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Thor: Ragnarok

Lived up to the hype of being entertaining, which is a feat rarely managed in the MCU - yet entertaining it was. This and Spider-Man: Homecoming are the two most entertaining new popcorn movies I've seen in a while, and certainly two of the best for the fatigued and dull MCU as a whole.

To put it into perspective, this was more 'entertaining' than Dr Strange, less boring and drawn out than Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and like night and day when compared with Avengers 2's moving wallpaper fiasco.

That said, it was very much throwaway entertainment and I'd never watch it twice. It wasn't a movie on par with something like Star Wars because it has zero drama and the characters are literally imbued with what you could call a flicker of personality. The rest is carried by the action and the beat of the humour, which while initially feels rather forced and unfunny, eventually meets a decent arc and falls into place. But what's here is good enough to kill two hours on without getting tired and wanting it to end.

What's done right is the angle. The director has freshened it up considerably and this feels like what comic book movie should feel like - a comic book. When I used to read Marvel comics they had a lot of offshoots where fun stuff would actually happen. I remember a particularly fun Hulk/Thing team up graphic novel with similar adventure and humour.

Additionally, the 80s throwback was delicious, and Marvel are really drawing from the right pot (finally) with this. I thought SP:Homecoming's obvious 80s brat pack school daze vibe was already a step in the right direction (lifting everything from the soundtrack to Ferris Bueller nods all the way through) and this apes the conventions of the era even harder. It's not just the technicolour logo but the synthesised action score and general upbeat craziness of it all. It works well.

And this is mathematically about 10000 times better than the original Thor movie, which, if you've seen it, condolences. It's one of the worst movies ever made and only worth watching to laugh at. Well done again Kenneth Branagh, your technique is considerably surprising, and it was thanks to this dire catastrophe I avoided the sequel like the plague. Thankfully Ragnarok is nothing at all like its predecessors, because it's, well, entertaining.

One thing that didn't sit so well with me is the praise around Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie. She started off well with a good entrance, but when it becomes apparent how limited the actor's ability is she really starts to grate. Thompson, frankly, is a very average actor, her entire character built around a one-note cliche tomboy affair which involves a dead stare and a big pout she refuses to let subside. Now I heard that Thompson played Valkyrie like an LGBT character, and if so that's a total failure too. She was plenty fuckable and was far far less LGBT than Cate Blanchett, who conversely gave a superb performance and would make a very believable lesbian. Thompson was frankly irritating by about halfway through, mainly because she uses 'smug' as some kind of method performance; and smug gets irritating very quickly when there's nothing else going on.

Which is why it makes me laugh heartily to find professional journalists writing articles like this joke of a feminist power punch from Hunter Harris:

I Didn’t Give a Sh*t About Marvel Movies Till I Saw Tessa Thompson in Thor: Ragnarok

Well done Harris for failing to note all of the shortcomings of the actor, including ability to act, diversity of acting repertoire, complete lack of feminist slacks, and general irritating persona. If all you got out of Thor: Ragnarok was that Tessa Thompson was the best thing in it, stop watching movies and shoot yourself in the face.

Otherwise, recommended!

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Zen wrote:Who are you and what have you done with Skykid :wink:
Every now and again a bit of praise seeps out of somewhere. I agree though, its a much improved Marvel movie, but still it lacks a certain something. I don't think you can get that certain something if your aiming at a kid demographic though. They are not going to spend this kind of money on a movie that plays out like Deadpool. Which is really a shame because we need more Deadpool type movies with $200 million dollar budgets.
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I don't think we do actually. Deadpool was fine within its budget and honestly pretty tired by the last act. I'm not exactly clamoring for a sequel, but it was an ok diversion one time.

Also praise doesn't seep out unless it's actually warranted. Ragnarok earned its bit, but as I said it's not something I'd ever watch twice.
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As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
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emphatic wrote:As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
It could be worse. My friends duaghter is I think 8 now and all she wants to watch is Trolls 2... like multiple times a day.
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Skykid wrote:the original Thor movie, which, if you've seen it, condolences. It's one of the worst movies ever made and only worth watching to laugh at.
Worse than the Hulk made for TV movie with the cheesy Thor?

I just watched The Kid with Charlie Chaplin. Very nice movie. It was interesting seeing Jackie Coogan (Uncle Fester from the original Addams Family TV series) as a kid, who was great in this.
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GaijinPunch wrote:
emphatic wrote:As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
It could be worse. My friends duaghter is I think 8 now and all she wants to watch is Trolls 2... like multiple times a day.
At first I read "Troll 2", like the movie from 1990. ;)
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emphatic wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
emphatic wrote:As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
It could be worse. My friends duaghter is I think 8 now and all she wants to watch is Trolls 2... like multiple times a day.
At first I read "Troll 2", like the movie from 1990. ;)
I'm wondering which movie he meant, lol. There is only one DreamWorks Trolls movie.
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BrianC wrote:
Skykid wrote:the original Thor movie, which, if you've seen it, condolences. It's one of the worst movies ever made and only worth watching to laugh at.
Worse than the Hulk made for TV movie with the cheesy Thor?
Much worse.
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emphatic wrote:As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
Plural?! Say no more.
emphatic gets a gilded free pass on his Thor tolerance. He does not need me to tell him, that what remains of his existence now, is one of mere "pet" status. Albeit, one who can do useful tricks (i.e "jobs") :wink:
Skykid wrote:Also praise doesn't seep out unless it's actually warranted. Ragnarok earned its bit, but as I said it's not something I'd ever watch twice.
I guess my question is why you would even watch it once?
I'm not being a smartass here, I genuinely don't get it.

Fist off, I have not seen the film. I have seen the trailer (God save us all)
Second, I enjoyed your review. Particularly the calling out of a clueless hack who not only virtue signalled like a champ but was doing so in turn and full Pavlovian response,
to Disney's virtue signalling cringe of black, female, lesbian, differently-abled otherkin (ok. I made the last two up).
Bonus point for entreating him to shoot himself in the face :lol:

A black Valkyrie? Taika Waititi (also known as Taika Cohen, apparently) really stuck it to whitey there. Out of deference for being in the Film thread, I will say no more.

As you correctly point out, they had a far more believable lesbian in the divine miss Blanchet.

All that being said, isn't this direction within the industry something that you usually decry?
I mean, this is some shark-jumping, ADHD, lowest common denominator bullshit right here. Worse, its just plain bad.
Jeff Goldblum and "Thor" cracking modern phrased humour?
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Mark Ruffalo, who brings rabid SJW cuckery to psychotically new levels . . . . is the fucking Hulk!

Also; OI! Taika Waititi! Keep your filthy hands off the Zep, you hipster, Kiwi cunt!
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Child´s Play 3:
This one was boring...Mancini running out of ideas.

Bride of Chucky:
Mancini back with a whole lot of great ideas. This movie is fun as hell.
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Zen wrote:
emphatic wrote:As someone with daughters nearing adolescence, I have had to "enjoy" Thor (he does look exciting without his shirt) more times than you would believe, and I have to admit, it's growing on me. I was embarrassed by it when watching it in the cinema, cringed hard at the "oh... my... god..." line etc. Now I can laugh with it rather than at it.
Plural?! Say no more.
emphatic gets a gilded free pass on his Thor tolerance.
He doesn't. He's a big MCU fan and tends to love all of it!
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Skykid wrote:Also praise doesn't seep out unless it's actually warranted. Ragnarok earned its bit, but as I said it's not something I'd ever watch twice.
I guess my question is why you would even watch it once?
I'm not being a smartass here, I genuinely don't get it.
In China movie choice is limited. I avoid most, but end up seeing some guaranteed dreck sometimes just because there's nothing else to watch and someone fancies going to see a movie. While I'll resolutely refuse something like Wonder Woman, I can be swayed for Guardians or something that is (apparently) better than what's been before. In this case, Thor.

Believe me if we actually got good movies to watch, I'd go see them instead. We did get Blade Runner 2049, although Chinese people absolutely hated it.

Second, I enjoyed your review. Particularly the calling out of a clueless hack who not only virtue signalled like a champ but was doing so in turn and full Pavlovian response,
to Disney's virtue signalling cringe of black, female, lesbian, differently-abled otherkin (ok. I made the last two up).
Bonus point for entreating him to shoot himself in the face :lol:
Pretty sure it's a woman. But the most offensive thing about that review isn't that it's a clueless hack virtue signalling for womyn everywhere, but that said hack couldn't actually see the massively limited abilities of the individual she was praising. Feminist shtick aside, the girl wasn't very good.
Also; OI! Taika Waititi! Keep your filthy hands off the Zep, you hipster, Kiwi cunt!
Not sure if racism, but the guy made a half decent throwaway Hollywood flick. I heard some of his New Zealand movies are actually really good too.
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Zen wrote:Who are you and what have you done with Skykid :wink:
I think he's become someone that will only judge a movie after seeing it.
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GaijinPunch wrote:
Zen wrote:Who are you and what have you done with Skykid :wink:
I think he's become someone that will only judge a movie after seeing it.
God Damn! GP throwing dat shade :lol:

Does it transform from shit to shinola if watched?

And dont be sayin those things about Skykid. He still has the ability to recognise crap before he steps in it. Its called taste, by the way :wink:

But maybe you're right. I'll take gbaplayer's recommendation, watch Bride of Chucky and report back.
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I love most of the MCU, but initially had a hard time with the Thor movies. Now I think they're pretty funny. Except Thor 3, which is very funny.
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Zen wrote: Does it transform from shit to shinola if watched?

Rarely.

It's not impossible though. Just unlikely.
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"Bidding Heats On Quentin Tarantino Script As David Heyman Boards As Producer"
http://deadline.com/2017/11/quentin-tar ... 202208169/
Its definitely going ahead, then.

So, Tarantio does Manson. (I don't know if this is the thread for it. Please move if of topic.)

Though I would consider Pulp Fiction (1994) one of the great film/ cinema events of the 90's, I am not a Trantino fan.
Dreading what he will do with one of the defining cultural moments at the end of the 60's.
I predict more exploitative, degenerate pulp in a critic friendly, hipster wrapper, ticking all the right financial and "current year" boxes.
And if its true "Tarantino", the viewer will inexplicably come out of the film magically knowing less than when they went in.

And the "score"? . . . . I shudder

What are the thoughts of Tarantino fans, haters, those with interest in the subject matter etc., about Quentin's latest?
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i hate tarantino films(over acted,try to hard to be cool) and manson but i am pretty well versed in the manson saga/conspiracy so i guess i will keep an eye on this.
pulp fiction is shit like john woo films(protip this statement is how to make this forum hate your opinions on movies.especially the most opinionated sheep :lol: )

this film is probably the best one on manson just for entertainment purposes and vibes
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Two working class dudes, one black one white, just baked a tray of ten cookies together.

An oligarch walks in and grabs nine cookies for himself.

Then he says to the white dude "Watch out for that black dude, he wants a piece of your cookie!"
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Mischief Maker wrote:Obligatory.
No, it isn't.


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Zen wrote:"Bidding Heats On Quentin Tarantino Script As David Heyman Boards As Producer"
http://deadline.com/2017/11/quentin-tar ... 202208169/
Its definitely going ahead, then.

So, Tarantio does Manson. (I don't know if this is the thread for it. Please move if of topic.)

Though I would consider Pulp Fiction (1994) one of the great film/ cinema events of the 90's, I am not a Trantino fan.
Dreading what he will do with one of the defining cultural moments at the end of the 60's.
I predict more exploitative, degenerate pulp in a critic friendly, hipster wrapper, ticking all the right financial and "current year" boxes.
And if its true "Tarantino", the viewer will inexplicably come out of the film magically knowing less than when they went in.

And the "score"? . . . . I shudder

What are the thoughts of Tarantino fans, haters, those with interest in the subject matter etc., about Quentin's latest?

No idea how something like this would turn out under Tarantino, but then I don't really care to guess. I thought Django sounded like odd material for Tarantino and it turned out to be one of the best original movies of the decade.

Personally I think Tarantino is easily one of the best writer/directors working today, and if I'm wrong feel free to name his competition. I didn't actually like Hateful Eight much - I feel like it's his weakest movie and the material got away from him: overwritten, overlong, rambling and unnecessarily heavy handed in places. It was well made but didn't quite work.

On the whole though I thank the gods that Tarantino exists and has been as prolific as he has been. I'm genuinely concerned that Hateful Eight's quality was affected by the death of Sally Menke, but I hope he proves me wrong with whatever he does next.
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Everything John Woo post 93 is pretty much garbage, and it's arguable how good his Hong Kong movies actually were: cliche themes, characters, duff dialogue, dull, dragging scenes. But his gun work is a thing of artistic composition still unmatched, and his virtuoso use of cheap cameras and less sophisticated rigs is a marvel. Hard Boiled, all the filler aside, is a beautiful thing.
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Hard Boiled is fantastic, need to watch it again soon. I remember when there were rumours that Quentin Tarantino was gonna do his take on Modesty Blaise. Imagine if he'd gotten Monica Belucci to do it, with someone like Daniel Craig as Willie Garwin?
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Skykid wrote:No idea how something like this would turn out under Tarantino, but then I don't really care to guess.
I'm pretty certain already :wink: ;
I. There is a very strong chance that he is only using Manson as an angle, a lurid and cynical marketing hook to sell his project.
2. If he does have anything to say, it will not be worth hearing but will be celebrated as some the most savvy, coolest cinema ever!
(btw, Inherent Vice (2014) handles it well and perhaps, does a better "Tarantino" of it than the man himself will muster)
Skykid wrote: I thought Django sounded like odd material for Tarantino and it turned out to be one of the best original movies of the decade.
Really? It was apparent to me that it was right up Quentin's alley and equally apparent exactly what he would do with it. And he did. And I gave it a pass.
I have no doubt that it is a marvellously entertaining film though.
Skykid wrote:Personally I think Tarantino is easily one of the best writer/directors working today, and if I'm wrong feel free to name his competition.
Paul Thomas Anderson, Scorsese, the Coen brothers?
You wont get much argument from me is this regard, though. Then again, being one of the best runners in a one legged race, is not much praise at all. Maybe that's a bit unfair. He does have talent. How he uses it is another matter altogether.
Exploitation and Pulp are elevated by his writing/directing but it is what it is.
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Zen wrote:
Skykid wrote:No idea how something like this would turn out under Tarantino, but then I don't really care to guess.
I'm pretty certain already :wink: ;
I. There is a very strong chance that he is only using Manson as an angle, a lurid and cynical marketing hook to sell his project.
2. If he does have anything to say, it will not be worth hearing but will be celebrated as some the most savvy, coolest cinema ever!
Ah you're one of those guys. I've met you a few times.

"Tarantino-esque" was quickly coined in the late 90s to describe mostly awful movies attempting to ape the style pioneered by Tarantino in Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction; that being a pop culture mashup of bygone cinema reworked with a dazzling script and a freshly violent razor edge. I personally don't decry anyone for being influenced or unashamedly using influences if the end result is worthwhile, since all creative work is borne from previous influences. And while detractors tend to find Tarantino borrows too heavily from past material and then tries to make it 'edgy and cool', I call total bullshit on that. The man has done his own thing beautifully and totally owns it, and probably always will. He's a superb writer/director with a huge creative talent and energy, and I'm always game to see what he'll do next. I hope he returns to form on his next project.

Really? It was apparent to me that it was right up Quentin's alley and equally apparent exactly what he would do with it. And he did. And I gave it a pass.
I have no doubt that it is a marvellously entertaining film though.
Oh it is. It's a near sin you haven't watched it.

When Foxx flew backwards through a splintering door firing cannon-sounding twin handguns and riddling the henchmen waiting on the other side of the wall with bullets I nearly stood up in the cinema and gave a standing ovation.
Skykid wrote:Paul Thomas Anderson, Scorsese, the Coen brothers?
All superb, they have my vote too. I don't know if I'd say any of them are better than Tarantino, but I'd happily put them all in the same very small pool of excellent directors.
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Interesting movie discussion instead of me just posting movies I saw with brief and generic descriptions?! Thanks! :wink:
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finally bought/watched Infinity Baby, which I've been wanting to see for the last few years. It's the newest Bob Byington mumblecore flick starring Nick Offerman, Megan Mullally, Kieran Culkin, Kevin Corrigan, Martin Starr, Stephen Root, Noel Wells, and Trieste Kelly Dunn (I don't really know her outside Byington's work). Basically about how stem cell research led to a bunch of babies not aging and the company responsible finding homes for the babies. Dark comedy as you might suspect with some really heavy scenes focusing on the baby. Nearly all the men are misogynist devoid of much emotion (outside of a select few) who aren't as likable as the female actresses. Surprisingly, much shorter than I would've liked (an hour 10?) but exactly what I wanted. If you've seen any of his other work you know exactly what to expect, and if you don't then imagine something very indie along the lines of the duplass brothers.
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Tootsie (1982)
I honestly preferred Robin Williams's Ms. Doubtfire, but this was a different type of comedy anyway. The acting was well done, loved Teri Garr and George Gaynes (who pretty much played Commandant Eric Lassard, which was funny as hell).

Another movie question, is Stripes with Bill Murray worth a watch?
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soprano1 wrote: is Stripes with Bill Murray worth a watch?
It really is, loved it when I was 15. I can also recommend Spies Like Us with Chase/Aykroyd if you're into military/behind enemy lines fun. It's epic.
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