drauch wrote:speedlolita wrote:People hate Tarentino to be edgy and cool.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we are all 12 here and should all think exactly the same, especially if
a large majority likes
a film maker or
a particular item. I guess it's "edgy and cool" to not believe in God, or to not enjoy pizza, or for one to not like wearing socks. Okay, fascist.
If you like Tarantino, then so be it; I'm not going to judge you on your film taste, because that's all relative and what-not. I'm sorry, but when
a director smashes together The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh, The Searchers, Lady Snowblood, Navajo Joe, and
a billion other fantastic films into
a hodge-podge of pop-culture kewl cinema it pisses me off. Along with video games, cinema has always been
a large part of my life, and Tarantino makes
a mockery of the films I love. So instead of people giving
a damn about movies like Thriller:
A Cruel Picture with Christina Lindberg or Sex & Fury with Reiko Ike, I have to hear about mediocre actress Uma Thurman dispatching
a bunch of dudes with Green Hornet masks in
a scene from Fist of Fury.
Edgy and cool? I'm really beyond words. I could debate my hatred for Tarantino and his "cinema of cool" all day. If anyone wants to make
a separate thread, then so be it, but I've made my point and I'm done here. I'm gonna go back to hating things that other people like now. Follow the flock, step in shit.
Don't get too offended, but you sound exactly like
a grumpy elitist who's offended by having "his" exclusive stuff taken from him and made available to the public? "You weren't there, man, you don't know, man..." Does it hurt so much that you can't see the obvious merits of say, Kill Bill vol.1? You claim that Tarantino makes
a "mockery" of your favorite films.. how so? I have watched all that stuff too, and see QT's films in
a totally different light. No mockery, just tributes and captivating stories based on deep knowledge and understanding of genre films. Kill Bill vol.1 is the best amalgam that could ever be born from its ingredients. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and trying to identify the multitude of movie references. It's not entirely perfect; he tried to get some blaxploitation vibe going on too hastily, and cramming Sonny Chiba into the film was somewhat awkward.
The truth is that Tarantino is
a genius at recycling the greatest moments and ideas of exploitation cinema. His style is almost impeccable (though casting Brad Pitt in IB = grave mistake), his ability to find and select music.. unrivaled. Most of all I like the guy as
a movie fanatic, ranting about some forgotten films. As an actor he's getting worse. In Reservoir Dogs he was good and From Dusk Till Dawn is his best role by far. Other than that, pretty meh, but always interesting to see.
Opinions are opinions, but you're definitely wrong about one thing: You say that people don't give
a damn about the films Tarantino "copies" - But I have witnessed younger Tarantino fans getting interested in the original films he takes influences from. They want to see more of this kind of stuff. Without Tarantino's promoting, most of them wouldn't know these films exist. He's doing
a cool job.
P.S. Boondock Saints is ok! Not Tarantino-quality of course, but copycats seldom are..
P.P.S. Robert Rodriguez is over-rated. Machete was him trying to do the Tarantino trick and failing.
DEL wrote:drauch wrote;
At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that
I don't find Hostel 1 & 2 awful at all. I named my account after it and even made
a pilgrimage to Bratislava and went torture-dungeon hunting.
Finally someone who recognizes Eli Roth's (immense) talent. When I first saw Cabin Fever, I wasn't expecting much (Roth was
a nobody back then), but was very positively surprised and saw that there was someone behind it that doesn't settle for just the basics, but aims for the top. And Hostel 1-2 sure delivered... I can watch those again and again. Too bad he's not
a particularly good actor - Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds revealed that. Still, it warms the heart see him making cameos in amusing thrash films like 2001 Maniacs or Piranha 3D.
I also made
a pilgrimage to Bratislava because I was so impressed with Hostel. Didn't find any torture-dungeons or those horny babes though... just some place called McKebab. Before that I made another pilgrimage to
a hostel in Amsterdam, and actually that was quite an experience, ending up in the same room with
a violent criminal who kept drinking and trying to provoke
a fight (and steal our stuff). After seeing Hostel 2, I went on
a third pilgrimage, to Iceland, to visit the beautiful outdoor spa that can be seen in Hostel 2 (the scene where Lauren German falls asleep in the pool and wakes up with everybody gone). The place is called Blue Lagoon, near Reykjavik. It's
a geothermal spa, and really nice experience.
http://www.bluelagoon.com/Images/