewhat unbalanced. Much like in Sacred Stones, there's an overworld map and you have the ability to grind, which allows you to utterly demolish the games difficulty balance if you want, but abstaining from the grind results in a pretty tight and fun campaign with some interesting new mechanics. Those new mechanics are really the root of the balance issues, since they're somewhat rough around the edges due to newness, but they really shine through and create a lot of interesting situations when the chips are down.

The two versions of Fates play completely differently. Nohr (Conquest) plays like Classic FE with a linear progression of missions with no ability to grind. Hoshido (Birthright) plays more like Sacred Stones/Awakening in allowing you an overworld to fight skirmishes in and level up. I'm very happy with this set up. Something for everyone.

Overall, I'm very happy with the franchise and where they've taken it, petting aside. They've added in some interesting new mechanics, while staying true to the intense arcadey gameplay that made it fun to begin with.
Last edited by Squire Grooktook on Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................

Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

Good to know it's not easy. Let us know what you think. It looks like a quality game.


In response to SkyKid's video, with the protesters (I've seen that...it's pretty freaky)..here is a more amusing look at SJWs, in training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI
User avatar
apatheticTurd
Posts: 116
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:12 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by apatheticTurd »

Irrespective of how you feel about the culturez warz between stupid people on twitter and the merit of localization vs literal translation, Fate's NA english script has some... problems.
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

apatheticTurd wrote:Irrespective of how you feel about the culturez warz between stupid people on twitter and the merit of localization vs literal translation, Fate's NA english script has some... problems.
This was originally a pretty decent conversation.
User avatar
Durandal
Posts: 1536
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:01 pm

Re: GamerGate

Post by Durandal »

apatheticTurd wrote:Irrespective of how you feel about the culturez warz between stupid people on twitter and the merit of localization vs literal translation, Fate's NA english script has some... problems.
I still don't get what Treehouse was going for with this. Was the joke that two socially awkward characters in an awkward situation somehow bonded together in silence because they were socially awkward?
I still don't see how someone in the translation process saw that conversation and decided it would be a brilliant idea to replace it with dots. I do hope that was just something someone glossed over during QA testing.
Xyga wrote:
chum wrote:the thing is that we actually go way back and have known each other on multiple websites, first clashing in a Naruto forum.
Liar. I've known you only from latexmachomen.com and pantysniffers.org forums.
User avatar
Squire Grooktook
Posts: 5997
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:39 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by Squire Grooktook »

I actually find it funny, when viewed in the series context.

The weird thing is, apparently the next convo acts like the original jp convo took place. Seems like something is missing. The guy who uploaded the video even thinks there's a glitch somewhare.
RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................

Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.
User avatar
ACSeraph
Posts: 2727
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:00 am
Location: Tokyo

Re: Pro Gamergate or Anti? Let it out there.

Post by ACSeraph »

evil_ash_xero wrote:
Spoiler
Image
Squire Grooktook wrote:I dunno, that's like one jp sentence vs 3 English ones, and even then you're taking their word for it that that translation is accurate or includes all the connotations.
I can confirm that whoever wrote that bit of localization deserves to be punched in the teeth. Japanese games actually have mind numbingly stupid dialogue quite often, but this is not one of those cases. I'd stab myself in the ear with my stylus if that was voice acted.
<STG.1cc> 死ぬがよい <ACT.1cc>
Image
User avatar
Skykid
Posts: 17655
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:16 pm
Location: Planet Dust Asia

Re: Pro Gamergate or Anti? Let it out there.

Post by Skykid »

ACSeraph wrote:
I can confirm that whoever wrote that bit of localization deserves to be punched in the teeth. Japanese games actually have mind numbingly stupid dialogue quite often, but this is not one of those cases. I'd stab myself in the ear with my stylus if that was voice acted.
Agreed. It's super-dupity atrociously American too. About as localised as you can get.
Always outnumbered, never outgunned - No zuo no die

User avatar
Squire Grooktook
Posts: 5997
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:39 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by Squire Grooktook »

I talked to someone who read through the translated script, and finished the game, and apparently the translation is mostly good. Boneheaded changes like that are apparently relatively rare, and most of it is true to the original. I'll still attempt to read both as I play-though to see for myself, however.
RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................

Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.
User avatar
Sly Cherry Chunks
Posts: 1975
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:40 pm
Location: Colin's Bargain Basement. Everything must go.

Re: GamerGate

Post by Sly Cherry Chunks »

SyFy are running an 'internet ruined my life' series featuring featuring dramatisations of the Suey Park and Brianna Wu stories:

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
The biggest unanswered question is where is the money? [1CCS]
User avatar
Giest118
Posts: 1042
Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 1:50 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by Giest118 »

Sly Cherry Chunks wrote:SyFy are running an 'internet ruined my life' series featuring featuring dramatisations of the Suey Park and Brianna Wu stories:
The... science-FICTION channel?

Fitting.
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

I saw Suey's story. It was gripping.
User avatar
Durandal
Posts: 1536
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:01 pm

Re: GamerGate

Post by Durandal »

holy shit, it amazes me how people can take such old copypastas seriously
if memes are enough to make a person suffer a [DRAMATIZED]nervous breakdown[/DRAMATIZED] and get a feelbad episode about it on TV, one has to wonder what further idiocy the future holds in store for us
Xyga wrote:
chum wrote:the thing is that we actually go way back and have known each other on multiple websites, first clashing in a Naruto forum.
Liar. I've known you only from latexmachomen.com and pantysniffers.org forums.
User avatar
BIL
Posts: 20286
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 12:39 pm
Location: COLONY

Re: GamerGate

Post by BIL »

What I want to know is when John Walker Flynt will get his due. That hussy Brianna Wu stole all his original feminist characters for her space bulimia kusog... I mean, indie game sensation designed by females for females! Phantasy Star? Bare Knuckle II? Get that brutish inconsiderate filth out of here! :O

I'm still unhappy though. Now John's been labeled a pervy, talentless, over-privileged nutter with a history of con-artistry and blowing other people's money on godawful dead-end fanfiction... while Brianna gets all the pity cash! :O

Although, USMC vet and Deagle Nation founder Jace Connors did totally assassinate Brianna's dog with his dreaded parkour airsoft tactics. So, it is not like she is undeserving of some compensation. It cannot be easy, living in perpetual fear of being challenged to a street race by Commander Stryker.
User avatar
Obiwanshinobi
Posts: 7470
Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:14 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by Obiwanshinobi »

I'm not following the thread, so forgive me if already dropped here, but this is one article I just gladly read.
The rear gate is closed down
The way out is cut off

Image
User avatar
Durandal
Posts: 1536
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:01 pm

Re: GamerGate

Post by Durandal »

https://medium.com/@markankucic/what-i- ... .ob5000yez
I could have been rolling in cash if I knew taking advantage of everyone's good faith/submission towards women and preaching towards the choir by pulling shit out of your ass with minimal effort was that easy
Xyga wrote:
chum wrote:the thing is that we actually go way back and have known each other on multiple websites, first clashing in a Naruto forum.
Liar. I've known you only from latexmachomen.com and pantysniffers.org forums.
User avatar
Squire Grooktook
Posts: 5997
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:39 am

Re: GamerGate

Post by Squire Grooktook »

Without watching that video (skimmed over it a bit) I've been playing the game lately and it's mostly fine.

The handful of images floating around of changes are like...the full extent of the changes, from what I can tell. 95% of the script feels accurate and faithful.

If you were thinking of hacking your 3ds in order to get the fan translation, I'd personally say don't bother. Just play the western version and read the script online for the small number of things that were changed (if they even matter that much to you, I don't really care about all the side characters).

*edit* errr this was a response to a link Evil Ash Xero posted, but he deleted his post for some reason.
RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................

Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.
User avatar
Opus131
Posts: 619
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:18 pm

Re: GamerGate

Post by Opus131 »

Just thought i'd post this one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLtrBIBDnA

Can anybody say irony?
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

Life lessons.

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

Opus131 wrote:Just thought i'd post this one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLtrBIBDnA

Can anybody say irony?
I watched that. It's surreal. :lol:

Also, feminists, always showing how much class they have...poured urine, on Lauren Southern.

https://youtu.be/PSsk_k7MBpw

Also, a student was doxed, for supporting Milo. https://archive.is/YPknE

Now, my question is this: How come you will barely hear ANYTHING about this shit? And GG, and like-minded people, will get blamed for shit they don't even do. Here you have people getting doxed, and getting pissed poured on them, by SJWs.
If someone in GG, poured piss on someone...a woman even...can you imagine the carnage? Oh, the double standards...

You have to look really hard, to find any legitimate harassment, and even then it's a bit questionable (does anyone really trust Wu?).

Also, this is gold. https://i.imgur.com/oxfmEKU.gifv
User avatar
Sly Cherry Chunks
Posts: 1975
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:40 pm
Location: Colin's Bargain Basement. Everything must go.

Re: GamerGate

Post by Sly Cherry Chunks »

evil_ash_xero wrote:
Opus131 wrote:Just thought i'd post this one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLtrBIBDnA

Can anybody say irony?
I watched that. It's surreal. :lol:

Also, feminists, always showing how much class they have...poured urine, on Lauren Southern.

https://youtu.be/PSsk_k7MBpw
SJWs will defend this. In fairness though, theres no real reason to think it's piss. It is assault however - and that's far more than GG's supposed targets have ever suffered.

Also, Lauren Southern a cute <3
The biggest unanswered question is where is the money? [1CCS]
User avatar
jonny5
Posts: 5081
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:48 pm
Location: toronto

Re: GamerGate

Post by jonny5 »

I identify as an attack helicopter... :lol:

She destroyed those chicks in that video. Great stuff. The video I saw, at the end she said it was piss.

Now the real question is what am I doing in this thread?

/backs slowly towards the door and quietly closes it on the way out
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

jonny5 wrote:
Now the real question is what am I doing in this thread?

Morbid curiosity? :lol:
User avatar
BIL
Posts: 20286
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 12:39 pm
Location: COLONY

Re: GamerGate

Post by BIL »

evil_ash_xero wrote:Also, feminists, always showing how much class they have...poured urine, on Lauren Southern.

https://youtu.be/PSsk_k7MBpw
Surprised it wasn't something worse, tbh. The more histrionic of these people appear to be operating on the level of literal mental retards re: "threat" and response.
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

Yeah, SJWs aren't a problem, in the gaming industry. Nah..I need to take my tinfoil hat off.

Image


"White Fragility"? You know, why do so many SJWs absolutely hate themselves, for their race? I mean, damn. Seems really unhealthy.
User avatar
evil_ash_xero
Posts: 6245
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Where the fish lives

Re: GamerGate

Post by evil_ash_xero »

removed for being fakey fake
Last edited by evil_ash_xero on Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Bananamatic
Posts: 3530
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:21 pm

Re: GamerGate

Post by Bananamatic »

that one's fake tbh
User avatar
Sly Cherry Chunks
Posts: 1975
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:40 pm
Location: Colin's Bargain Basement. Everything must go.

Re: GamerGate

Post by Sly Cherry Chunks »

The biggest unanswered question is where is the money? [1CCS]
User avatar
BIL
Posts: 20286
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 12:39 pm
Location: COLONY

Re: GamerGate

Post by BIL »

Nothing involving the sight of John W. Flynt's gurning dead skin mask of a mug can be called "lighter." D:
Post Reply