OSSC (DIY video digitizer & scandoubler)

[Bahn Yuki]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFK_Qdb ... e=youtu.be

For those N64 fans out there who are curious how it looks...

[Sevencharged]

Hi, just registered because I'm very interested in this thing.

People keep mentioning SNES compatibility as a sore spot for the OSSC, which has me a bit concerned as I probably play more SNES than anything else. Is there a way to test beforehand if my TV is going to work with it, or is it just luck of the draw? It's not on the compatibility list; it's some no-name Japanese thing that I got for free. Plugging the SNES directly into the TV works, it just looks terrible because it thinks it's 480i.

Also, I'm sitting at a rather high 1875 on the waiting list. Realistically, am I looking at a couple months or like a year+ here? If it's the latter I might just get a Framemeister for now, and maybe pick up an OSSC down the road.

[BuckoA51]

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 350 or under you should have got an invitation now, if not, contact me.

[pyrotek85]

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 350 or under you should have got an invitation now, if not, contact me.

How is it that you check your number exactly?

[xadox]

I can not find the "NEC E" for my Harmony.
I have an older Remote 555 which uses the older Software.

Is there maybe any other compatible model usable for the Harmony?

[neorichieb1971]

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 350 or under you should have got an invitation now, if not, contact me.

How is it that you check your number exactly?

Not sure myself. But the URL of my subscription has 1687 in it.

[Mantrox]

I can not find the "NEC E" for my Harmony.
I have an older Remote 555 which uses the older Software.

Is there maybe any other compatible model usable for the Harmony?

Try to choose any NEC TV model you can first.
The NEC "E" on the tutorial, was a random letter i chose to advance the wizard.

[Avrel]

I can not find the "NEC E" for my Harmony.
I have an older Remote 555 which uses the older Software.

Is there maybe any other compatible model usable for the Harmony?

I have a 525 and I use the NECRC-1001E. It works for me

[plasticxo]

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 350 or under you should have got an invitation now, if not, contact me.

How is it that you check your number exactly?

Not sure myself. But the URL of my subscription has 1687 in it.

Here is the link to know how to check one's position in the list.

https://www.videogameperfection.com/for ... your-spot/

[neorichieb1971]

Only 1000+ to go.

[CobraKing]

Hi, just registered because I'm very interested in this thing.

People keep mentioning SNES compatibility as a sore spot for the OSSC, which has me a bit concerned as I probably play more SNES than anything else. Is there a way to test beforehand if my TV is going to work with it, or is it just luck of the draw? It's not on the compatibility list; it's some no-name Japanese thing that I got for free. Plugging the SNES directly into the TV works, it just looks terrible because it thinks it's 480i.

Also, I'm sitting at a rather high 1875 on the waiting list. Realistically, am I looking at a couple months or like a year+ here? If it's the latter I might just get a Framemeister for now, and maybe pick up an OSSC down the road.

You are at least 6 months to a year away unless they ramp up production of these units. BuckoA51 mentioned running into some potential issues with importing subsequent batches after this run of 500, but I hope he resolved that.

[xadox]

Try to choose any NEC TV model you can first.
The NEC "E" on the tutorial, was a random letter i chose to advance the wizard.

I have a 525 and I use the NECRC-1001E. It works for me

Thx for the fast feedback!
I will try if the OSSC gets delivered

[Sevencharged]

You are at least 6 months to a year away unless they ramp up production of these units. BuckoA51 mentioned running into some potential issues with importing subsequent batches after this run of 500, but I hope he resolved that.

Thanks. I guess I'll have to think about it then.

[Bahn Yuki]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Vizio d40u-d1, but retrorgb was saying he was getting 2.5 frames of lag from the OSSC in line triple mode. Latency is probably the biggest determining factor in what display I'm going to buy. Has anyone tried running like triple into a DVDO scaler and outputting 1080p into this set? Are we seeing the same type of latency? I'm hoping maybe the 2.5 frames will reduce when trying to scale 1080p vs 720p.

I have one of the D50u-d1 2016 Vizio panels. I have tested the display for lag using my Leo Bodnar devices and the Dreamcast 240p test suite microphone lag test.

The panel has only input suitable for gaming. In game mode without motion strobing, the high speed HDMI port reports 13.7ms at 1080p and 13.8ms lag at 720p. The Vizio internal OEM scaler handles 720p in a microsecond. These are Leo Bodnar results.

The lowest possible lag on all other HDMI inputs is 64ms (in game mode).

I tested the Vizio's component in by chaining the Dreamcast through the DVDO. Component is about 4 frames of lag. The Dreamcast 240p test suite microphone lag test has some room for error, but it consistently reported 66.6ms of lag.

The panel has one great HDMI input, everything else is garbage for gaming.

The Vizio does not support 4:4:4 color. You will probably want to pair the display with an HDMI switcher and some other video processing equipment.

Hope this helps.

Forgot to mention with the Vizio you rant to keep backlight at 10(max:. Vizio's own CTO Matt McRae said that it could reduce latency by up to 10ms. Be interesting to see what the results on component input if that's the case.



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[atheistgod1999]

I got a cool idea that sounds good in my brain, but I'm not sure is possible:

Why not make a display with OLEDs or something that actually emulates a CRT? Like, have tons of wires connecting different OLEDs, and have something read and convert the sync (which would already be separated to H and V, like a real CRT) to signals a computer that sets up the virtual scanlines? Like, have the computer separate the rows into respective scanlines, with how many there in are in each depending on how many there are.

Then, for each virtual scanline, the thing would quickly open and close connections to small spots of OLEDs, from left to right, at a speed depending on the horizontal frequency. These connections would have the analog RGB signal flow to the OLEDs, lighting them up like phosphors.

If the sync can be digitized and the rows and horizontal refresh can be set up before the retrace, I don't see why this couldn't be done. This could work with fucking light gun games.

[tacoguy64]

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 350 or under you should have got an invitation now, if not, contact me.

I think I got like 560 or something. I know you got 500 units but whats the cut off number? Am I safe to get one from this batch?

[rtw]

I got a cool idea that sounds good in my brain, but I'm not sure is possible:

Why not make a display with OLEDs or something that actually emulates a CRT? Like, have tons of wires connecting different OLEDs, and have something read and convert the sync (which would already be separated to H and V, like a real CRT) to signals a computer that sets up the virtual scanlines? Like, have the computer separate the rows into respective scanlines, with how many there in are in each depending on how many there are.

Then, for each virtual scanline, the thing would quickly open and close connections to small spots of OLEDs, from left to right, at a speed depending on the horizontal frequency. These connections would have the analog RGB signal flow to the OLEDs, lighting them up like phosphors.

If the sync can be digitized and the rows and horizontal refresh can be set up before the retrace, I don't see why this couldn't be done. This could work with fucking light gun games.

I have also been playing with this idea, my initial thought were to use RGB leds but the current draw would be very high.
With OLED the current drain is a lot lower, we could even add real scanlines

[BuckoA51]

I think I got like 560 or something. I know you got 500 units but whats the cut off number? Am I safe to get one from this batch?

At 560 you will definitely get one this time. Uptake has been slower this time than with the first 100 so I actually expect to get at least into the 800s.

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 408 or under you should have got one, if not, contact me and I'll look into it.

[BuckoA51]

You are at least 6 months to a year away unless they ramp up production of these units. BuckoA51 mentioned running into some potential issues with importing subsequent batches after this run of 500, but I hope he resolved that.

We need to VAT register after this batch. I doubt it will be that long since not everyone that reserves actually goes ahead and buys a unit.

[Einhandr]

I think I got like 560 or something. I know you got 500 units but whats the cut off number? Am I safe to get one from this batch?

At 560 you will definitely get one this time. Uptake has been slower this time than with the first 100 so I actually expect to get at least into the 800s.

More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 408 or under you should have got one, if not, contact me and I'll look into it.

Wow that's surprising. I'm in the high 700's (barely 800 actually) and figured it would take a lot of luck to make it into this batch. I guess there is hope for me after all. Time to make sure my finds are in order! Is the price still sitting at 150GBP for the assembled kit?

[Zellix]

I'd just like to say thanks to video game perfection for the quick delivery. Ordered on Sunday and delivered today just before I was leaving for work (UK of course).

Can't wait to open it and have a play!
Unfortunately I was rushing when I ordered it just before bed and forgot to add the remote and PSU before checkout

[lettuce]

Any update on the DVI audio module?

[orange808]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Vizio d40u-d1, but retrorgb was saying he was getting 2.5 frames of lag from the OSSC in line triple mode. Latency is probably the biggest determining factor in what display I'm going to buy. Has anyone tried running like triple into a DVDO scaler and outputting 1080p into this set? Are we seeing the same type of latency? I'm hoping maybe the 2.5 frames will reduce when trying to scale 1080p vs 720p.

I have one of the D50u-d1 2016 Vizio panels. I have tested the display for lag using my Leo Bodnar devices and the Dreamcast 240p test suite microphone lag test.

The panel has only input suitable for gaming. In game mode without motion strobing, the high speed HDMI port reports 13.7ms at 1080p and 13.8ms lag at 720p. The Vizio internal OEM scaler handles 720p in a microsecond. These are Leo Bodnar results.

The lowest possible lag on all other HDMI inputs is 64ms (in game mode).

I tested the Vizio's component in by chaining the Dreamcast through the DVDO. Component is about 4 frames of lag. The Dreamcast 240p test suite microphone lag test has some room for error, but it consistently reported 66.6ms of lag.

The panel has one great HDMI input, everything else is garbage for gaming.

The Vizio does not support 4:4:4 color. You will probably want to pair the display with an HDMI switcher and some other video processing equipment.

Hope this helps.

Forgot to mention with the Vizio you rant to keep backlight at 10(max:. Vizio's own CTO Matt McRae said that it could reduce latency by up to 10ms. Be interesting to see what the results on component input if that's the case.



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Tested. The backlight does not affect lag results.

However, turning up the backlight does make blur, ghosting, and crosstalk more prevalent. So, I can't say it doesn't do anything. (It just doesn't do anything good.)

[Elrinth]

I keep getting Invalid image when I try to update the firmware. I tried both 0.72 and 0.73. (I'm at 0.71 atm)
I am using Win32 Disk Imager.
Edit:
Tried two other disk imager tools. Then I switch to different SD card and it worked just fine. So seems sd card is not so well
In the end I used: USB Image Tool
Very good tool! I much prefer it over the Win32 Disk Imager.

[NormalFish]

Looking like I'll be able to get in on this batch so I figured I'd ask for clarification on a couple things:

is 480p still passthrough, or has doubling been implemented?

RGsB from a PS2 should work with any RGB SCART cable, right?

Does chaining it with an XRGB Mini (Console -> OSSC -> Mini -> Monitor) with HDMI passthrough settings (and 480i deinterlacing) have any major issues? For example, does the Mini add lag even if I feed it a 480p signal and ask it to pass it through unprocessed? Or perhaps does the mini not take the OSSC's 480i/line tripling via HDMI for whatever reason?

[BuckoA51]

Is the price still sitting at 150GBP for the assembled kit?

£152 thanks to Brexit, but I fixed the price of remotes and PSUs as they were all paid up previously.

is 480p still passthrough, or has doubling been implemented?

Doubling is in, but isn't compatible with that many displays.

RGsB from a PS2 should work with any RGB SCART cable, right?

Yes.

Does chaining it with an XRGB Mini (Console -> OSSC -> Mini -> Monitor) with HDMI passthrough settings (and 480i deinterlacing) have any major issues?

I'm not 100% but the mini's passthrough doesn't seem to be a pure passthrough. It might change colourspace but don't quote me.

Remember there's an official forum now for questions like this, I may miss them in the noise of this thread. ( https://www.videogameperfection.com/forums/forum/ossc/ )

[BuckoA51]

More e-mail invites again this morning, if you're number 463 or under and haven't had one, get in touch.

[BuckoA51]

You know the drill by now More OSSC invites just went out, if you're number 518 or under you should have got one, if not, contact me!

[bonzo.bits]

Finally got my DIY kit assembled and working correctly. This thing is sweet.

Of Snes, Genesis, SMS and Saturn tested so far, only had problems with Saturn losing picture (fixed by turning the sync LPF to 10MHz) and some glitchy sprites in Super Ghouls 'n' Ghosts (unresolved atm) - SMW, SMK and and F-Zero did not have issues.

To my eyes, the 4:4:4 makes the colour reproduction a lot better on my Panasonic plasma, compared to the Framemeister. But the sharpness isn't quite there, probably not helped by the fact my set can't handle line-triple mode.

But goddamn, the colours! So much 'pop' and depth added to the visuals.

[Thomago]

OSSC impressions: http://imgur.com/a/8T2h9