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Anyone know a good available PS2 to PS3 controller adapter that works with the latest firmware. I know sony killed a bunch of these with updates. I'm guessing that's why so many are available for $2.
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antron wrote:Anyone know a good available PS2 to PS3 controller adapter that works with the latest firmware. I know sony killed a bunch of these with updates. I'm guessing that's why so many are available for $2.
Watch out for input lag. With my EMS DualShock 2 to USB adapter, I got pretty bad lag on my PS3.
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Thanks. The only brand name I'm seeing available is the mayflash universal.

Added: but two different models: w/wo xbone
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Is this cheap Chinese S-video cable going to correctly output S-video? Anyone know? It looks identical to the ones U.S. sellers are putting up for $20.
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Are there any 16:9 CRTs that are multisync and can accept 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i/240p (last one not really necessary due to me having a BVM) perfectly? I recently replaced my 1080p LED with a Dell CRT made in December 2000 for my computer and it's so much better. I want to replace our crappy Insignia in the living room with something great to play my HD consoles on. Even better if it has an HDMI port so I can play my PS4 on it without any digital-to-analog adapters (that would obviously cause input lag due to it having to first get the whole frame before sending it out line-by-line)

P.S. Are there PS3 VGA cables so I can play 720p PS3 games on my aforementioned Dell CRT for now?

Also, the PC CRT model number is Dell E1771p if anyone's wondering.
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Most HD CRT TVs were limited to 1080i, since that is what's used for broadcast TV.

If you want analogue 720p from your PS3 you're better off using HDMI to VGA, since the HDMI output is quite a bit sharper than the component output. Cables with built in analogue transcoders would use component as their source instead.
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Fudoh wrote:Most HD CRT TVs were limited to 1080i, since that is what's used for broadcast TV.
I already knew that. Most HD CRTs were limited to that. That doesn't mean there aren't any capable of the resolutions I mentioned. Also, they should be NTSC due to me living in the US. Also, if it can't support 1080p, that's fine with me. I just need it to support at least 1080i, 720p, and 480p (and maybe not even 480p if I can get a great multisync BVM/PVM. I just need it for 6th gen games excluding Dreamcast because I would just hook that into my Dell because it's VGA.)
Fudoh wrote:If you want analogue 720p from your PS3 you're better off using HDMI to VGA, since the HDMI output is quite a bit sharper than the component output. Cables with built in analogue transcoders would use component as their source instead.
Doesn't HDMI to VGA have lag since it's digital to analog?

Also, is there a good way to adjust the convergence on a PC CRT? I adjusted the convergence on some consumer Trinitrons with horrible convergence by opening them up and adjusting the magnetic rings and I didn't make it worse, but I couldn't make it better overall; whenever I fixed one area of the screen, I made another part worse. Do I have to do the same with PC monitors? My PC monitor's convergence issues are pretty minor and only on some parts of the screen, though, so I could just live with it.

I really want an HD CRT so none of the electronic setups at home (except for my parents' computer, but I don't use it) are LED anymore. Ever since seeing a CRT again for the first time in 5 years, I can't stand looking at LED screens due to their bad colors, native resolutions, and input lag. Of course, this may be worse due to the HDTV in our house being an Insignia, which I hear are low quality.
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Doesn't HDMI to VGA have lag since it's digital to analog?
if there's no resolution/refresh conversion going on, then you don't need a buffer. And no buffer means no lag.
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atheistgod1999 wrote:Doesn't HDMI to VGA have lag since it's digital to analog?
If that were the case then every console prior to ~2006 would inherently have lag from its analog output. Everything is digital internally and then converted to analog.

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Anyone have a konami hissatsu command controller, and know how the extra buttons work?

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This is the closest I can find to a manual: http://gontarou.nabebugyou.com/c_controller.html but it looks like something has gone wrong with the formatting on the website.

And there's a photo here: http://www.kultboy.com/joystick/206/

From what I can tell the pressing 'Real Time' button then selecting one of buttons 1-5 allows you to then input a series of buttons, press 'Real Time' again then that number button is programmed, simples.
The 'Special' button seems to just cancel a long 'Real Time' sequence.
But the 'Program' button seems to only allow one button/ combination of buttons to be programmed, so its not the same as 'Real Time', I thought this would be autofire/ turbo kind of thing, but if it is I cannot work it out.
Also not sure why number 1 is pink and 2-5 are light blue.
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What's roughly the conversion between TV lines and maximum resolvable horizontal resolution?
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depends on your screen format.

x 1.33 - 10% is a good approximation for 4:3 screens and x 1.78 - 10% for 16:9 screens.
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So going by that formula you'd need a 600 TVL monitor to even come close to resolving a 720 horizontal res?
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that's about right. Standard TV tubes with only 400 TVL have never been able to resolve a full D1 signal.
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I never thought I'll come here asking a question relating to my job but here we go.. My job is related to video/audio streaming in relation to conference systems used in council chambers. I just program solutions in C++ but sometimes I get nominated to solve someone genius idea to hook 6 different video processing devices that are all randomly picked and I have to fix the mess that gets output in the end before it reaches the capture device. Basically I need to find the best way to convert a VGA signal of a PC to composite that will then be fed into a Elgato Capture Device ( those cheap white ones ). The material in question is slide presentations so retaining the best quality is vital. So far the cheap VGA to Composite boxes and the Startech one(VGA2VID) have been tried with not great results: squished image, too much overscan and/or too much noise. The Elgato takes composite at 720x576 so is it possible that setting that resolution in Windows on the PC will help ? I was thinking of going the Soft15Khz route and converting the output to Scart too, but that gets kinda tricky and messy.. I haven't looked at the graphics card in detail but I doubt its one that can natively output composite or s-video either :x
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Composite, uhh?

If all your content is static graphics, why bother with converting to composite at all, when you digitize is afterwards anway?

If you have to go composite, get ex-broadcast scan converters. Extron VSC series. Really cheap these days. You can choose PAL output on these, so you get 576i50.

Key to good quality is the deinterlacing on the other end though. I assume your cheap capture devices just throw out half the resolution anyway and just interpolate the remaining field up to 576p(25).
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Fudoh wrote:that's about right. Standard TV tubes with only 400 TVL have never been able to resolve a full D1 signal.
Wait, so back when our main TV was a CRT, I wasn't seeing the whole horizontal resolution of my Gamecube and later Wii games?
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He was refering to 720p HD signals.

Godspeed Werk91. Sounds like a decent PC could handle a purely software based recording so there shouldn't be a need for a capture device solution at all. Assuming you just want to record the footage, not stream it somewhere via cable.
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He was refering to 720p HD signals.
no, I wasn't. D1 as in 720x480i.
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Oh yikes. Sorry for that. :|
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Fudoh wrote:Composite, uhh?

If all your content is static graphics, why bother with converting to composite at all, when you digitize is afterwards anway?

If you have to go composite, get ex-broadcast scan converters. Extron VSC series. Really cheap these days. You can choose PAL output on these, so you get 576i50.

Key to good quality is the deinterlacing on the other end though. I assume your cheap capture devices just throw out half the resolution anyway and just interpolate the remaining field up to 576p(25).
Unfortunately the setup is much more complicated and I didn't wanted to bother anyone with it but there's three PTZ cameras mixed in there as well as some wall displays and overlay devices... Its all very unnecessary we find but we can't meddle with the council's AV setup too much. All we need is the output they're feeding the Elgato Capture Device to not look quite so atrociously bad. They don't care somehow but its really bad image for my company as its something we aim to use as reference in the future. What happens after the Elgato takes the signal I am not quite sure but I do know we stream out at 360x480 (We're slowly moving to HD streaming and cameras but its very slow).
Using DirectShow and writing our streaming library is my colleague's job :)

The Extron VSC 700 looks perfect for the job so thanks a lot Fudoh!
ryu wrote: Godspeed Werk91. Sounds like a decent PC could handle a purely software based recording so there shouldn't be a need for a capture device solution at all. Assuming you just want to record the footage, not stream it somewhere via cable.
Thanks ryu! Unfortunately streaming it somewhere else via cable is exactly what's required here.

I will be sending a link to that Extron to our client and fingers crossed it fixes the image.
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Is it worth even considering repairing a bad Super Famicom AC adapter?

System runs fine with a spare Genesis adapter. I'd hate to toss it since it's original hardware, but I suspect it's just not worth the hassle.
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Prolly just needs new caps, easy if you have the right equipment.
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Fudoh, I know a few pages back you talked about cheap HDMI/DVI-D to VGA converters that performed almost as good as the HDFury ones. And I wanted to make sure I was looking at the right stuff online.



So would something like this work? : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Startech-com-6-F ... SwX~dWnXsO
It's form factor is interesting since it won't require extra cables.

Or this one? : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LinkS-DVI-D-to-V ... Swv0tVfSeB
It's especially cheap.



Both of these mention the term "active". Is this a term I need to look for in my searches?


The use I'll make out of this is to plug my dvd player (wich will deinterlace 480i dvds and spit out a 480p picture) to my RGB monitor. I will also route the Blu-Ray player's 1080p output to the same monitor.
So the DVI-D/HDMI-to-VGA converter needs to handle 480p and 1080p.
I'm not sure if the dvd player, an Oppo OPDV971H with a DVI-D output, will be sending a full range RGB signal or not. Do I need to figure this out first (AKA: will this dictate the kind of converter I will need?)
I'm asking this because most of the converter I've checked stated that they would only function with full range RGB signals.

Here's my dvd player's manual :
https://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h/do ... Manual.pdf
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Quality on most of these converters will be fine. Of course there's no way to give a 100% guarantee on all of them, but there's a good chance that most of them use the same D/A conversion IC anyway.

The converter won't be able to tell if you feed a limited or full range RGB signal. A limited range RGB signal will result in a brightness offset which you can easily adjust on the your monitor.

Your problem might be the HDCP decryption though. The Oppo's DVI output is encrypted and there's a good chance that the DVI to VGA converters don't have HDCP decryption capabilities (simply since DVI doesn't require it), so be be the safe side, I would pick a HDMI to VGA converter instead and use it with a matching adapter cable or adapter plug.
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Awesome info, thanks!
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What's the best DVD player? I hear PS2 isn't that good. What makes the good ones good, besides them being able to read scratched discs well? Also, it has to be NTSC and have RGB out.
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atheistgod1999 wrote:What's the best DVD player? I hear PS2 isn't that good. What makes the good ones good, besides them being able to read scratched discs well? Also, it has to be NTSC and have RGB out.
Anything from Oppo. I don't know if it has RGB though.
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If you already has a PS3, that plays DVDs and has RGB output.
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European players had RGB, American players had component.

What player suits you best totally depends on your display. If you want 15khz interlaced video, then you can get any high-end player from 10 or 15 years ago. PQ will be excellent.

If you want 31khz deinterlaced picture (480p) then you want a REALLY good deinterlacer. Players from about 7-8 years ago were top in this regard. Oppo was good and so were Denon and a few others. Ideally you want a ABT processor in the player. Faroudja was 2nd best.

For digital players you would want a deinterlacer ALONG with a good scaler. And you want a HDMI output of course.

NTSC DVD is native YCbCr 480i 4:2:0, so RGB output on a player at least means a color conversion. Component means a D/A conversion. HDMI in 480i is basically the native signal (well 4:2:2 instead of 4:2:0) and is great if you want to use an outboard video processor.

PS2 is a terrible DVD player. PS3 is an ok-ish player for native analogue output. Bad for 480p and higher or digital.
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