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 Post subject: Hope to play Ketsuipachi on ntsc 360? release 1/27/15?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:29 am 


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so I was bummed a while back when I found out about the BL arrange mode and that I could only get the BL and BL novice on my ntsc 360. today softdrink played some awesome games via stream, and one of them was BL arrange aka ketsuipachi. bummed again I started looking for a jp 360, still as overpriced as ever lol. BUT then I remembered a while back there was a thread on forums about how there had been a few stgs added to the us xbla marketplace, so I said what the hell, maybe the other marketplaces got an update also.

check this out - http://marketplace.xbox.com/ja-JP/Produ ... 02435a07df

so, I have a jp account and whatnot (had to get that good ol mmp/ps dlc last year hahaha). am I correct in thinking that the ddp dfk bl has been added for a mere 16$ to the jp marketplace??? and that for free after purchasing I can download ketsuipachi?

edit: its probably region locked and im still screwed I bet lol
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so I was bummed a while back when I found out about the BL arrange mode and that I could only get the BL and BL novice on my ntsc 360. today softdrink played some awesome games via stream, and one of them was BL arrange aka ketsuipachi. bummed again I started looking for a jp 360, still as overpriced as ever lol. BUT then I remembered a while back there was a thread on forums about how there had been a few stgs added to the us xbla marketplace, so I said what the hell, maybe the other marketplaces got an update also.

check this out - http://marketplace.xbox.com/ja-JP/Produ ... 02435a07df

so, I have a jp account and whatnot (had to get that good ol mmp/ps dlc last year hahaha). am I correct in thinking that the ddp dfk bl has been added for a mere 16$ to the jp marketplace??? and that for free after purchasing I can download ketsuipachi?

edit: its probably region locked and im still screwed I bet lol



I thought ketsuipatchi only came with the physical release of Bl


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Yeah, Daifukkatsu Black Label Arrange (Ketsuipachi/Daifukketsui) is only on the physical release of Daifukkatsu Black Label.
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'black label PV2' says its the ketsui arrange...but idk enough about how the xbla marketplace works lol. I do know you need dfk bl first, but it looks like its on there as a DL as well as of jan 2015. did a bit of google searching about if xbl downloaded games are region locked, seems they aren't, so it seems I could buy a jp points code from play asia and then get dfk bl and then bl arrange. but again, idk, hence the thread o.o
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Yeah, Daifukkatsu Black Label Arrange (Ketsuipachi/Daifukketsui) is only on the physical release of Daifukkatsu Black Label.

oh nuuu trap, you crush mah dreams! so the 1,900 yen DL isn't a digital copy of the game? :'(

it seriously looks like a digital download of ddp dfk bl, and dlc for arrange
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The thing you linked should just be a GoD release of the DFK BL disc, so it would include Ketsuipachi. The only thing that's uncertain is whether that product is region-locked, but I think it was established in the other thread about this that a Japanese region console is required to play. (I think it was found that the GoD releases have whatever region coding the corresponding disc version had, but I'm not 100% on that.)
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Keres wrote:
The thing you linked should just be a GoD release of the DFK BL disc, so it would include Ketsuipachi. The only thing that's uncertain is whether that product is region-locked, but I think it was established in the other thread about this that a Japanese region console is required to play. (I think it was found that the GoD releases have whatever region coding the corresponding disc version had, but I'm not 100% on that.)


yeah, I read a little about the games on demand thing, bummer. as bad as I want to play bl arrange, I cant justify spending 400$ on a second 360, I guess im outta luck
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 Post subject: Re: Hope to play Ketsuipachi on ntsc 360? release 1/27/15?
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If you don't care about online then you can RGH mod your current 360 and make it region free. Even if you can't do it yourself, paying someone will be much cheaper than buying a Jap 360.


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Keres wrote:
(I think it was found that the GoD releases have whatever region coding the corresponding disc version had, but I'm not 100% on that.)


If only there was some sort of guide which contained such information
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DoomsDave wrote:
If you don't care about online then you can RGH mod your current 360 and make it region free. Even if you can't do it yourself, paying someone will be much cheaper than buying a Jap 360.

yeah, I don't mind the online aspect of any console to be honest lol. idk what RGH mod is, but I think what im probably gogin to do is trade/sell one of my extra ps3s and if needed one of my rarer games that's not an stg, like tron bonne or tomba or something in order to get a jp360 to play dfk bl and maybe the doj port since it has bl also and I only have the akira ps2 port of doj, those two games still seem pretty cheap.

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Keres wrote:
(I think it was found that the GoD releases have whatever region coding the corresponding disc version had, but I'm not 100% on that.)


If only there was some sort of guide which contained such information


lol Elixir, your wit, as always, kills me :P
I actually found your thorough guide last night, very well put together

it kinda sucks, but I guess I cant complain too much, all the other games I love so much im able to play on the ntsc360 (mmp/ps, sdoj, katana, Smiles, redstar dfk port) only one I cant is the dfk bl
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yeah considering trying to sell my 360 to get a j 360 as well but man it's expensive, 400$! I already have gta 4 on ps3 and don't care for black ops 2. Might sell some old movies as well lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Hope to play Ketsuipachi on ntsc 360? release 1/27/15?
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I don't why people think NTSC-J 360s are still worth $400, this isn't 2008.

There's some on Amazon.jp under $100 used, even using a proxy it's still under $200.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0013IQC14/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0040EIQF8/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B001F7AAFW/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B001IWNA88/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B000A41GHC/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0013IQC14/

Oh, and the game itself is under 2000 yen as well.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B004FGM5L2/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B007JR9LBG/
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woah I could buy one of those right now and with a game probably as well. thanks dude.

Also i'm a dumb kid (13) and this is probably going to sound ridiculously stupid but uh how would you pay the seller because of currency?


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 Post subject: Re: Hope to play Ketsuipachi on ntsc 360? release 1/27/15?
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idk about most people, but I will never ever ever ever buy a 360 used. they do not take mistreatment well, and with all used goods you don't know the environment it came from. most especially the first generation white 360s as they have no motherboard support in the center, so a guy plays it in a cubby of an entertainment center for hours on end, its not even a matter of will it break, its when. so in the end, for me to buy a 360 it would definitely have to be the E model and definitely a new one lol. and 400 is about the going rate for those

edit: let me also add, amazon is horrible, almost a grantee that the 12 listed sellers are actually 2 sellers hahaha, never had a good amazon experience
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I got a new NTSC-J 360 from rancor with Raiden IV and Aces and it cost me a bit over $400 AUD. Mind you, the games alone was nearly 200 and I think I paid for EMS shipping.
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leadwing85 wrote:
so in the end, for me to buy a 360 it would definitely have to be the E model and definitely a new one lol.


May want to review
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=942699#p942699
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51832
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so in the end, for me to buy a 360 it would definitely have to be the E model and definitely a new one lol.


May want to review
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=942699#p942699
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51832
before committing to an E model.


here is the JP 360E - http://www.play-asia.com/xbox-360-conso ... -71bb.html

as for the AV output, id just use hdmi as I do with the ntsc 360E, not too worried about the 'legacy outputs' or whatever it is lol
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That is ludicrously expensive... And it doesn't even include shipping. Hit me up if you want a better deal. Like literally +$100 off.
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leadwing85 wrote:

Alternately:
http://solarisjapan.com/collections/x360/products/xbox-360-4gb
http://solarisjapan.com/collections/x360/products/xbox-360-4gb-2010-model

A lot of people buy their XRGB-mini from Solaris Japan.

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as for the AV output, id just use hdmi as I do with the ntsc 360E, not too worried about the 'legacy outputs' or whatever it is lol

Around here a lot of people like to connect the Xbox 360 (@480p or even downscaled to 240p) to an actual, tated CRT to get that "Arcade PCB feel" - so yes those 'legacy outputs' (SCART, component, VGA) can be a big deal - YMMV.


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Those prices are still straight-up fucking retarded. You know those things sell for 19k here? Those assholes want 26k BEFORE shipping?
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leadwing85 wrote:
HydrogLox wrote:
leadwing85 wrote:
so in the end, for me to buy a 360 it would definitely have to be the E model and definitely a new one lol.


May want to review
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=942699#p942699
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51832
before committing to an E model.


here is the JP 360E - http://www.play-asia.com/xbox-360-conso ... -71bb.html

as for the AV output, id just use hdmi as I do with the ntsc 360E, not too worried about the 'legacy outputs' or whatever it is lol


it sure is great that I already linked this model: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0040EIQF8/

there's nothing wrong with third party japanese sellers, especially the ones that mention the contents or include pictures
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tho the reason to get one is limited, I still personally had to get a j360 for ketsupachi, ketsui (before ps3), mushihimesama hd, and dodonpachi daioujou

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That is ludicrously expensive... And it doesn't even include shipping. Hit me up if you want a better deal. Like literally +$100 off.

this is the way I'd go - rancor has never failed to impress with the awesome and fair deals.
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rancor wrote:
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That is ludicrously expensive... And it doesn't even include shipping. Hit me up if you want a better deal. Like literally +$100 off.


haha I would if I could rancor


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rancor wrote:
You know those things sell for 19k here? Those assholes want 26k BEFORE shipping?

Well if somebody is going to pay $100+ for EMS shipping they might as well make it worthwhile :twisted:

Though seriously, I composed that post before rancor's post offering his services came up just to show that there are online store alternatives to playasia for new consoles (and that gouging for factory-sealed S models is well underway). And there has been at least one reported problem with Solaris Japan console shipments (but stuff happens). I wish I would have been aware of rancor-exports when I made the leap.

Just be clear of what you are getting into - if there is something wrong with the unit (that can't be fixed locally) upon receipt, regardless of the cause, you might as well start over rather than getting into paying for shipping stuff back and forth. In my opinion choosing anything slower than EMS shipping for delivery is false economy and asking for trouble - you want to minimize the time where something can "happen" to the shipment (though there are still no guarantees).

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it sure is great that I already linked this model: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0040EIQF8/

there's nothing wrong with third party japanese sellers, especially the ones that mention the contents or include pictures


In my personal experience used merchandise from Japanese sellers is typically in excellent condition while the assessment of the condition tends to be conservative (though one should always be prepared for exceptions).

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this is the way I'd go - rancor has never failed to impress with the awesome and fair deals.

... to the point that I feel like I'm imposing and taking advantage of him ...


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Ketsui-Pachi is definitely worth buying a JPN 360 for, for me it's the best variation of Daifukkatsu ...

Shouldn't have sold my 360 now, but needed the cash lol.


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Playing Ketsuipachi is quite something to play/behold on a JPN region 360 console -- having gone with an JPN region 360 Slim console with an 250 GB HDD setup + the ability to use optional 360 VGA output is pure "extra icing on the cake" sweetness if you will.

The extra modes found in the 360 DDP-DFK BL disc has more content compared to playing on a plain-vanilla SH3 powered DDP-DFK BL PCB setup quite easily. Now if Cave had released a special Cave Matsuri version of Ketsuipachi PCB, that would've been cool to see/play.

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