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BryanM wrote:It encapsulates that topic so beautifully - they don't hate Obamacare because of what it is. They hate it because of who created it.
Mitt Romney?
So then you have expensive ass drugs, and hospitals. And then you can't get insurance, because you had depression or whatever. So, basically..you die. Not that great an alternative, in my opinion.
It's a perfect solution if you adopt the Ayn Randian view that anyone unwilling or unable to slit throats to further his own interests is quite literally a lower class of human being and deserves to be mercilessly snapped in half over the knee of his betters. To the hardcore marketeers anything else is capitulation to the maggots, and completely unworthy of consideration.
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You know, I have heard for a year how horrible GG is, and how they harass and run women out of tech (that last one is funny).

But no one would ever report on the doxxing or threats done by aGG.

I was surprised when literally no mainstream media reported on the bomb threat to the first U.S. GG meetup.

And now we have the SPJAirplay thing, cut short, because of a bomb threat. And now, the only people outside of gaming that have reported on this (so far), is Rise: Miami News, Forbes, Reason, and a couple of other sites. That's sad, considering there were a bunch of journalists there. But I'm impressed at how Rise even has a GG section, and has written these articles.

http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/there- ... -movement/

http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/id-lik ... e-my-guts/

http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/gamerg ... fe-terror/

http://risemiaminews.com/2015/08/gamerg ... orruption/

It's nice to see THAT. I mean, we never even get a chance to speak.


Actually, I was thinking the mod at SPJAirplay wouldn't let anyone speak, at all, on the second panel. If anyone watched it. Even the "neutral" side, gave him some grief. But it was by a gamer and game developer. I would like to see more things like that. It's fine and all to disagree, but when people come down on gamers as a whole, you got to say "hey, we're just as good and bad as the rest of you. don't demonize us.".
I don't think he meant to do that, but he just kinda went WAY overboard, and made it more about him bickering with the panels. It was bizarre.

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I only saw about 15mins of this but you guys got this trending:

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Nice knowing you, narrative.
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Sly Cherry Chunks wrote:I only saw about 15mins of this but you guys got this trending:

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Nice knowing you, narrative.
And that was from the "neutral" side. :lol:
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evil_ash_xero wrote: The SJWs are weird as Hell. They're totally into the "representation" of gays, transgendered people, people of color etc. etc.", but when it comes to showing a body part, they're like the Puritans.
Odd, odd people.
Like they would be fine, seeing two guys fucking on a daytime soap opera, but if a woman is in a bikini, in an advert....they go nuts. Bizarro World.
I think they're not just like puritans, but that they are puritans. I believe in the horseshoe theory, that left and right wing extremists are more or less the same, and this applies to modern progressives and your typical christian fundamentalists.

If you put a "SJW" (I don't really like this word, but I don't like them either) and a christian fundamentalist in a room together, but didn't tell them that they were talking to someone on the opposite end of the political spectrum, they would probably end up being best of friends.
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Immryr wrote:
so what you're saying is the form of media entertainment you engage with is akin to a job like being a fisherman or an athlete, but another is just staving off boredom. yep, definitely sounds like seeking validation to me.
I think this is a good vid, describing my personal feelings on this. I'm sure you won't agree, but I'd rather show you this, than try to explain it. I'm not that great at expressing my opinions on things....well, in depth, anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQyUKrfXH-4
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So, what are everyone's favourite games to come out of this amazing event so far? Here's mine, an obvious safe choice. :cool:

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You can practically smell the early 90s CG and bulimia! :o And it plays as good as it looks.
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That game is a stone cold classic.
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nothing says equality like a woman with scrotum hair
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The ReBoot revival is not what we hoped for.
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Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
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We interrupt your regularly-scheduled programming to bring you a game journalism scandal that places the emphasis where it actually belongs 99 percent of the time: corporate sleaze.
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BulletMagnet wrote:We interrupt your regularly-scheduled programming to bring you a game journalism scandal that places the emphasis where it actually belongs 99 percent of the time: corporate sleaze.
Naturally Jason will whip out the ethics hat to shit on Youtubers; games journalism's number one competitor and inevitable replacement.

Nothing to see here. Let's all get back to arguing about Samus' dick.
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Nothing to see here. Let's all get back to arguing about Samus' dick.
You saw that article also...
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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I still have no idea what gamergate is (I'm not asking) but it has got me thinking about Samus' lolling member so it's not been for nothing.
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Can we argue about John Flynt's dick instead? No headcanon required.
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I recently came across an interesting article about a museum of Soviet-era arcade games, but I couldn't resist throwing gasoline on the fire with this little tidbit:
And, unlike machines in the West, every single machine that was produced during Soviet-era Russia had to align with Marxist ideology.

What does that mean, exactly?

Well, to put it simply: it means no Pac-Man. It means no fantasies. It means presenting work as physical labor, promoting Communist patriotism, and glorifying habits of mind that were appropriate to Marxist thinking. Fantasy and role-playing games featuring treasure-hunting, princesses, and invented creatures had no home in the USSR.
Videogames aren't supposed to be about FUN!
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It's a pretty well known factoid that the creator of Tetris felt very guilty about the massive amount of lost productivity he was responsible for. I always thought that was funny.

It's a pretty common sentiment that people are their jobs, but these places took it up a notch. Whenever someone calls some liberal policy "communist" I'm always like "Huh? 'Everyone should have a job' is liberal? Does work sound like something a hippy would like to do to you??"
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Mischief Maker wrote:Videogames aren't supposed to be about FUN!
Isn't that the truth? I've discovered so much great content in this movement, since relinquishing my selfish need for quality. What gets me is how it's all about producing great games, great writing and even great music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRinZyeugfY&t=10m20s

At least the schadenfreude is real. I wouldn't piss on John Flynt or Bob Chipman if they were burning to death in the street, but do I find their ilk so dreadfully amusing to observe between bouts of strenuous gaming. Image

Well that's a lie. I'd totally wee on a burning man, it's the only compassionate thing to do. No patreonbux though! I downloaded SMB3: Brick By Brick 4 FREE.
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BIL wrote:Can we argue about John Flynt's dick instead? No headcanon required.
No, we're now arguing about whose dick we're arguing about.
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People still care about Video Game Journalism, awesome.
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People always try to act like GG is overreacting about people like Sarkeesian.

She was at the U.N. with Zoe Quinn, talking batshit. I want to get off this ride.

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Bananamatic wrote:sick theme

I would not want that to be my theme song.
Also, I feel like GG does a lot of good against SJWs....but I feel that SJWs are winning in just about everything else.

Anita was at the U.N.. It's...wow..

And then there's "Google Ideas".

They scare the hell out of me.

At least there was the new South Park episode. :lol:
I don't know how much reach that has anymore, but at least SOMEONE is starting to really bring it to the common people's attention.
They're gonna be thought policed, and word policed, and ostracized for mis-gendering transsexuals, before the realize what the hell's going on.
And let us not forget. Manspreading is a CRIME, in New York. It's all funny and whatnot, and then it becomes a law.

SJWs have some MASSIVE influence. And it's only going to get worse. :(
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This U.N. report is absolutely unreal. The bibliography reads like someone never even passed English 101. Nevermind the fact that many of the sources themselves are shoddy. Just the formatting itself is hysterically amateur. Broken links, names with page numbers and no title so a person can't even figure out what the actual source is, duplicated references to make it seem like there's more weight to claims, blank lines with nothing on them, and yes, even blatant plagiarism... It's like they forgot or weren't able to finish their project on time and thought they'd just turn it in anyway and hoped nobody would notice.
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MathU wrote:It's like they forgot or weren't able to finish their project on time and thought they'd just turn it in anyway and hoped nobody would notice.
More like they figure no one who matters can criticize anything they do without being labeled a misogynist.
(Assuming the criticisms are accurate. I don't really care enough to read this thing myself)
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Yeah, I read that report. It's fairly crazy stuff. The most egregious part was when they quoted a LaRouche article which makes references to satanism and how Pokemon and Ritalin are turning toddlers into trained killers (for real. You might think I'm exaggerating but that's in the article they quote). Although I'm not in favor of GamerGate for several reasons, I also dislike the whole "men drawing characters with boobs causes rape" / "video games are murder simulators" pseudo-progressive viewpoint. I get grief from some people I know in the indie scene whenever I criticize their badly-argued blogs or videos, but I'm starting to think I'm not the crazy one here...

The passage in the report itself which cites the LaRouche article raised my eyebrow when it said this:
"Recent research on how violent video games are turning children, mostly boys, into 'killing zombies' (118) are also a part of mainstreaming violence."

(the "recent research" is that article I'm talking about)

Kinda weird to watch your friends turn into the specific kinds of liberals who think letting their kid play with toy guns will turn them into war-supporting psychos :/ And I say this as a die-hard pacifist/socialist whose favorite games include Commando and Doom. I feel like what happens when we get older is that some of us just happen to turn into Tipper Gore / Joseph Lieberman / Jack Thomson types.

But back to the article: Seriously, how did they let this thing out the door? Are they that much off the deep end, or just sloppy and don't care?

BTW Cyber VAWG sounds like a rogue AI from an 80s mecha anime. \o/
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louisg wrote:Cyber VAWG sounds like a rogue AI from an 80s mecha anime. \o/
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought this.
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trap15 wrote:
louisg wrote:Cyber VAWG sounds like a rogue AI from an 80s mecha anime. \o/
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought this.
You called it, gents! SOS from Britlandshire - Cyber VAWG has gone rogue and is shooting down friendly units! :shock:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -tweeting/

:lol:

The attract sequence of Cyber VAWG: Neo Twatter Shooting. Blast off and shoot down shitty games and the shitty people who whore them out!
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