Bout sega dreamcast

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:56 am

hi i just recently saw videos of under defeat and i preordered it already without a dreamcast. my question is. im thinking bout buying a american dreamcast. whats the cheapest mod that will allow under defeat to be played on my american system? thx all need help

M0nk3y · Post by **M0nk3y** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:58 am

A boot disk. Either get DC-X, or download Utopia Bootdisk.

Or if you fancy a permanent solution, and you're ok with soldering, go for a modchip. 4 simple wires, and they should be super cheap by now.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:00 am

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... +dreamcast

Read that thread, all your questions answered.

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:00 am

I think you'd have to get a console manufactured before oct 2000 for the boot disk to work.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:05 am

That only applies to Japanese DC's right? Did Sega make any USA DC's after 2000?

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:07 am

Yeah, they did. You can tell by looking at the sticker on the underside of the DC. I don't remember when they stopped. I've seen a few 2001 consoles before.

D · Post by D » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:21 am

I'd like to mention that SEGADIRECT has lowered the price for the Under Defeat/Dreamcast console combo package.
At least that's what I read somewhere. So this might tempt some of us to buy the package, then again shipping will kill our enthousiasm, probably.

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:24 am

cool thx, if its cheap and can pla the latest imports ill get the utopia boot disk. seems simple enough to swap disc, unlike ps2s swap magic.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:26 am

tekneekz wrote:i just recently saw videos of under defeat and i preordered it already without a dreamcast

If you happened to pre-order it from Play-Asia, you can probably send then an email and they can change your pre-order to one of the recently added Sega Direct Under Defeat deals that includes a refurbished JP Dreamcast:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-u-4 ... -17a4.html
or
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-u-4 ... -17a5.html

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:19 am

crazy deal but i think a utopia disc can be sold online for less than 5 bucks and i can get an american dreamcast for like under 50 brand new never opened. im just hoping the utopia disc will be able to play under defeat and older DC shmups since im lpanning to open a new libray for my dc.

dark penguin · Post by **dark penguin** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:42 pm

To confirm--
I have a US Dreamcast from 2001. It plays all backups and imports flawlessly, and is not modded in any way, shape or form.

AAA · Post by **AAA** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:01 pm

Thunder Force wrote:
tekneekz wrote:i just recently saw videos of under defeat and i preordered it already without a dreamcast
If you happened to pre-order it from Play-Asia, you can probably send then an email and they can change your pre-order to one of the recently added Sega Direct Under Defeat deals that includes a refurbished JP Dreamcast:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-u-4 ... -17a4.html
or
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-u-4 ... -17a5.html

not a bad deal there, good spot - cheers mate

haven't checked the shipping yet though

llabnip · Post by **llabnip** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:18 pm

MOSQUITO FIGHTER wrote:I think you'd have to get a console manufactured before oct 2000 for the boot disk to work.

That may be just a myth. I have found two Dreamcasts with a 2001 date on the bottom - both of them booted fine with a bootdisc. I think a couple of people had trouble with some bootdisc and both had 2001 consoles and a conclusion was reached that all 2001 consoles didn't work but that's not true for all 2001 consoles (and it may - and I'm just guessing here - have been bad discs, poor laser that didn't track well on CDRs, etc).

superhitachi4 · Post by **superhitachi4** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:23 pm

For Dreamcast, I know people say to look for a certain date...but that's not always true. Try to get either version 0, or 1. (one that works well of course) There's a small number circled on the bottom of the system which indicates the version. I've had version 2s that read CD-Rs just fine, then again, some have issues. Anyway, as posted above, the cheapest method's the boot disc. It's available for free, so don't pay for one.

Post by **nZero** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:12 pm

llabnip wrote:That may be just a myth.

Not exactly. My DC is a circle 2 version (which I've retrofitted with a version 1 powerboard for reliability, and I'm thinking of tracking down the version 0 heatpipe/fan combo for quieter cooling) manufactured in Dec. 2000 and will not load up bootdiscs, CD-Rs (even burned at 1x on Taiyo Yuden media with a Plextor burner) or unofficial releases. However, it plays even problematic GD-Rs flawlessly. This DC was part of the Sonic bundle, and was purchased new in June 2001.

The thoroughly beat up model 1 version manufactured in Dec. 1999 that I had purchased used to play imports on gave all sorts of trouble with some of my GD-R games (e.g. wouldn't load Rez, or a scratched up Shenmue from Gamestop, reset in the middle of Daytona 2001) but loaded bootdiscs and the same CD-Rs that failed on the other DC without any issue at all. After I got the version 2 modchipped, I didn't really need this one so much anymore, and it now belongs to a friend.