Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

No, Trump is the male Hillary Clinton. Or the bronze George W.

Nothing will change, but we're less likely to heat up the cold war and we'd at least have a shot of fixing things in 2020.

You'll still have the exact freedom of thought as you have now. Which is all of it.

[quash]

I am in the US military

Damn, they should be doing some serious vetting.

Obama wouldn't have qualified for a security clearance had he not been elected president based on past drug use alone. Sounds serious enough for me.

Conspiracy nuts and Putin lapdogs have no business in our forces.

You act as if they don't create them.

Anyways, if this doesn't convince you all that I am who I say I am, I don't know what will.

[Xyga]

He just wants those damn Mexicans to go away and all those yappity women to shut up.

In essence, making America great again.

The scariest thing of all, is how you religious fundamentalist far-right psychos in your delirium cannot comprehend that what you want is a regime applying your ideal sharia law that'll be a thousand times more liberticide, oppressive and anti-civilization, than what any of those petty annoying people your mental condition make you see as demons from hell would ever be capable of.

People like you are immensely more of threat to any form of civilized society, save maybe a complete criminal totalitarian regime (theocracy-style in your case) than any dyed loud bitches or mexican gardeners will ever be.
But you can't see that, because you're all sick fucks who haven't had a single new idea in centuries, and proud of it, you'd be in extase just having the right to make this world a living Hell for all those you hate.

Obviously, no amount of evidence that I'm not living in a Russian troll house can prove that I'm not an agent of the Russians. But I am in the US military, and that alone should explain why I've taken a particular interest in this election and how it's affecting relations with Russia.

What kind of proof do you require to quell your doubts

You don't need me to give you more opportunities to further paint this thread with your lies, do you ?
I'm not asking you anything in any case, no tweet or blog or whatever shit you can fabricate will do anyway. I was talking to the others and telling them they can figure by themselves if I'm saying bullshit when I state you are a fucking sockpuppet working for Russia's propaganda war, or if it's indeed real. They can, and they will if they want to, those who've read you for long would figure rapidly (unless they're extremely dense/clueless), the others would have to stick out their fingers, but heh.

Then of course there's the guys happy to have a bot spamming extreme right-wing and conspiracy shit because it's their dope, they hate leftists/blacks/mexicans/muslims/jews/gays/femisnists/democracy/blahblahblah and they're going to vote Trump for these reasons anyway, so whether you're just a random nut like them or an actual paid troll from a cuntry-coalition who's through-and-through their own country's enemies won't faze them, they're rather happy actually because they share values with your masters.
Frankly speaking I think if they won the trumpies would go on all fours and beg daddy Vlad to do them all, and they'd shed tears of happiness (yes even without lube).

resident CIA plant?

You wish. No in fact I wish, that'd make me some money.

[BryanM]

In case you're the sort of person with time to kill, CGP released a new video on how power structures work.

TLDW:

* There's no hope.
* People like Opus will always get their way by putting people like Hillary Clinton into power over and over and over and over again.

[EmperorIng]

It was a neat video; it brings to mind how Teddy Roosevelt (courtesy the biography I am slooowly working through) had to keep all of the machine-politician Rep/Dem cronies happy while trying to imprint some reform on the polity. An agonizingly slow process!

It also helps that he was able to beat the shit out of people, and the public obliged! How many reporters these days would be actually willing to get into a fist-fight with the president?

Anyways, if this doesn't convince you all that I am who I say I am, I don't know what will.

Strikers 1945? Good taste; great sprites! Maybe if the military was like how Psikyo imagined it (transforming mechs + busty women everywhere), I'd join!

[Mischief Maker]

Personally, i was thinking more something along the lines of being able to tell those moral busybodies and their media and corporate backers to get fucked without facing any personal repercussion,

So you want to scream obscenities at people, then hide behind Daddy Trump before they can hit back?

For a guy who's so uptight about gender roles you really need to learn to be a man.

[Giest118]

So you want to scream obscenities at people, then hide behind Daddy Trump before they can hit back?

For a guy who's so uptight about gender roles you really need to learn to be a man.

Man, fuck that. Standards only apply to other people.

[quash]

https://youtu.be/EMMiPAHe_0M

As if things could get any stranger, Michael Moore has come to realize that Trump is the candidate of the proletariat.

[orange808]

America needs a leader with a plan.

Spoiler

[Wata123]

a shitposter like Trump [...] achieving actual freedom of thought once and for all.

So 4chan is the true American dream. And here, a bit of philosophical name-dropping and quote dumping explaining why.

Man, I can't believe people are taking this clown seriously. How far gone does a person have to be to come up with this shit?

Maybe I haven't been following the various social shit shows on twitter/tumblr/4chan, but am I really the only one here who's amazed at the pants-on-head retardedness of a dude who uses Chesterton quotes to explain why we have to make a reality tv host the president of the US in order to counter the civilization-collapsing threat presented by a pink-haired girl on tumblr (because the prez will actually be a professional 4chan troll as explained in this lecture by Guénon)? This shit is getting genuine responses from real people? This very post is way more of a response than all that sperging out above deserves.

I mean, people are making fun of quash, but he's actually pretty reasonable and explains his thoughts well enough. His conspiracies aren't crazy at all, they're actually just the usual boring ones about geopolitics and wars for resources that a lot of people on a lot of sites discuss.

I mean, at least he isn't primarily voting for Trump because a pink-haired weeb chick's gender-swapped Naruto fanart triggered him.

I'm voting for Stein btw.
Also Rowlings>>>Tolkien, Lewis, Chesterton, and many others. Suck it dweebs and old mans.

[orange808]

Lovecraft>>>Rowlings

[Wata123]

Lovecraft sucks, he just repeats "it was scary and crazy" a million different ways and calls it a day.

[EmperorIng]

I enjoyed your post wata, but Rowling? Come the fuck on, man. If you want light fantasy pulp read Eddings; he at least knows he is light fantasy pulp (and had a sense of humor about it).

And don't be too hard on Opus. He's come to the realization that much of the modern rational/material ways of thinking rest on assumptions that are neither rational nor material (see: The Nature of Scientific Revolutions*). Someone who's reached that stage of peering through the vapors realizes that most modern thought is bullshit and worthy of mockery.

I liken "SJW-ism" to a modern-day secular cult, much in the way that Freudianism was the great secular cult of the 20th century: dogmatic texts, unfalsifiable assumptions, a litany of virgin martyrs, you name it. Even if it's clearly bullshit you can't "disprove" the patriarchal power structure that's like in, everything man (just like the matrix, yo), just like you can't disprove that deep down, you really want to bang your mom and have trauma over potty training.

*our political/cultural biases inform more of how we see the natural world than we would like to admit. On a somewhat (though not directly) related thought: the crusade today to distill all knowledge into only purely material terms - ie, material knowledge is the only objective knowledge - while dismissing immaterial knowledge as irrelevant. It's worth noting how recent this notion is, and how contrary it has been to most human history/ways of seeing the world.

I guess these points don't have much to do with Trump, but hey.

[Durandal]

Is that what you think is going to happen if Trump wins?

Personally, i was thinking more something along the lines of being able to tell those moral busybodies and their media and corporate backers to get fucked without facing any personal repercussion, which is where a shitposter like Trump comes in handy. It is a question of braking through this psychological prison we've all been subjected by loony feminists and assorted deranged leftists. It is a question of achieving actual freedom of thought once and for all.

I don't see how SJWs will go away if you trigger them hard enough by placing a cis privileged cracker man on the throne. If anything it might have the opposite effect, depending on how much Trump botches his presidency, he will forever be remembered as the How Not To Be a President or Proper Humen Being guy, alongside Bush and Nixon. It's just a terrible fucking standard to go by if he's our Anti-SJW Champion, as the normal person will start seeing SJWs as more decent human beings compared to those rude alt-right guys.
Now a Clinton presidency, she isn't even a SJW, she just pretends to be for votes and dosh, but she will always be remembered as one. However, if you want to make someone seem like an absolute fool, elect them as a leader and see how much they can fail. Just look at how well feminism turned out for Yahoo and Twitter, those are the kind of examples people will go by. Those rude alt-right guys sure seem more reasonable if 'SJW Champion' Hillary Clinton can't run the country worth shit. Thankfully the polls at shmups.system11 have an excellent track record of perfectly predicting real-life polls, so god will elect Hillary and sort those SJWs out for you.

[ED-057]

BryanM, your theory regarding Trump being controlled opposition is more than a little plausible. I had my doubts at first. In the third debate he stated that the media was dishonest and that the election is rigged. "If he is controlled opposition, how could he be allowed to say it's all a sham? People might actually believe it...!" I thought. But then I realized that repubs probably already believe this, and that dems wouldn't care anyway what with their attention span being limited to about fifty milliseconds.

The plan to place the Queen into her throne obviously had a lot of work put into it (the record of this being contained in the leaked emails) so why not? It's awfully convenient how the media provided Trump with all of that free press during the primary, only to turn on him later, and with the GOP also being hesitant to support him. The poll numbers just have to be close enough that the contest looks legit.

The corporate media really are the most despicable actors in this scenario. It's thanks to them that people believe they have to choose between ass cancer and brain cancer.

So I guess I should vote for Stein, instead of voting Trump for spite value. Although I've heard that Asteroid Strike is polling as high as 25%, so I maybe I'll write that one in.

[ED-057]

Oh BTW, now that McCarthyism is back, can someone post the phone number where I am supposed to report commies? Or is there an app for that now?

[quash]

We're finally getting a peek at Satan 2, sequel to the smash hit Satan, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

[BulletMagnet]

So you want to scream obscenities at people, then hide behind Daddy Trump before they can hit back?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: for all their bellyaching about how "sissified" the rest of the world is, the entire raison d'etre of the "alt-right" is to make the entire country one big, fluffy safe space for them and only them...and the only way to do that is to enact exactly the sort of totalitarian "thought control" they accuse everyone else of "oppressing" them with. Apparently the fact that the big bad government still deploys cops to keep protestors away from Klan rallies doesn't seem to register.

I've also said before that there are many segments of conservatives that liberals should make an effort to reach out to and find common ground with, but, if I may take the opportunity to cast off the shackles of political correctness for a moment, the alts are such a hopeless bunch of bitter, clueless crybabies that they can't even handle the pity-party societal isolation they claim to covet.

[Xyga]

Oh BTW, now that McCarthyism is back, can someone post the phone number where I am supposed to report commies? Or is there an app for that now?

Commies ? lol, we're talking about a KGB-trained mafia boss who's got an entire nation's resources, huge military and large entranced population at his feet to achieve his revengeful ambitions. Whether their economy is crapping out because of the sanctions doesn't make them any less determined, quite the opposite, remember what the worn-out Germany achieved after the nazis went into power.
And now news flash for those about a decade years late! Putin's pouring money into every European far-right, religious fundamentalist, anti-EU parties and organizations he can. Flooding the fucking web with paid alt-right nazi trolls and propaganda websites in many languages, sponsors and manages the so-called human traffickers (FSB puppets) who've been sending us refugees non-stop from at least fifteen different countries.

A mafia state, yes, because 'Murica's typical shady schemes to sneak their tentacles onto what Russia consider their turf (georgia, ukraine, syria, plus whatever ex-ussr territory) basically had the same effect as stepping on a psycho mafia boss's shiny shoe: he will make you compensate by beating the shit out of you, rape your daughter, burn your entire neighborhood, and eat your cat.
And that without batting an eye, because the hate of the 'decadent west' dates from way before even the commies.
It's just that after the fall of the USSR we just all completely stopped thinking about Russia, and forgot how they fucking despise the 'west' (since they can only see Europe and the US as a single entity anyway, it's been their vision for so long it's almost written in their DNA now, but that makes them easier to spot).

USAsshole eagles pulled another shitty scheme that failed dramatically and went way beyond just backfiring, they've triggered a fucking entire monster clan even worse and warped than them, and put the world into a state of pre-world-war. Now we have to stand against that menace even if that means dealing with that Clinton bitch, because if we don't we're fucked to the bone, that's the basics with mafia thugs; show them you're weak and unwilling and they'll interpret it as an invitation to beat you up more. And clearly the EU by itself doesn't impress Putin, we still need the US's support as fucking infuriating a situation as it is.
Because if we let Russia and its vassals continue their undermining job against the EU in crisis, which is their #1 weak link target, it will collapse and the nations all over again will fall into an unstoppable spiral of gruesome fascism and nationalism (Russia's mafia-establishment's wet dream; to finally have people in the 'west' they can get along with).

Clash of civilizations, 'west' against 'muslims' ? My ass, that Bush-administration dog Huntington didn't anticipate that he'd get the distribution wrong.

[Jonathan Ingram]

Oh BTW, now that McCarthyism is back, can someone post the phone number where I am supposed to report commies?

I propose we shall start by reporting Xyga. It's highly suspicious that such an impassioned supporter of Western values, civilized society, ponies and rainbows, would have in his signature a quotation by Antonio Gramsci, founder of the Communist Party of Italy, chief totalitarian ideologist, enemy of bourgeois parliamentarism, private entrepreneurship and all the other fundamental elements of democracy so dear to Xyga's heart.

[quash]

And now news flash for those about a decade years late! Putin's pouring money into every European far-right, religious fundamentalist, anti-EU parties and organizations he can.

So following the money is okay when the other side does it, but pointing out the literal billions Hillary's received from Saban, Soros, et al is somehow not a valid cause for concern?

I don't doubt Putin is taking advantage of an opportunity, but in his position, anyone would do the same. And, frankly, the last thing I'd be concerned about right now are those dangerous right wingers: police in your country are on fucking strike over how little the government does to help them tame the crime infested areas inhabited by "refugees".

A mafia state, yes, because 'Murica's typical shady schemes to sneak their tentacles onto what Russia consider their turf (georgia, ukraine, syria, plus whatever ex-ussr territory) basically had the same effect as stepping on a psycho mafia boss's shiny shoe: he will make you compensate by beating the shit out of you, rape your daughter, burn your entire neighborhood, and eat your cat.

This seems like sound reasoning until you realize that the retaliation from Russia has been little to none. They weren't officially involved in Syria until last year, and it was the US that broke the ceasefire which prompted Russia to respond viciously.

Nothing astonishes me quite like the complete lack of foresight between the White House and the State Department. They constantly try to call Putin's bluff and fail spectacularly time and time again. They basically never factored in that Putin may actually not be bluffing all the way up to last year, when they finally tried baiting him into responding by trying to pin the blame for the downed Russian jet on Turkey. But Putin has seen more than a few false flags in his day, knew better than to fall for such an obvious ploy, and, once again, the US came out looking foolish after Erdogan used the "coup" as an excuse to start warming up to Putin.

Anyone who knows anything about the current state of affairs sees the writing on the wall: Hillary will continue to call bluffs that aren't there. If you assume she doesn't want a nuclear war, her entire strategy in Syria depends on Russia backing down from a no fly zone.

For fucks sake, when even the goddamn Phillipines might be flipping the tables on us, maybe it's time we took a look at what we're doing and whether or not it's worth the gamble.

I personally have a stake in this because I don't want these retards making decisions for a moment longer than they're already slated to be, but I also fail to see any benefit of provoking Russia when they do not pose an existential threat to the US otherwise.

[BryanM]

Sweet bejesus, I wake up to see Correct the Record surging up my poll. They must be digging deep in the tailend of this thing.

It's so invasive. /r/politics is unreadable thanks to them. Makes me a little afraid of how much more work they're going to put into controlling the internet in the future.

Trump's sheepdogging for Hillary has been crazily effective. I don't think North Carolina has voted for a democrat since way back in the days we believed in unmaterialism and burned people we didn't like to death as witches.

how could he be allowed to say it's all a sham? People might actually believe it

He can say it because it's true, and in a dictatorship you have to let the peasants still feel like there's hope.

He can say it because it doesn't matter, because he gave them "grab'em by the pussy", and "universal healthcare sucks" and "wages are too high".

Wrestling skits have gotten pretty meta as the audience has grown up and wised up over the years, ya know.

[quash]

Actually, it's a rogue Putin cell attempting reverse psychology ballot stuffing.

Don't you watch the news? American elections are only prone to rigging by Russians, who can hack the voting machines we're insistent on keeping for some reason.

[Opus131]

Hahaha, Micheal Moore endorses Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADHLsECWxY

But the shill media is already in shill mode:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mic ... d0b157df13

I eagerly await to see how all the left-wing sophists here are going to spin this to be anything than what it is.

[Xyga]

Oh BTW, now that McCarthyism is back, can someone post the phone number where I am supposed to report commies?

I propose we shall start by reporting Xyga. It's highly suspicious that such an impassioned supporter of Western values, civilized society, ponies and rainbows, would have in his signature a quotation by Antonio Gramsci, founder of the Communist Party of Italy, chief totalitarian ideologist, enemy of bourgeois parliamentarism, private entrepreneurship and all the other fundamental elements of democracy so dear to Xyga's heart.

And of course you miss on purpose that's a rerouted quote to joke about the video games market.

[BryanM]

anything than what it is.

Donald Trump winning a primary for himself and the democratic primary for Hillary by pretending to be Racist Bernie Sanders, then handing the football to Hillary when the real election starts?

We know that, Opus. We know.

[Xyga]

And now news flash for those about a decade years late! Putin's pouring money into every European far-right, religious fundamentalist, anti-EU parties and organizations he can.

So following the money is okay when the other side does it, but pointing out the literal billions Hillary's received from Saban, Soros, et al is somehow not a valid cause for concern?

Since when election candidates haven't been receiving money from private support ? That's perfectly normal, in particular in the US where they don't even make efforts to hide the fact, but of course it's a plot ! it's called politics. Anyone who just dicovers that fact today is just a kid.

Problem ? Your master Putin is financing flat-out fucking nazis/fascists, and that makes a whole world of differences. He even dare call others nazis, typical Russian tactics: 'all the shit you do yourself, blame your enemy for it! even if it's fake that will confuse a lot of them for a period lololol'.

The idea at the base of the EU was precisely to never again fall into the fascist/nazism Hell, and Russia is precisely doing everything they can to destroy our efforts, the values we've carried, everything we've built to finally say goodbye to that shitty past.

I don't doubt Putin is taking advantage of an opportunity, but in his position, anyone would do the same. And, frankly, the last thing I'd be concerned about right now are those dangerous right wingers: police in your country are on fucking strike over how little the government does to help them tame the crime infested areas inhabited by "refugees".

And oh just by pure coincidence those cops's on strike spokeperson happened to be a member of the FN, the far-right party who receives millions from Russia.
Just before that the 'manif pour tous' christian fundamentalist movement also went on demonstration, movent that again totally by coincidence also receives support from Russia, and is so admired there that local right-wing activists stole their logo.
And all that....just days after Hollande pissed off Putin !
Quite a lot of coincidences linked to Russian money wouldn't you say ?

A mafia state, yes, because 'Murica's typical shady schemes to sneak their tentacles onto what Russia consider their turf (georgia, ukraine, syria, plus whatever ex-ussr territory) basically had the same effect as stepping on a psycho mafia boss's shiny shoe: he will make you compensate by beating the shit out of you, rape your daughter, burn your entire neighborhood, and eat your cat.

This seems like sound reasoning until you realize that the retaliation from Russia has been little to none. They weren't officially involved in Syria until last year, and it was the US that broke the ceasefire which prompted Russia to respond viciously.

Nothing astonishes me quite like the complete lack of foresight between the White House and the State Department. They constantly try to call Putin's bluff and fail spectacularly time and time again. They basically never factored in that Putin may actually not be bluffing all the way up to last year, when they finally tried baiting him into responding by trying to pin the blame for the downed Russian jet on Turkey. But Putin has seen more than a few false flags in his day, knew better than to fall for such an obvious ploy, and, once again, the US came out looking foolish after Erdogan used the "coup" as an excuse to start warming up to Putin.

Anyone who knows anything about the current state of affairs sees the writing on the wall: Hillary will continue to call bluffs that aren't there. If you assume she doesn't want a nuclear war, her entire strategy in Syria depends on Russia backing down from a no fly zone.

For fucks sake, when even the goddamn Phillipines might be flipping the tables on us, maybe it's time we took a look at what we're doing and whether or not it's worth the gamble.

I personally have a stake in this because I don't want these retards making decisions for a moment longer than they're already slated to be, but I also fail to see any benefit of provoking Russia when they do not pose an existential threat to the US otherwise.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
yet another paragraph of Putin cock-sucking. And you guys read that ridiculous shit and still don't believe he's working for them ?
This is glorious.

[Jonathan Ingram]

And of course you miss on purpose that's a rerouted quote to joke about the video games market.

That's about as good an excuse as saying that you use Das Kapital strictly as a doorstop. A decent person of firm democratic convictions has no business prowling about the places with those kinds of quotes, let alone putting them on display and thus indirectly aiding in the promotion of the despicable undemocratic views held by their authors.

[Xyga]

@Bryan posting a Pinochet photo earlier: That's decades ago Bryan, I'm talking about today and how Russia's vendetta helping neo-fascism/nazism rise within the EU and US could fucking destroy both (and most of the world along).
I'm not here to play the history critic, all countries and organizations have had their ups and downs, done both good things and uforgivable crimes, but again I'm talking about the current situation.
If you want to know I didn't have anything against Russia before this all escalated around the time of the Ukraine crisis and how I've realized how bad the relationship with them was, how they reacted and how far that country was ready to go in retaliation, and seeing them progressively going fucking way overboard, turning themselves into the primary menace for everyone.

And of course you miss on purpose that's a rerouted quote to joke about the video games market.

That's about as good an excuse as saying that you use Das Kapital strictly as a doorstop. A decent person of firm democratic convictions has no business prowling about the places with those kinds of quotes, let alone putting them on display and thus indirectly aiding in the promotion of the despicable undemocratic views held by their authors.

Lol, I've always vomited commies as much as nazis, and your attempt at a moralist tirade for a joke sig is hilarious after the insane amount disgusting extremist/far-right opinions this thread has been filled with.
What, you feel offended because you're Russian ? It's okay to have craptons of 'anti-west' shitposts mixed with all that nazi shitposts, but you can't deal with criticism against your nice and friendly country ? What'd you expect ?

[BryanM]

It's not decades ago, we still support extreme conservatives that sell out their country in a heartbeat still today.

Just didn't want to get sidetracked into the wonderful world of Putin apologists and Bank apologists; everything is hopeless, fuck hope, let's enjoy the end of this season's WWF match and see if Democrats win the senate in an asspull despite Hillary's every effort to not do so.