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[xxx1993]

Look, I'm never gonna forgive him for what he said about Rambo: Last Blood, Terminator: Dark Fate, Star Trek: Beyond, F9, and No Time to Die. Even if he liked Top Gun: Maverick, what he did was unforgivable. His Rambo: Last Blood review can be best summed up as, "ThIs RaMbO MoViE sUcKs bEcAuSe iT's nOt lIkE tHe oThEr RaMbO mOvIeS aNd hE dOeSn'T lOoK aNyThInG lIkE RaMbO iN tHe pReViOuS fIlMs". If that's the case he might as well shit on Lethal Weapon 4 also because Riggs got rid of his mullet hair in that movie and is slightly older there. Besides, I already knew how dirty he was the minute he started attacking Terminator: Dark Fate and No Time to Die because of "woke" accusations. And what was wrong with Star Trek: Beyond? I actually enjoyed that movie and it was one of the few saving graces of such a depressing year like 2016.

[BIL]

X93 what are some of your favourite movie reviews (｀w´メ)

I can't remember any good ones but I'll post some if I do (｀w´メ)

[xxx1993]

X93 what are some of your favourite movie reviews (｀w´メ)

I can't remember any good ones but I'll post some if I do (｀w´メ)

I dunno. I've found a few amusing movie reviews, usually those from James Rolfe of Cinemassacre or several of the Nostalgia Critic reviews. At least the former tends to be more positive with movies.

[BIL]

ye Rolfe cool, he h8 Ghostbuster 2016 tho (｀w´メ)

Sounds kinda SEXISM (◎w◎;)

[Air Master Burst]

And what was wrong with Star Trek: Beyond? I actually enjoyed that movie and it was one of the few saving graces of such a depressing year like 2016.

I don't know anything about any of these movie reviews, but Star Trek has been almost universally terrible since Enterprise went off the air. Strange New Worlds has some good stuff, but it's kinda held back by trying to use a bunch of legacy characters instead of just doing a new ship and new crew and new adventures already. Just give me my commie leftist morality tales in a horny future utopia with goofy forehead prosthetics please!

The only truly good Star Trek in the past decade and a half is The Orville, which is just fantastic. Then again, I also find DS9 to be entirely too cynical for my taste, so YMMV and all that.

ETA: I feel I should go a little more in depth as to why exactly I hate the lens flare Kurtzman Star Treks, and the example that best shows this is the Kobayashi Maru test. In Star Trek 2, they tell you Kirk cheated, but leave it up to your imagination as to how.

In the old Star Trek Academy game, you could reprogram the test yourself, and the winning play was to just make the Klingon captains all respect you so much they stood down. Apparently that was how Kirk did it in the official Star Trek novels, too. Frankly, this was a baller fucking play and Starfleet was proud he found a nonviolent resolution.

In Kurtzman Star Trek, Kirk basically just types in iddqd and blows them all up like a Bangai-O special. Wake me up when this stupid droll shit is over, please.

[Mischief Maker]

I also find DS9 to be entirely too cynical for my taste.

That's because it's Babylon 5 awkwardly shoehorned into the Star Trek universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr0BVKb9Am0

If you haven't watched Babylon 5 yet, you owe it to yourself to give it a try. The first season seems like a creaky episodic show on first viewing (much better on second view where you can pick up on all the foreshadowing) then from season 2-4 it's a wild ride. Every time DS9 nervously dipped its toe in murky waters, Babylon 5 dove in headfirst. Harlan Ellison was heavily involved in the making of B5, and his darker view on the future really shows through.

Also: Evil Chekov!

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I don't know if I said it on this forum or not, but the most galling thing about Kurtzman Trek, especially Picard, is how they dig up some really deep cut characters and events that only superfans would recognize... but use them in the stupidest way possible.

Case in point, the stinger at the end of the Picard Season 3 trailer. Remember Moriarty??? The accidental AI created by the Holodeck to fulfill the request for a villain that could outsmart Data? The character whose most defining feature was his intelligence?

Well he's back... and look out! He's got a gun!!!

[Air Master Burst]

Oh dang I love me some Babylon 5, even the goofy first season with Sinclair. I don't know if I love it as much as Star Trek, but it's definitely better than DS9.

I don't know if I said it on this forum or not, but the most galling thing about Kurtzman Trek, especially Picard, is how they dig up some really deep cut characters and events that only superfans would recognize... but use them in the stupidest way possible.

Spoiler

The mommy issues flashbacks are hilariously stupid both because mental health care isn't stigmatized and is readily available to all in Picard's time, and also because his brother wasn't even mentioned.

Stupider still, they could've saved a lot of hassle in the past by just digging Data's head up from outside San Francisco.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg! That said, I did adore the episode in season 1 that was just Picard eating dinner with Riker and Troi and their adorable kid. The rest is pretty much all trash, and they did my girl 7 extra dirty.

ETA: I love how that stinger basically turned the Picard trailer into that one Futurama bit.

[neorichieb1971]

Black Adam-

Not really a fan of Dwayne Johnson but my wife likes him and I get laid more by giving her what she wants. So off we go to see Black Adam.

It wasn't too bad, the 3rd parties in the movie seem to have all their allegiences wrong and beating up the wrong people which is annoying, the movie doesn't stray from the formula. Bad guy is winning until the end and then the music starts. I guess you never saw a movie like that before? Yeah yeah, its the same as all those other movies.

My wife seemed to talk about similarities to Marvel Characters in this movie, which I Can see it. It has some funny moments and in my opinion any cheap movie theater ticket that makes you laugh even a few times is worth price of admission, not a great movie, but its worth a cheap movie theater ticket if you can get one.

The end.

[xxx1993]

ye Rolfe cool, he h8 Ghostbuster 2016 tho (｀w´メ)

Sounds kinda SEXISM (◎w◎;)

Actually, he only refused to review it.

[xxx1993]

And what was wrong with Star Trek: Beyond? I actually enjoyed that movie and it was one of the few saving graces of such a depressing year like 2016.

I don't know anything about any of these movie reviews, but Star Trek has been almost universally terrible since Enterprise went off the air. Strange New Worlds has some good stuff, but it's kinda held back by trying to use a bunch of legacy characters instead of just doing a new ship and new crew and new adventures already. Just give me my commie leftist morality tales in a horny future utopia with goofy forehead prosthetics please!

The only truly good Star Trek in the past decade and a half is The Orville, which is just fantastic. Then again, I also find DS9 to be entirely too cynical for my taste, so YMMV and all that.

ETA: I feel I should go a little more in depth as to why exactly I hate the lens flare Kurtzman Star Treks, and the example that best shows this is the Kobayashi Maru test. In Star Trek 2, they tell you Kirk cheated, but leave it up to your imagination as to how.

In the old Star Trek Academy game, you could reprogram the test yourself, and the winning play was to just make the Klingon captains all respect you so much they stood down. Apparently that was how Kirk did it in the official Star Trek novels, too. Frankly, this was a baller fucking play and Starfleet was proud he found a nonviolent resolution.

In Kurtzman Star Trek, Kirk basically just types in iddqd and blows them all up like a Bangai-O special. Wake me up when this stupid droll shit is over, please.

I have a soft spot for the modern movies, though...

[GaijinPunch]

ye Rolfe cool, he h8 Ghostbuster 2016 tho (｀w´メ)

Sounds kinda SEXISM (◎w◎;)

Actually, he only refused to review it.

I never bothered. I watched the trailer a few times, and it was entirely devoid of humor. I adore Kate McKinnon and Kristen Wiig. They have a some solid gold SNL sketches under their belts, and I still bust some favorites out when I'm partying w/ friends and we're in that mode where we just look at funny shit on Youtube. I was bummed when McKinnon signed off last season. To that end, I even like McCarthy and Jones. But fuck me that looked like a cash-in turd from the get go. If for whatever reason it was great but they were unable to cobble together an entertaining trailer, they deserve to not make their money back. Advertising matters.

woke

If you watch the reviews and actually digest them, the main argument is how shoehorning in diversity for the sake of... well.. appeasing certain audiences hurts the end product, making it predictable. 3 weeks before Obi Wan started, The Critical Drinker stated "oh, she's a diverse strong woman... in an antagonistic role. She will redeem herself". Lovely ending w/ Obi Wan telling her how she was a good person... never mind she murdered Jedi for 10 years. Great writing.

Sexism

Again, going back, in at least the few videos I saw, he shits on flat characters of both sexes. Women tend to get the short end of the stick when they are the protagonist, it would seem. When taking a dump on remakes in general (something I stand behind 99% of the time - The Thing being the one that actually worked), he argues that most modern Hollywood "strong women" are perfect, and just come in and kick ass. They have zero flaws, which hurts their arc as there is zero growth. It's a disservice to both the viewer and the actor - the best characters are flawed, at least to begin with. Some more so than others. Case in point:

[BIL]

ye Rolfe cool, he h8 Ghostbuster 2016 tho (｀w´メ)

Sounds kinda SEXISM (◎w◎;)

Actually, he only refused to review it.

Ye but all my woke friends (like Patton Oswalt who bust he wife's ghost IRL) says its because he SEXISM (｀w´メ)

[Air Master Burst]

The 2016 Ghostbusters is the only one I like besides Extreme Ghostbusters. I thought it was a lot of fun, but I also have zero nostalgia for the classic movies and I kinda hate Bill Murray, so I'm probably a bad judge of these matters.

ETA: I'm still legit shocked anyone thought 2016 was in any way worse than Ghostbusters 2. I understand the appeal of the original, but 2 was probably the least inspired theatrical sequel of the era, at least until Wayne's World 2.

ETA2: OK, I forgot about Robocop 3, but my point stands.

[GaijinPunch]

I think the current count of good things in the Ghostbusters franchise was the first film - and that's it.

[Mortificator]

Star Trek has been almost universally terrible since Enterprise went off the air.

I don't know if I said it on this forum or not, but the most galling thing about Kurtzman Trek, especially Picard, is how they dig up some really deep cut characters and events that only superfans would recognize... but use them in the stupidest way possible.

Case in point, the stinger at the end of the Picard Season 3 trailer. Remember Moriarty??? The accidental AI created by the Holodeck to fulfill the request for a villain that could outsmart Data? The character whose most defining feature was his intelligence?

Well he's back... and look out! He's got a gun!!!

Picard season one was so relentlessly, offensively stupid that I haven't even glanced at any material for seasons two and three.

Enterprise is a show where I'm so grateful to the viewers who bitched about it. It got blasted relentlessly the first couple years on the air, but guess what? The staff allowed themselves to think "maybe we're doing something wrong" and changed approach, giving us a pretty good show for the series' second half. While Picard hides in an echo chamber of fans who slobber over every empty reference and all critics are dismissed as haters. I remember one smug review saying "this is ~prestige~ television, not the corny old Trek," while Patrick Steward is disguising himself with an eyepatch and a goofy French accent for a bit that would have been too childish for The Animated Series.

Another thing is that heel protagonists can be used to great storytelling effect IF the writers understand that their behavior is shitty. A racist lead in a narrative crafted by people who understand how racism is vile is going to be presented very differently than one from dudes who think it's hunky-dory. Picard's Picard refuses competent allies out of hubris, blunders in and gets a disadvantaged group pogromed, then obliviously dances at the end because his personal problems were solved. Beyond's Kirk falls for an obvious trap, freezes, makes poor choices, gets his ship destroyed and what has to be at least a hundred of his crew killed, puts tons more people in mortal danger... then stands there in the end with a shit-eating grin accepting congratulations for ending a crisis THAT HE CAUSED. Just narcissists that the audience is supposed to think are heroes. I can't come to any conclusion other than that the writers were too dumb to comprehend their own plots.

[xxx1993]

If you watch the reviews and actually digest them, the main argument is how shoehorning in diversity for the sake of... well.. appeasing certain audiences hurts the end product, making it predictable. 3 weeks before Obi Wan started, The Critical Drinker stated "oh, she's a diverse strong woman... in an antagonistic role. She will redeem herself". Lovely ending w/ Obi Wan telling her how she was a good person... never mind she murdered Jedi for 10 years. Great writing.

Say what you will, but I still think Critical Stinker is an asshole and a pathetic excuse of a human being.

[Air Master Burst]

Enterprise is a show where I'm so grateful to the viewers who bitched about it. It got blasted relentlessly the first couple years on the air, but guess what? The staff allowed themselves to think "maybe we're doing something wrong" and changed approach, giving us a pretty good show for the series' second half.

I actually really enjoyed the first two seasons of Enterprise (when they weren't dealing with the colossal idiocy of the Suliban/Temporal Cold War bullshit), but the post-9/11 neocon fever dream that was Season 3 is some of the absolute worst Star Trek that's ever been written. I REALLY don't want to watch my Starfleet captains torturing people for information or growing sentient clones to harvest for spare body parts for the crew, thanks. Manny Cotto came on for season 4, and while the series finale is beyond terrible and insulting, the rest of season 4 was fantastic.

Picard is just fucking bad. It makes sense that Patrick Stewart would want a bunch of DRAMA for Picard so he can flex his mighty ACTING chops, but in the process they've created an entirely different character. Maybe if they'd called it like Star Trek Gaiden or something?

[BryanM]

Sentient spare parts...? Missed that one. Doesn't seem to meet basic techno communist ethical standards. You could just, grow the damn organ.... I mean here we are in 2022 the bioelectric wizards are maybe on the cusp of regrowing limbs....

Nutrek is indeed written by shallow narcissists who hate Star Trek. (Unlike the new episodes of Futurama, which'll probably continue to be written by people who actually like Star Trek.) I gave the first STD a shot and had no interest in continuing. STD's, not for me.

Like with most things, I get my info on them through RLM videos. It's like looking at the sun through a welding mask.

I think the current count of good things in the Ghostbusters franchise was the first film - and that's it.

I think it's unrealistic to think something can be all things at all times to all people. It's easier when something is fresh and basic enough to be a tutorial of sorts; from the hundreds of webnovels I've read trust me, the beginning is almost always the best part. Middles and endings are the realm of cursed fuckery. You have to use multiple POV's to keep things from going stale.

Ghostbusters 2 has some parts. New Ghostbusters 2 on the NES is fun for about 4 minutes. (With a lot more depth ala Monster Hunter, it could be a great foundation to start making a game.) That one video game with the old crew is good fanservice and has more focus on made-up paranormal bullshit that appeals to a certain fraction of the fan base.

I have to be honest though... the Ghostbusters reddit is my idea of hell. I want to talk about things like how the ghost boogers are made from a mixture using food starch that's used in Chinese restaurants, useless conversations about imaginary people (the original actress offered to play Gozer turned the part down since she felt the women in the movie were just there to be had. Considering what they did with Janine, it's hard to disagree), maybe make our own fiction or games since uh none of that was forthcoming from the franchise...

95% of the posts there is someone excited about seeing an action figure at like a Target.

....

I get they're happy the franchise is back from the grave, but still.

[Air Master Burst]

Extreme Ghostbusters was fucking dope.

My favorite Bill Murray story is how he got the original Venkman voice actor fired because he also did Garfield, and Bill didn't want people to think Venkman sounded like Garfield.

[lilmanjs]

The last 4 movies watched are
Troll 2
The most out of place scene in a movie ever goes to the somehow sexual eating of a corncob that has no place in the movie, and never is explained at all.
Monkey Kung Fu
The amount of your mom jokes from a movie made in 1979 and the sexual humor that takes place at times is just unreal, but every single fight just shows off how funny this movie is. The twist is also well done in this quest to find the other half of a wooden pendant
In The Name Of The Father
Powerful performances all around in this about the bombing of a pub by IRA terrorists in the 70s.
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
What a strange, but somehow endearing sci-fi romance about 2 persons drawn together and the love life told through flashbacks.

[cj iwakura]

Extreme Ghostbusters was fucking dope.

My favorite Bill Murray story is how he got the original Venkman voice actor fired because he also did Garfield, and Bill didn't want people to think Venkman sounded like Garfield.

And then he went on to do none other than voice Garfield himself.

[Vexorg]

True Lies: ***

1992 action film with Arnold Schwarzenegger and a huge budget (the movie is reported to be the first ever to exceed a budget of $100 million,) you can probably guess what to expect from there. Arnie plays a secret agent who, while in the process of tracking down the usual group of terrorists trying to acquire the usual nuclear weapons, starts to suspect that his wife (Jamie Lee Curtis) is cheating on him with a sleazy used car salesman. Gets a little too bogged down with the cheating subplot in the middle of the film, but overall it's a pretty good Big Dumb Action movie. Also has one of my favorite one-liners as Arnie informs the baddie that his employment with the Crimson Jihad has been terminated, effective immediately. I suspect this scene was probably the reigning champion for being the single most ridiculous thing ever put on film for many years before finally being dethroned by this exquisite bit of nonsense from Furious 7.

Also, how the heck would Arnie's character manage to be a top secret government agent for 17 years and his wife would have absolutely no idea what he does for a living? You'd think she would have been directly involved in a background check for a security clearance somewhere along the line...

[xxx1993]

Extreme Ghostbusters was fucking dope.

My favorite Bill Murray story is how he got the original Venkman voice actor fired because he also did Garfield, and Bill didn't want people to think Venkman sounded like Garfield.

And then he went on to do none other than voice Garfield himself.

http://venkgarf.ytmnd.com/ I noticed that.

[xxx1993]

I already like Enola Holmes 2 more than the first one.

Spoiler

But holy crap, that plot twist... Mira Troy is THE Moriarty?

[NYN]

Some time back in the adroid 80s teen-movie scene:

You have to understand, at the end of Pretty in Pink, with Andie and Ducky at the prom, and the rich snot turns up, and she picks him instead of Ducky, that's the right choice. Ask anybody. She trades up. That there is why it's such a classic. Nobody would pick that buffoonish oaf. Who hooks up with the childhood friend, which is a one-sided affair anyway? Like, Ducky loves Andie. Andie doesn't love Ducky. It's plain, and in pink even. I mean, would you? Remember, this is America, in the 80s no less, not some fairy tale in Old World in 1888 or some such...

Apparently John Hughes was livid, and is why Some Kind of Wonderful (which had a shit ton of drama) turned out the way it did.

Some Kind of Wonderful

So, only one year later. The re-tell-make-mix. Same writer and producer, same director, same studio, same triangle, same story. Different ending. I am amazed about how they pull it off to gender-swap the 3 main teens and get away-way-way with it, while nowadays anybody attempting fudging with nostalgia would be media-cally skinned alive for it. With rabid YouTubers foaming at the snout. Different 'tudes, eh? Maybe it was the quick follow-up. The heartthrob of the piece still is a ginger, only male, though effeminate enough to differ. The love-love is a drumming tomboy. The sweetest switching-up, don't you think? There's much of more subtle changes, too. The ginger Keith has now a full set of family, while Andie was alone with her heart-broken pop. The pop here is a kinda hard-ass. The Spader-esque is still the dick, though. It's fun to see in terms of writing that Hughes made dang sure that he got his ending, and no re-shoot of scenes could support his outcome. I mean, if this would be a double feature, would I feel betrayed by how they sling the same thing twice? No, I don't think so. It's very much like a musical remix, with the same notes but different tunes. All right with me. Maybe not the least is that the artist got his vision at the end? Well, dang.

[Mischief Maker]

Some time back in the adroid 80s teen-movie scene:

You have to understand, at the end of Pretty in Pink, with Andie and Ducky at the prom, and the rich snot turns up, and she picks him instead of Ducky, that's the right choice. Ask anybody. She trades up. That there is why it's such a classic. Nobody would pick that buffoonish oaf. Who hooks up with the childhood friend, which is a one-sided affair anyway? Like, Ducky loves Andie. Andie doesn't love Ducky. It's plain, and in pink even. I mean, would you? Remember, this is America, in the 80s no less, not some fairy tale in Old World in 1888 or some such...

Apparently John Hughes was livid, and is why Some Kind of Wonderful (which had a shit ton of drama) turned out the way it did.

Some Kind of Wonderful

So, only one year later. The re-tell-make-mix. Same writer and producer, same director, same studio, same triangle, same story. Different ending. I am amazed about how they pull it off to gender-swap the 3 main teens and get away-way-way with it, while nowadays anybody attempting fudging with nostalgia would be media-cally skinned alive for it. With rabid YouTubers foaming at the snout. Different 'tudes, eh? Maybe it was the quick follow-up. The heartthrob of the piece still is a ginger, only male, though effeminate enough to differ. The love-love is a drumming tomboy. The sweetest switching-up, don't you think? There's much of more subtle changes, too. The ginger Keith has now a full set of family, while Andie was alone with her heart-broken pop. The pop here is a kinda hard-ass. The Spader-esque is still the dick, though. It's fun to see in terms of writing that Hughes made dang sure that he got his ending, and no re-shoot of scenes could support his outcome. I mean, if this would be a double feature, would I feel betrayed by how they sling the same thing twice? No, I don't think so. It's very much like a musical remix, with the same notes but different tunes. All right with me. Maybe not the least is that the artist got his vision at the end? Well, dang.

One of the things I loved about the first season of Stranger Things was that the teenage sister stays with the heartthrob boyfriend she was actually attracted to before the mystery. Just because the creepy photographer accomplished a task with her didn't make her obligated to marry him. I mean before the monster encounter their only big social encounter was her discovering he'd been perving on her having sex through the bedroom window with his camera. The show ends with her replacing the camera her boyfriend (justifiably) broke and they're now even-steven, but her actual boyfriend is the one celebrating Christmas with her. Perfect!

Then season 2 came around. Most people say they hate season 2 for the roving gang of punk psychics. I hate it for the forced hookup between the teen sister and creepy photographer. Not only did these two actors have zero chemistry, but the way it happens is gross. They're staying the night in a crank journalist's warehouse loft, and this middle aged man in a bathrobe bedazzles them with his powers of script-clairvoyance before declaring that they must, by plot-fiat, have sex in his loft; after the show makes clear there are cameras everywhere. Yech!

[GaijinPunch]

Some Kind of Wonderful definitely has some flaws. Looking back, the whole poor vs rich thing was way heavy handed. There is still something quite amazing about any of the John Hughes movies, and it's generally the soundtrack mixed with the times. Some Kind of Wonderful's soundtrack is actually one of the better ones - where The Breakfast Clubs is not nearly as memorable with the obvious exception, despite being the best of his filmography. Even so, I doubt anyone would recognize any of the artists on SKoW's soundtrack outside of The Jesus and Mary Chain.

[xxx1993]

Watched Top Gun: Maverick again, this time on Blu-ray. Still a masterpiece.

[GaijinPunch]

Watched Top Gun: Maverick again, this time on Blu-ray. Still a masterpiece.

I very much enjoyed this - it's definitely a theater experience. Cruise is a weirdo but mad props to sticking to his guns for making sure this didn't go straight to streaming. It was the right call.

That being said, there was one HUGE flaw though with this flick, that is hard to overlook. Jennifer Connely is ridiculously hot, and their "love scene" was weak. For all we know, it was just some heavy petting followed by him jerking it in the bathroom and then bailing. The original's love making w/ Kelly McGillis sent my 6th grade brain into all kinds of overdrive. Now that I'm a dirty old man and much fewer reasons to get excited, shit like that irks the fuck out of me.

[xxx1993]

Either way, I still love it and now it's become my personal favorite movie of all time. If Top Gun: Maverick was a woman, I'd marry it.