Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

I'm amazed they never released a game with a cast full of traps

Galuda kinda fits the bill. You think you're getting one thing, but then suddenly..

[Opus131]

I think you'll find that heteronormativity is a different concept from 2+2=4. How did you not notice that? It's there in the word, even: "hetero", meaning "different".

"Posit" what you will, but anyone with a working intelligence will see the reality for what it is, whether they want to admit it or not.

[BryanM]

Trump has released his first ad and it is a thing of beauty.

Also the Mexican Donald Trump skit is probably necessary educational material for white people. It certainly explained to me why my acquaintances from back in the day seemed to find this fuckwit 0% amusing.

[trap15]

I think you'll find that heteronormativity is a different concept from 2+2=4. How did you not notice that? It's there in the word, even: "hetero", meaning "different".

"Posit" what you will, but anyone with a working intelligence will see the reality for what it is, whether they want to admit it or not.

Are you going to actually explain anything or just say "my opinion is 2+2=4 and yours is 2+2=5"?

[Opus131]

Are you going to ever explain or prove to me that the Holocaust was a bad thing? How about you demonstrate why Beethoven was a greater genius than Britney Spears?

(for the record, the explanation is the in the link i posted).

[Opus131]

Also the Mexican Donald Trump skit is probably necessary educational material for white people.

Yeah, those racist bastards. White people. Bleh, aren't they the worst?

[Rob]

Yeah, those racist bastards. White people. Bleh, aren't they the worst?

I'd say.

[Mischief Maker]

Are you going to ever explain or prove to me that the Holocaust was a bad thing?

Six million people died in the Holocaust.

Nobody died during Caitlyn Jenner's sex reassignment surgery.

How about you demonstrate why Beethoven was a greater genius than Britney Spears?

Beethoven composed his own music.

While still a young Bruce and still trying to force herself to "be a man," Caitlyn Jenner performed one of the manliest accomplishments possible by winning a gold medal in the Olympic Triathlon, and became the standard of real-life manliness in the 70s. Yet despite these manly accomplishments she still had a female brain and finally decided to use the money her manliness earned her to fix this mutation.

Tell me something, oh spiritual one: Is it 2+2=5 for children naturally born with cleft palates to have reconstructive surgery?

[Opus131]

Six million people died in the Holocaust.

And that's bad because?

Nobody died during Caitlyn Jenner's sex reassignment surgery.

The injury is spiritual, of course. I'm sure that's a meaningless statement for anyone who believes human existence to have no meaning, but hey.

Beethoven composed his own music.

And that makes him superior how? Always found it fascinating that self described rationalists have such a great deal of trouble understanding what "proof" means.

Tell me something, oh spiritual one: Is it 2+2=5 for children naturally born with cleft palates to have reconstructive surgery?

The exception that proves there is no rule!

[Xyga]

Six million people died in the Holocaust.

6 million jews. Nobody ever mentions the other 5 million of gipsies, pows, gays, disabled, etc who died along with them.

[Opus131]

The Nazis were just following the precepts of evolution. Can't imagine why anybody thinks what they did was so despicable. Wonder if it has to do with the fact 2+2=4.

[Xyga]

[Mischief Maker]

The Nazis were just following the precepts of evolution. Can't imagine why anybody thinks what they did was so despicable. Wonder if it has to do with the fact 2+2=4.

The theory of evolution has no precepts. It's an observed phenomena. Science is not a religion, it's a fact-checking methodology.

Hitler was influenced by the writings of the Roman Tacitus in his book Germania attempting to anthropologically categorize the Germans to the north:

In [Tacitus'] telling, the Germans possessed “fierce blue eyes, tawny hair, huge bodies.” They prized freedom, scorned luxury and esteemed military courage above all else. They were a people of sturdy values for whom “good laws” were no substitute for “good habits.” In the land of the Germans, Tacitus writes, “nobody laughs off vice; and to corrupt and to be corrupted is not called ‘modern times.’ ” Pointedly, he observed that the Germans were “not tainted by intermarriage with any other nations” but rather existed “as a distinct unadulterated people that resembles only itself.”

Can't imagine why anybody thinks what they did was so despicable.

Because there is a human instinct against killing. The training of soldiers is as much a mental thing as a physical. This instinct stems from the fact that we evolved as social hunter-gatherers and minimizing infighting maximized survival chances by diffusion of risk through sharing of resources.

Your question about Beethoven and Spears asked who was the greater genius. Composing music is an act requiring more knowledge, skill, and creativity than simply performing it, all hallmarks of genius.

[BryanM]

Why are you guys responding to things unworthy of a response?

I know we've got a lot of time to kill, but this is like watching cats spin around in a washing machine.

[Mischief Maker]

Tell me something, oh spiritual one: Is it 2+2=5 for children naturally born with cleft palates to have reconstructive surgery?

The exception that proves there is no rule!

Then where is the line drawn between cleft palate reconstruction surgery and sex-reassignment surgery for the various degrees of hermaphrodites? Specify at what point things become spiritually damaging!

[Xyga]

Why are you guys responding to things unworthy of a response?

Yeah I tried once then just facepalmed, there nothing more we can do. *drops scalpel, removes rubber gloves, checks time*

[Opus131]

Because there is a human instinct against killing. The training of soldiers is as much a mental thing as a physical. This instinct stems from the fact that we evolved as social hunter-gatherers and minimizing infighting maximized survival chances by diffusion of risk through sharing of resources.

Just so!

None of this can be proven of course, but let's ignore that for a moment. Morality is perfectly objective... because of the totally relative and arbitrary whims of evolution.

I assume you must also be a fan of Sam Harris, the guy who got schooled by a Christian fundamentalist (and i don't even like Christian fundamentalists):

http://thinkingmatters.org.nz/2011/04/h ... hty-puppy/

The "heroes" of modernity in full display.

Your question about Beethoven and Spears asked who was the greater genius. Composing music is an act requiring more knowledge, skill, and creativity than simply performing it, all hallmarks of genius.

Yeah, but that's just liek, your opinion, and stuff. Do you understand what proof is at all? Doesn't seem like you do. To wit, notice how you felt the need to try to shift the argument to a point of view you think it is more easily defensible, even though whether Britney Spears wrote her music is completely irrelevant to the point i was making. For let's assume Britney Spears did write her music. So what then, who is the greater genius now? Is the music of Beethoven superior because it is more complex? Who says greatness in music has anything to do with complexity? Is it because his compositions are longer? Why is longer better?

[Mischief Maker]

Why are you guys responding to things unworthy of a response?

I know we've got a lot of time to kill, but this is like watching cats spin around in a washing machine.

Yeah, I guess bringing up the undecided voters in 2004 earlier dredged up a lot of unresolved anger and Opus here was kind enough to volunteer himself as a punching bag. But I guess the argument is getting pretty damn circular.

Fine, I'm out!

[Opus131]

Why are you guys responding to things unworthy of a response?

I know we've got a lot of time to kill, but this is like watching cats spin around in a washing machine.

Yeah, let's go back lambasting all white people as evil racist Donald Trump supporters.

Incidentally, those type of statements is why Donald Trump is popular in the first place. The left has totally jumped the shark and most leftists, confined as they are in their own echo-chambers, still haven't realized it.

[BryanM]

Opus here was kind enough to volunteer himself as a punching bag.

You can take some heart in that we really might be turning a corner here. With the gay marriage ruling and the country heaving a collective "meh, about time" we've almost completely won the culture wars. We've absolutely kicked their shit in on social issues.

Whinny manbabies complaining they don't get to implement their redneck sharia law on us by being really loud and trying to violently annex government buildings? Death rattle of the Reagan revolution. The civil rights act has won the popularity contest finally, huzzah.

Now is the time to pat them on the head, ignore their nonsense, and press the advance on new unresolved issues: "No war but class war." The enemy in this moment is not their agenda to exterminate all life on the planet in a beautiful holocaustic rapture, that comes in November.

The enemy right now is Hilldiggity.

[Lord Satori]

Did you guys really think something like this wasn't going to occur when you started a Donald Trump thread?

[Giest118]

"Posit" what you will, but anyone with a working intelligence will see the reality for what it is, whether they want to admit it or not.

Okay. You're wrong, and you might be smart enough to know you're wrong. But since you're so wrapped up in your pathological narrativism, you'd never admit it, so I have no reason to take your word for it that you ACTUALLY believe a single thing you're saying.

I mean, as long as "whether they want to admit it or not" works as argumentation, it's perfectly reasonable for me to assume that you know IN YOUR HEART that you're lying to yourself any time you disagree with literally anyone about anything.



On a side note, it is awfully convenient for you that the will of the cosmos itself agrees with you that gay people are icky.

[EmperorIng]

BryanM's comments are always amusing in light of BulletMagnet's repeated assertions that if self-proclaimed liberals continue to insult the opposition as culturally, morally, and mentally backward, they will continue their slow slide into irrelevance. The fact that the majority of states in the USA now have Republican state legislatures and governors (not to mention presidential elections with popular votes of roughly 50/50) should give some pause as to -why- that's happening, without relying on George Carlin youtube videos or obnoxious internet personalities.

Though BryanM is astute enough to realize that Obama's disastrous corporatist policies (a solid continuation of GWB) might have something to do with it. I would posit his general incompetence at governing (and the extreme polarization that results from this incompetence) might play a factor as well, but people would call me biased.

Ol' Charles Krauthammer muses how Trump's populist storm has serious echoes of our current commander-in-chief's rise to power. Food for thought!

Yeah, those racist bastards. White people. Bleh, aren't they the worst?

I'd say.

(cough) 'hilarious' cartoons aside, it never ceases to amaze me how liberal pundits shriek when people stupidly lump all black people or Hispanics or etc. into one group, yet do not seem to care when it's directed at "white people."

"White people" wasn't even a thing for most of human history (e.g. early 20th-century U.S. miscegenation laws did not see Italians as "white" - nor did earlier popular culture think the same of the Irish).

[BareKnuckleRoo]

The Nazis were just following the precepts of evolution. Can't imagine why anybody thinks what they did was so despicable.

And so for generations to come, people were left wondering whether the source of such mind-bogglingly idiotic remarks was severe brain trauma or inbreeding.

[BryanM]

BryanM's comments are always amusing in light of BulletMagnet's repeated assertions that if self-proclaimed liberals continue to insult the opposition as culturally, morally, and mentally backward, they will continue their slow slide into irrelevance.

It's true, there's no reason to humor our version of ISIS. We're not even the same species so it's better to ignore them and just advocate our own agenda.

Opus is actually extraordinarily mild which is why I find the offense at his opinions so... cute, I guess? This is what passes for mainstream GOPpers these days:

The culture disgusts them..... not the women. Nordic women are the most beautiful on earth. In ancient times, Arab slave traders would risk life and limb to travel to northern lands to raid villages where there were white women, so that they could bring them back and sell them for high profits.... or keep them in their own harems.

Liberals are a disease.... and parents are to blame. Bad parenting is the only reason why school systems are able to brainwash our impressionable youth into liberal ideas. Utopia's of equality sound great when you're a naive, inexperienced person...... it takes wiser, experienced, older adults to teach our youth not to fall to these stupid ideas.

But parents are failing everywhere. Not just in EU. But also in America. Parents buy their impressionable kids a computer, laptops, tablets, smartphones... and just give them unsupervised internet access. They are exposed to every dumb idea on the internet, every social justice tumblr movement. They are raised by TV shows and movies. By the time they reach 18 yrs old, they have watched more pornography than existed on all of planet earth in the year 1900. They send them to school and let the liberal teachers indoctrinate them. Very little parenting is done, by comparison to what used to be done 200 years ago.

So what we end up with, is a generation of corrupted and lost young people. And these young people grow older. And as a result, we now we have a society that thinks homosexuality is normal, that "gender neutral" is normal...... and soon transgender behavior, and crossdressing, will be normal.

^ This guy isn't an extremist in the least. He's their base. That's what you get when you push progressives out of electoral power and bring in racists. A fraction of the population always decides public policy, and this is what we're left with thanks to the Clintons.

All you can do is give them nothing, kick their shit in until they decide to stay home on election days, aaaand... the likelihood of that happening in time to do anything meaningful against global warming is basically 0%.

We're fucked.

[Opus131]

The Nazis were just following the precepts of evolution. Can't imagine why anybody thinks what they did was so despicable.

And so for generations to come, people were left wondering whether the source of such mind-bogglingly idiotic remarks was severe brain trauma or inbreeding.

I'm still waiting to hear an explanation for why the Holocaust was a "bad" thing from anyone who doesn't believe there's such a thing as a 2+2=4. The only one i got is the one from Mischief Maker, which doesn't actually explain why the Holocaust is bad at all, certainly not in any "objective" sense.

[M.Knight]

a videogame!

Best thing to come out of this thread! I never heard of that game before and after finishing it, I can say I really had a great time with it.
The Phoenix Wright-like mechanics suit the concept of debating over the topic of morality very well and Socrates Jones has all the humor and wit of its inspiration.

That was worth undergoing the endless "2+2=4" nonsense from broken record Opus.

[Mischief Maker]

Trump has released his first ad and it is a thing of beauty.

Also the Mexican Donald Trump skit is probably necessary educational material for white people. It certainly explained to me why my acquaintances from back in the day seemed to find this fuckwit 0% amusing.

Excuse me for missing this post earlier while wrapped up in all the mathematical hijynx!

It is a thing of beauty! Does Trump even have campaign staff? "...until we can figure out what's going on!" I suppose that line got a thumbs up from the same Yes-Man who gives that comb-over the thumbs up every day.

You wanna know why the left thinks Trump supporters are all racists? Because that's the only explanation for his popularity that makes any sense!

a videogame!

Best thing to come out of this thread! I never heard of that game before and after finishing it, I can say I really had a great time with it.
The Phoenix Wright-like mechanics suit the concept of debating over the topic of morality very well and Socrates Jones has all the humor and wit of its inspiration.

That was worth undergoing the endless "2+2=4" nonsense from broken record Opus.

Glad you enjoyed it. I live to spread joy!

[BryanM]

It is a thing of beauty! Does Trump even have campaign staff?

He has a skeleton crew. It's actually a pretty effective strategy, because he seems like an actual human being unlike a Hillary where every single tiny detail is overmanaged and triangulated. His campaign office is awe inspiring.





He's using other people's money to do this thing. SuperPAC? He already has one. It's the one Jeb uses to run 24/7 "Vote for Trump" ads. (I'm not remotely joking. His "Chaos Candidate" campaign ads are not attack ads. Not remotely.)

You don't have to be a superman racist to love how he's showing how awful our politicians are at being politicians.

[Mischief Maker]

Umm... making campaign offices out of shithole office space is not unique to the Trump campaign, I assure you. I remember one day on our daily conference call one of the higher-ups telling us to stop publicly complaining about the leaking sewage pipes in the basement as it may reflect badly on the campaign. This was in the key district of one of the big three swing states in 2004, mind you (Green Bay in Wisconsin).

If you're commenting on the lack of staff, it's fucking Janurary!