It never gets old no matter how many times I watch it

Oh well, you know, even Aliens. I mean I fucking love that movie (check my location) but without its visuals, catchphrases and super-heroine that makes most male action heroes look like little bois, it's an empty shell, er...egg, like most of Cameron's movies.Skykid wrote:Terminator 2
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I've seen this so many times I know it beat for beat, yet every time I watch it over the years it's increasingly disappointing. This is probably the second most overrated of Cameron's work after Avatar.
In the end it's not as good as The Terminator by a long shot, lacking the same horror or consistency, and not as good as other Hollywood blockbusters of the era, like Jurassic Park or Cameron's own Aliens.
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Come and See is totally in my top 3 War movies list with Apocalyps Now and FULL METAL JACKETXyga wrote:Dude have you seen Come and See ? (1985, Elem Klimov)GaijinPunch wrote:Apocalypse Now will probably always be my favorite war movie, but I gotta say SPR was probably the most immersive.Saving Private Ryan
i'll be honest with u..Terminator 2 is always my best action movies since kidSkykid wrote:Terminator 2
For anyone to say Jurassic Park is "better than" T2.. lul just lul.kaicooper wrote:i'll be honest with u..Terminator 2 is always my best action movies since kid
Hmm. While both are popcorn movies, T2 is more straight chase/action, where JP certainly does a better job in providing a more harrowing feeling in the viewer, I'd say. Kind of like the difference between "Alien" and "Aliens", only in reverse. Very, very different movies in my opinion.BryanM wrote:That other movie, is a cartoon where generic victims run away from CGI monsters for 2 hours.
Two examples of the "chase" plot, but lightyears apart in content.
It was overrated... right out of the gates. Charming, to an extent, but the way it was hyped up. I'd have enjoyed it had I been in a vacuum until it started.Mischief Maker wrote: Jurassic Park's failings fall in the realm of schlock.
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No really. I rewatched JP recently, and here's what I thought:BryanM wrote: For anyone to say Jurassic Park is "better than" T2.. lul just lul.
I don't have a problem if someone prefers the concept of T2 to Crichton's JP, that's fair enough. I like a good Harlan Ellison tale as much as the next guy.JURASSIC PARK: ONE
So after all this talk, I went back to it.
It was better than I remembered it being, and between this and Jurassic World it's a case of night and day. Importantly, owing to Jurassic Park's summer blockbuster angle it retroactively serves as a wonderful comparison piece to Jurassic World. It highlights everything missing from modern blockbusters and the critical failings of the modern producer system - something that's robbing adventure film of all personality and placing a glossy husk in its place.
From the top then:
Jurassic Park has characters, and I was surprised to rediscover exactly how much time is invested in those characters to properly engineer the direction of the movie. From the word go it's pure character development, oodles of dialogue that round and shape your protagonists and an ensemble who all have a meaningful place within the fracas. From the English game hunter watching over the Raptors to Samuel L. chain smoking the fuck out of the control room.
It's surprising, in-fact, how written a film it is: there's a huge amount of emphasis placed on dialogue and interaction between the endangered humans, and the pacing is somehow quite divine, managing to give everyone just enough time to solidify before the train wreck starts. Goldblum is a fantastic key, his womanising, chaos theorising and verbal pathos leading into the park's disassembly quite perfectly.
Of course the movie has an edge Spielberg has all but lost. It opens with a worker being mutilated by a raptor and doesn't let up. Nedry gets blinded and butchered by something horrible, the lawyer is wrenched up by the T-Rex and thrown about in its jaws like a rag doll, and the Raptors at the end are really terrifying in their patience as they stalk the kitchen for child food. It's no way near as bloodless or disposable as Jurassic World.
And the reason why it all works so well is there's imagination in the making. The opening really leads you in to a theme park wonderland, shows you around, gives you a cast with opinions, personal interest, vulnerability, strength, knowledge, greed and ethics (or a lack of). And when all the power goes out at the T-Rex paddock there's absolutely zero dramatic music throughout the entire scene - just the sound of rainfall and the Rex screeching like a nightmare as it walks between the cars. The lack of CG is incredibly uplifting too, with the combined and impressive animatronics saving it from early ageing in remarkable fashion. It still holds up better than... well Jurassic World, and that's brand new.
So all in all, it helps to have a novel to write your screenplay from. It helps to have a director who knows how to construct tension and give enough time to flesh out his universe. It's not a masterpiece of film, but within its specific genre and goals, it overachieves, especially retrospectively now that basically everything has turned to shit in modern Hollywood.
For those moments, for the impressive effects, sound design and execution, and genuine terror, it manages to suppress the weaker aspects of dialogue, acting and nonsensical acts. Simply, it's still a helluva ride.
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That opening scene. Still got grip. I'm not quite sure how Harlin nailed it, but it's got an almost too-real level of horror in *instances* that seem to almost subvert the subject material. You went in for a Stallone actioner, and in the first five minutes it suddenly becomes a spectacular horrifying snuff movie. Really, I'm not sure "I don't want to die" has ever been uttered quite so fittingly as it is by the poor girl at the end of the rope.Cliffhanger
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I was about to say that there wasn't much memorable in the anime besides the government spying on everyone having sex because the aliens would turn people they subverted into nymphomaniacs.GaijinPunch wrote:Ironically never saw this... was always told the manga was better. Maybe I grab all the manga then watch the movie.Strider77 wrote:I watched Venus Wars on bluray.... man, this one was quite a surprise. Excellent animation, right up my alley.
RegalSin wrote:You can't even drive across the country Naked anymore
I'm assuming you didn't enjoy this. I sure didn't and clearly can tell the action scenes are tacked onto what is supposed to be a drama.xxx1993 wrote:Police Story: Lockdown.
Xyga wrote:It's really awesome how quash never gets tired of hammering the same stupid shit over and over and you guys don't suspect for second that he's actually paid for this.
I've watched that movie multiple times, laughed myself into the fetal position at certain points, and still share your father's initial opinion.atheistgod1999 wrote:Jackass: The Movie for the third time yesterday. My dad made me watch a movie of my choice with him yesterday and I chose that. Before watching, he thought it was stupid and that those people were just retards who were going to get themselves killed. While watching, however, my dad was laughing harder than I was the first time I saw it.
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A key thing to keep in mind while watching this movie is that it came out while it was still an open question whether or not the US was going to get involved in WWII.BrianC wrote:Casablanca is something I should have watched a long time ago. A real classic. I heard many of the lines before, but never seen the full movie. Bogart was excellent in it.
I think that has more to do with the flawed rating system. Three star reviews are counted as rotten. When I looked at the user reviews, most of them were 3 or 3.5 stars rather than negative.Vexorg wrote:Hail, Caesar!: ***1/2
This seems to be a movie the critics loved, but the moviegoing public's reaction to was decidedly mixed (85% from critics on Rotten Tomatoes and 46% from the audience.)
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Thanks. That was one of the facts the person introducing the movie mentioned and it definitely helped me enjoy the movie more.Mischief Maker wrote:A key thing to keep in mind while watching this movie is that it came out while it was still an open question whether or not the US was going to get involved in WWII.BrianC wrote:Casablanca is something I should have watched a long time ago. A real classic. I heard many of the lines before, but never seen the full movie. Bogart was excellent in it.
definitely an unconventional flick. one of the most violent movies i've ever seen (particularly towards the end). Copley was awesome. enjoyed every scene with him. he reminds me a bit of peter sellers.Skykid wrote:Hardcore Henry is rather interesting, surprisingly. Wouldn't watch it for anything except ultra violence of course, although Sharlto Copley is excellent in it.
It's totally off the wall in premise, and I liked that; and totally un-hollywood in its FPP styling.
But most impressive is the budget... 2 million!! Unreal, it looks 50 times that. Just proves the efficiency outside of the wasteful Hollywood producer system.