Prelude to the Apocalypse

[supergrafx77]

Meanwhile, in "BREAKING NEWS," :
NBC news is now reporting that the WH/CIA is getting plans in order for cyber attack/offensive against Russia.
http://vid38.photobucket.com/albums/e12 ... p8zYhd.mp4
Please tell me that Jabba the Hutt aka Donald Trump isn't more dangerous than the neocon/neolib globalist elite club.
Because I certainly do not believe he is at this point.

[quash]

It's more likely they're coming from the FBI tbqf

It's like nobody remembers what Xkeyscore is.

Pretty sure I mentioned earlier that we are on the cusp of a civil war within the federal government. It would seem that we have officially crossed that threshold.

[Ed Oscuro]

Pretty sure I mentioned earlier that we are on the cusp of a civil war within the federal government. It would seem that we have officially crossed that threshold.

Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of you crying about how it's time for a revolution because the electorate isn't playing along with every racist whim of a minority within minority party.

Meanwhile, in "BREAKING NEWS," :
NBC news is now reporting that the WH/CIA is getting plans in order for cyber attack/offensive against Russia.

So you're totally cool if Russians hack your email and bank account, too? Russia seems to think this kind of thing is safe, so why shouldn't we?

I am just seeing jarring levels of hate for the country and self-righteousness here. The US government never tried to pretend Russians were behind our mistakes.

[supergrafx77]

Meanwhile, in "BREAKING NEWS," :
NBC news is now reporting that the WH/CIA is getting plans in order for cyber attack/offensive against Russia.

So you're totally cool if Russians hack your email and bank account, too? Russia seems to think this kind of thing is safe, so why shouldn't we?

I am just seeing jarring levels of hate for the country and self-righteousness here. The US government never tried to pretend Russians were behind our mistakes.

The current US leadership/government, is in fact deflecting from its treasonous misconduct to its citizenry by starting this bullshit Red Scare w/ Russia.
I still am bewildered how MSM journalists are blaming Russia, Russia, Russia, w/out showing evidence or source matter for such a claim.
Other than constantly alluding to vague connotations that CIA/FBI has reason to believe w/out a doubt, that Russian is indeed, involved.....
And this... after the collusion of the DOJ/FBI w/ the Clintons concerning boarding airplanes for private "discussions," while being investigated , granting immunity to every suspect involved in that investigation, erasing evidence after subpoena was issued by fucking Congress, +++++++....
Furthermore, even if the Wikileaks emails/leaks are state sponsored from such a country as Russia, as a proud...uhmm....as Hillary calls the Bernie folks, "Bucket of Losers," Progressive Socialist that believes in transparency of governments, why would I care if this specific revealed corruption and treasonous actions of our government+globalist leaders, came from another sovereign world player?
I don't. And lastly, revealing corruption and making such corruption of governments transparent to its citizenry that is being fk'd in the process, I find to be a saving grace from our captors and enslavers. But what I find most painful in this process of forced transparency upon us by whoever is actually enlightening us of our government's deception through Wikileaks, is something to the effect that Malcom X once said, about the difference between house negroes and field negroes. Now I knew that there will always be a house negro mindset in civilizations, I just had no idea that the numbers/populace aka hillbots were on par with field negroes aka folks who are not lemmings/status quo sheep. And this is where Quash is right on the money again, a bloody Civil War is probably going to happen at some point, I predict and it's going to be bloody like the first one was.

[quash]

Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of you crying about how it's time for a revolution because the electorate isn't playing along with every racist whim of a minority within minority party.

Or it could be that many people in government (most of which are hardly neo-Nazis) see that the US is a presidency away from becoming a banana republic. At the rate things are going, that's the best case scenario of a Clinton presidency.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone: Donald Trump didn't come from nowhere. Had the people running the US for the past 50 years not done such an awful job of securing its future, we wouldn't have to fight for it today.

I hope you're being rewarded handsomely for your incessant diversion from the blatant corruption that's brought us to this point.

[EmperorIng]

I just hope the legions of newly-minted shill-4-hills can prove successful in "dragging Hillary to the left" before she allows us to be dragged "right" into a war with Russia.

But you'd better start now before all of her cabinet posts are finalized!

The amount of finger-pointing and saber-rattling is disconcerting, at this point. The new DNC chair shown leaking town hall questions to Hillary prior to the events? She blames it all on Russia. Be afraid of Russia! Deflect any question about wrong-doing on to Russia seems to be the Democrat strategy for covering up their corruption and incompetence at this point.

I'm not a fan of the Kremlin, nor am I supportive of Russia's attempts at destabilizing the world, but we also have to own up to our own reckless military expansion, which involves us playing a very dangerous game of one-upmanship. And the fact that this is just to score political points with the so-called "neocon" establishment and a few extra Republican votes would be funny if it weren't so sad. As the article points out, it does not seem coincidental that the USA has backed several regime changes that directly challenge the Russians. While it can be argued that Ukraine and Syria are/were headed by unsavory leaders (charitably speaking), it seems like a selective case of chop-off-the-head, especially with our cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia and its king's desire to wipe the Yemeni off the face of the earth. What the world needs is some serious efforts at deescalation and conflict resolution. And since Clinton will likely be our next president, I am not sure if she possesses those skills as the times demand.

Of course Trump would be well-informed of the conspiracy arrayed against him.

Because he's a central part of it.

You know, this almost is the stuff of Greek tragedy.

A man set up by the elites as a patsy and clown. However his own temperament and character prevent him from playing the role of the good patsy and instead does his best to take everything down with him. That certainly wasn't in the plan, I bet!

Maybe the raging anger of an insane Trump is doing this country a service by not only exposing the hypocrisy of the GOP, but the collusion of the Dems and the media and the unsavory corruption we are willing to stomach.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of you crying about how it's time for a revolution because the electorate isn't playing along with every racist whim of a minority within minority party.

Or it could be that many people in government (most of which are hardly neo-Nazis) see that the US is a presidency away from becoming a banana republic.

Funny, the last time I heard that phrase it was spoken by people of Trump's threat (or was it just another of his not-so-serious "jokes" ...the kind he's happy to own as serious proposals until they backfire) to just throw Clinton in jail.

I've said it before, he wants to be a king. Due process what?

@ EmperorIng: Isolationism won't protect us from Internet attacks, and it won't protect freedom of navigation on shipping. Wanting to keep Putin from dictating US policy and making them suffer consequences for provocations is hardly a bellicose act.

Everybody's acting as if Clinton (and Obama) are ready to start WWIII, but again, it's only the Russians taking a page from the North Korean desperation playbook. Russia is already attacking us in every way they can, and if more people had sense they would realize the consequences are hardly bloodless. But for there to be a war, that would be up to the Russians. Nothing Obama or Clinton are proposing to do would start a war, so everybody just needs to settle down and accept that we're basically already in another cold war. Us liberals are hardly about to start the McCarthy routine, but you'd better believe America shouldn't let pro-Russian factions run the agenda here.

[ED-057]

bombing of civilians the Russians and Syrians (and Iranians)

Yes, how dare they bomb those Al Qaeda "rebels." Oh wait, They're bombing civilians! That's our fucking job!

They took our jobs!

Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of you crying about how it's time for a revolution because the electorate isn't playing along with every racist whim

I thought we'd established that the "OMG racism/sexism" debate tactic is getting stale. Please come up with something new, thanks.

I am just seeing jarring levels of hate for the country

What country? You mean all of the suddenly-popular anti-Russian bigotry? (oh snap!)

The US government never tried to pretend Russians were behind our mistakes.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Everybody's acting as if Clinton (and Obama) are ready to start WWIII, but again, it's only the Russians

It's right there in the leaked emails. Hillary believes that, because hubby got away with bombing Serbia and the Russians did nothing, she can also bomb anywhere she likes and get away with it.

Putin threw a monkey wrench into US plans to regime change Syria. But the neocon shitbags believe they just have to keep the war going a little longer, escalate it a bit further, and eventually Putin will back down and they can acheive their goal of removing Assad. And who cares if millions of Syrians are killed and/or displaced?

Does this sound like a good plan to you, Ed? Or are you still holding on to the lie that attacking a foreign country which never attacked us (without declaration of war I might add) and arming "rebels" there is some "humanitarian" cause?

[quash]

Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of you crying about how it's time for a revolution because the electorate isn't playing along with every racist whim of a minority within minority party.

Or it could be that many people in government (most of which are hardly neo-Nazis) see that the US is a presidency away from becoming a banana republic.

Funny, the last time I heard that phrase it was spoken by people of Trump's threat (or was it just another of his not-so-serious "jokes" ...the kind he's happy to own as serious proposals until they backfire) to just throw Clinton in jail.

I've said it before, he wants to be a king. Due process what?

Due process hasn't occurred in the case of Hillary. She should be, at the very least, assuming she didn't break any laws in her communications (which we now know for sure isn't the case), facing charges for obstruction of justice for both lying under oath and destroying evidence after being subpoenaed.

But what can you expect from an FBI director who was on the board of HSBC while they were laundering money for the Clinton Foundation?

[Mischief Maker]

She is so much savvier at the political game than Donald "Whut? I can't bribe the attorney general with charity money?" Trump.

[Bitter Almonds]

We very much doubt $hillary is gonna be steered in the right direction by the idiots who support her. She's hellbent on her stupid and ruinous foreign and domestic policies.

[quash]

She is so much savvier at the political game than Donald "Whut? I can't bribe the attorney general with charity money?" Trump.

Hillary "Knowingly accepted donations from state sponsors of terrorism" Clinton can't even keep her communications secure.

Does nobody here get it still? Someone out there has all 33,000+ of her e-mails because they were all intercepted and archived by XKS. It's just a matter of who has the balls to release them all.

[Mischief Maker]

She is so much savvier at the political game than Donald "Whut? I can't bribe the attorney general with charity money?" Trump.

Hillary "Knowingly accepted donations from state sponsors of terrorism" Clinton can't even keep her communications secure.

Does nobody here get it still? Someone out there has all 33,000+ of her e-mails because they were all intercepted and archived by XKS. It's just a matter of who has the balls to release them all.

Good. I want those emails released. Complacency of would-be liberal activists is the fertilizer in which neoliberalism grows. I want her under the gun for the next four years due to her money connections and I want her primaried in 2020 once the Supreme Court is secure.

Confirming our suspicions that the DNC had its thumb on the scales for Hillary Clinton does nothing to alleviate Trump's massive incompetence.

[BryanM]

All just the narcissism of small differences.

Still blown away that anyone is satisfied by "we investigated ourselves and found no problems." Corruption doesn't matter, black lives don't matter, Iraqi lives don't matter, American lives don't matter.

The only thing that matters is more money for them and fuck us.

I want her primaried in 2020 once the Supreme Court is secure.

She's not going to be primaried. The forthcoming eight years are gone if she wins. Possibly the next 12 to 16 after Sanders dies and there's no one with balls old and big enough to take his place.

And the supreme court will be secured either way. For republicans.

Really.... looking forward to her cast of Merrick Garlands.... it'll be like... like the cast of Friends.... except... much funnier.... and terrifying......

[Mischief Maker]

Well I think we all know the real loser this election:

Spoiler

Tic Tacs' brand identity.

[EmperorIng]

Look on the bright side, Bryan: at least those republican judges will enshrine your right to force other people to ignore your penis and call you a girl.

Yemen may still be a bombed-out hell hole, but we will have our priorities straight.

[Bitter Almonds]

She is so much savvier at the political game than Donald "Whut? I can't bribe the attorney general with charity money?" Trump.

Hillary "Knowingly accepted donations from state sponsors of terrorism" Clinton can't even keep her communications secure.

Does nobody here get it still? Someone out there has all 33,000+ of her e-mails because they were all intercepted and archived by XKS. It's just a matter of who has the balls to release them all.

Good. I want those emails released. Complacency of would-be liberal activists is the fertilizer in which neoliberalism grows. I want her under the gun for the next four years due to her money connections and I want her primaried in 2020 once the Supreme Court is secure.

Confirming our suspicions that the DNC had its thumb on the scales for Hillary Clinton does nothing to alleviate Trump's massive incompetence.

It only serves to confirm $hillary's massive corruption.

[quash]

She is so much savvier at the political game than Donald "Whut? I can't bribe the attorney general with charity money?" Trump.

Hillary "Knowingly accepted donations from state sponsors of terrorism" Clinton can't even keep her communications secure.

Does nobody here get it still? Someone out there has all 33,000+ of her e-mails because they were all intercepted and archived by XKS. It's just a matter of who has the balls to release them all.

Good. I want those emails released. Complacency of would-be liberal activists is the fertilizer in which neoliberalism grows. I want her under the gun for the next four years due to her money connections and I want her primaried in 2020 once the Supreme Court is secure.

Confirming our suspicions that the DNC had its thumb on the scales for Hillary Clinton does nothing to alleviate Trump's massive incompetence.

You're assuming that we'd live to see 2020 under a Clinton presidency. How cute.

https://youtu.be/7DcATG9Qy_A

If we weren't already risking nuclear war over these fucking e-mails, I'd call this a sign of panicking.

[BryanM]

Every time I think the plutocrat's propaganda networks couldn't be any worse...

I hit the post button to say something like "nah quash, the full effects won't exert themselves until a little over a decade passes, it won't be until ~2036 before people realize we're going extinct."

But after that clip, fuck me, maybe he's right. Maybe we don't make it to 2020. Maybe it's game over right now man.

Look on the bright side, Bryan: at least those republican judges will enshrine your right to force other people to ignore your penis and call you a girl.

But I don't want people to ignore my penis ;_;

[quash]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-decrie ... 42552.html

"We are going to have to rebuild within this wild-wild-west-of-information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to," Obama said at an innovation conference in Pittsburgh.

"There has to be, I think, some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic truthiness tests and those that we have to discard, because they just don't have any basis in anything that's actually happening in the world," Obama added.

https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA

We made it. [LOUDLY CRYING FACE]

I just hope we get bipedal nuclear tanks and nanomachine enhanced soldiers sooner rather than later.

[trap15]

So you disagree that the internet has allowed factually false information to be given a wide stage that people may believe and create an echo chanber community around? And there's a difference between wanting a way to know factuality (there already is, it's called check many sources), which is what Obama's talking about, and actual censorship, which exists only in your head (in this case, that is...)

[quash]

So you disagree that the internet has allowed factually false information to be given a wide stage that people may believe and create an echo chanber community around?

No, but that's never been the issue of debate.

And there's a difference between wanting a way to know factuality (there already is, it's called check many sources)

In 2003, many sources said there was a high probability of Iraq possessing WMD's. Today, many sources say that Russia has been the antagonizer in Syria, and that they've been responsible for hacking everything.

Therein lies the issue. We already have a media apparatus that reinforces lies and distortion. George Zimmerman is white. Michael Brown had his hands up. This disinformation spread like wildfire, and that was with the media's red stamp of approval.

which is what Obama's talking about, and actual censorship, which exists only in your head (in this case, that is...)

It doesn't take much to see through this for what it is, dude. CNN is trying to convince you that reading WikiLeaks is illegal, for crying out loud.

[BulletMagnet]

You're assuming that we'd live to see 2020 under a Clinton presidency. How cute.

While we're trudging through this particularly odious mire, open question for the Trumpskis - if Hillary does win, how many weeks/months/years into her tenure will we have to endure without World War III breaking out before you're willing to admit that both you and your erstwhile leaders were always full of shit on this?

[quash]

I'll bet you $200 we'll be in a direct conflict with Russia within six months.

[Obscura]

Quash, could you define "direct conflict"?

I mostly agree with you, but "conventional warfare with Russia" seems unlikely. Cold-war style "proxy wars in little pointless countries all over the globe" seem likely (well, ok, we're already there...), but if nothing else, both sides still have a big stockpile of nukes, which should prevent American soldiers from firing shots inside of Russia or vice-versa.

[quash]

I'm saying there will be direct exchange. Most likely in Syria, but it's possible it can happen elsewhere.

I mean, we've technically already had a direct exchange what with bombing the Syrian government during a cease fire, but nevermind that. It's going to escalate from here if either Hillary wins or if internal polls show Trump winning.

[Obscura]

That I can see happening, with the caveat that no politician inside the U.S. will acknowledge that it's happening (or at least that it's intentional). Phrases like "Syrian government loyalists" will be used as stand-ins for "Russians".

[quash]

You can only "accidentally" bomb things using the most precise targeting systems in the world for so long until even the most brainwashed start asking questions.

Russia's plan was to wait until the election to decide if they are to escalate or not. If Trump wins, they'll hold out for a few months of Obama's nonsense and take it from there. If Hillary wins, they're likely to get it started before she has a chance to.

But the way things are looking now, it might be kicking off just before the election.

[Obscura]

No need for "accidents". We target Syrian government forces, and, *gasp*, there were Russians there too?!?! How could we have known?!?! Why oh why were they there?!?!

Either the presence of Russians won't be mentioned, or our government will act like they were totally unintentional collateral damage.

[system11]

I think the risks of a renewed cold war are very high, certainly very strained relations. Sadly the established political elite are going to self promotionally use this to look strong, like they always do.