LKV362 RGB Problem

[GenesisBits]

Hey guys! I just spent the good part of an hour searching the internet on where to ask this question, hopefully you guys can help me out.

I bought this scaler about a year and a bit ago. (LKV362)

It hasn't been great. Since I bought it, I only assumed it did Composite SCART and was not compatible with RGB SCART. Only today did I look back on the listing and see that it does indeed say it is RGB compatible.

"Input: Scart (CVBS / RGB); automatic identified RGB 50/60Hz and CVBS (NTSC / PAL) signals"

I have never been able to get it into RGB mode.

I have used a Sega Mega Drive and an RGB modded N64 both using RGB cables and it will still display them in CBVS.

I'm not sure exactly what to do or if I can put it on RGB mode. Any ideas?

[Xyga]

Hint: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41909

[GenesisBits]

Hint: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41909

Thanks for that.
So it seems like it doesn't support RGB? :-/ God damn.. I should have really asked for a refund when I purchased it.

I purchased a CVID BG-460 today. I heard much better things about this one. Hopefully it will do the job for me!

Although this is worrying me now...

"Anyway, you can forget capturing RGB through a converter. You need a video processor which unlocks the input and output frequencies, e.g. some kind of iScan from DVDO. Or even better, replace the AverTV card with a Startech card as recently discussed here. Add a sync stripper and you can record RGBs right away without any conversion."

[Xyga]

Why do you need a scart to hdmi converter by the way ? What are you aiming at ?

[GenesisBits]

Why do you need a scart to hdmi converter by the way ? What are you aiming at ?

Pretty much to capture RGB from an Elgato Game Capture HD.

I would go for the XRGB Mini but I need a cheap solution right now and SCART to HDMI seems to be the cheapest at the moment.

[Xyga]

Mmh... I can't guarantee that would work but supposedly the Elgato is able to record 240p/288p;

So maybe a simple rgb to component transcoder like a CSY-2100 clone would do the trick ?
(you would have to use the AV-in of the Elgato with the provided component-av cable)

[GenesisBits]

Mmh... I can't guarantee that would work but supposedly the Elgato is able to record 240p/288p;

So maybe a simple rgb to component transcoder like a CSY-2100 clone would do the trick ?
(you would have to use the AV-in of the Elgato with the provided component-av cable)

I've been looking into those before but I'm confused about something. Doesn't that mean I wouldn't have sound if I used one of those seeing as the outputs seems to be purely video with no audio jacks?

If my new scaler won't do the job (it seems to do it from what I have seen on YouTube) then I may just get a refund and hold off for the XRGB.

Life would be easier if Elgato just released some sort of RGB SCART adapter...

[Xyga]

Yeah the CSY-2100 and clones don't have any audio output, but you could always add one yourself, directly from the scart input connector or derivated from a generic scart extension cable.
It's an easy DIY mod.

Of course you wouldn't have control over the audio input levels (unless the Elgato is able to do this from its interface?)

Anyway that's the cheapest solution I can think of... some CSY-2100 clones just labelled as 'rgb scart to component converter' go for peanuts and are said to be as good as the genuine one, or can be with a few adjustments of its potentiometers .

[GenesisBits]

Yeah the CSY-2100 and clones don't have any audio output, but you could always add one yourself, directly from the scart input connector or derivated from a generic scart extension cable.
It's an easy DIY mod.

Of course you wouldn't have control over the audio input levels (unless the Elgato is able to do this from its interface?)

Anyway that's the cheapest solution I can think of... some CSY-2100 clones just labelled as 'rgb scart to component converter' go for peanuts and are said to be as good as the genuine one, or can be with a few adjustments of its potentiometers .

Hmm I'm not too good with that stuff but my brother has a knack for the soldering iron so I'm sure he could do it. Elgato is also very finiky with output back to my TV. For example, my Elgato would pick up S-Video on my N64 fine and would display it on my PC but not on my TV (the PC software has big input lag while TV display gives no input lag), the same thing would happen with a composite conection. For some reason this may be down to my TV even though Composite will work no problem without Elgato.

Using a scaler will boost it to 1080p (digital?) and should give Elgato an easy time handing the connection over to my TV.

Thanks for your help anyway mate! All the more nervous now waiting for my new scaler so it will be interesting so see how it turns out! I don't want to turn my back on that gorgeous RGB quality after only recently discovering it.

[Xyga]

Well I don't know if a scaler will really help the picture quality, unless it's a Frame Meister which delivers a very clean and sharp picture of course (but don't forget it's got about 24ms of input lag by itself already!)

Personally I'd try the transcoder solution first, since the Elgato is supposed to be able to deal with 240/288p I'd be curious to see how well it does.
If it does well by itself, adding a scaler in the chain could actually make the picture quality worse (aside from adding lag of course).

Just a guess of course, I don't own an Elgato or a CSY myself. Anyway good luck !

[GenesisBits]

I just want to report back that the new scaler arrived today and it's been fantastic so far.

It's leaps and bounds better than my previous one and will automatically pick up my SCART RGB. It's very easy to switch between 720p and 1080p and was much less trouble than my LKV362.

Here is a short video example of it with an RGB modded N64.

Here are some screen grabs of it.