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trap15 wrote:Low-fi PCM is possible, but sounds like garbage and I'd rather not.
Like 7,676 hz OKI samples? :mrgreen:
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12000hz 4bit raw PCM. So yes, far worse.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJW1O1Lwc-c Preview 19 in the house. OP updated.
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Mmmm delicious carpet bombing.

How does the bomb recharge work exactly? It seems to build up on its own but does killing the larger enemies charge bomb faster or am I just seeing things?
Maybe popcorn enemies could drop bomb fragments or something to that effect to hasten the charge progress.
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Kills, damage, and time factor into the recharging. I'm still not quite happy with the parameter balance, but it'll be easy enough to tweak.
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Just noticed this! Looks awesome man, I expect great things. Are you doing the music yourself too?

I'm up for testing aswell
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No, I can't make music, so we've asked around and are working with tappy (@tappy on Twitter), who will be making the music.

Hopefully we can finish this up soon, I'd kinda like to get this into people's hands :)
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Do you have a timeframe in mind?
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I just saw this thread and I'm' *way* into it. When you say it's for Wonderswan Color, does that mean there's a flash cart or something for the system or is it going to be on Wonderswan Emulator? I'm really new to all this so sorry for the stupid questions :(

If I can play this on the WonderSwan Color, I'm going to pick one up right now just for this game!
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CStarFlare wrote:Do you have a timeframe in mind?
I wont have time for background stuff before June, maybe not much before end of June.
Will see what I can fit in. Also it needs more level as well as a finalised boss so I can design new art for that too.
And I have to finish the art for the launch sequence too, as well as title and possibly settings screen.

I imagine there will be a point when more art and music is missing than code :o
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Was messing around while watching Emuser's stream and got the idea to do some Taito lasers. Result: https://youtu.be/kbDz2tKLy8A
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Damn fine lasers.
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I was going to make a thread about this sooner or later, but how exactly are Taito Homing Lasers scripted? I mean the actual homing device.

I know it's not just incrementing one position value to the other, like a more simple homing attack (that wouldn't result in them "bending" off screen when they miss?). Do they have an angle track which decrease as they live or accelerate or something like that?
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It's actually super simple. Advance facing angle towards player each frame, but limit the amount of angle change. In that video I'm using a max of 2 (out of 256 steps for angle). The actual laser is built of 8 circles, and they each take the place of the next circle on the previous frame. With some extra memory, you can make it less compacted (to use less sprites for more length), but that's just tweaking.

The speed does have a very simple FSM. Until frame 40, decelerate (I'm doing speed -= speed /32 there, where 256 speed is 1px/f), then after that accelerate at some speed (forgot what that video uses, I now use rank to control it).
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Ah, I see. So the amount the angle can turn per frame is limited, and then the acceleration just takes it off screen before it can fully turn around? Makes sense. Thanks a ton Trap.

Thanks for clarifying on the trail effect. I figured it was something like that (multiple copies of the sprite).
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Just the limited angle is enough, but the acceleration is part of the style. Regarding the angle limiting, think about a car with a poor turn radius. No matter how much you turn the wheel, you're not going to get to the center. Provided a small enough angle limit, the laser will probably go off-screen even with constant speed.
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trap15 wrote:Provided a small enough angle limit, the laser will probably go off-screen even with constant speed.
Ah, I see. Just couldn't visualize it. I think that would depend on the speed though, wouldn't it? I seem to recall I've seen a few variations that loop around for a second go before finally falling off screen. Would that be a matter of making the projectile slower, or altering the angle limit?
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Yeah, there are a few ways to guarantee laser exit. The easiest, and in my opinion best, way to do it is just to have the laser constantly accelerate. The other is to decrease the turning limit over time.
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Sounds good. I'm sure it'll be fun to experiment with! Thanks again :).
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Dinking around with being a jokester. https://youtu.be/uI1UufW0A1M It's like I'm really playing espgaluda.
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So, just for fun, or a real Danmaku mode?
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Just taking the piss out of CAVE's style. Maybe will be in the same way Euro Mode is, but it will never be a main mode.
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Almost as much slowdown as a real CAVE game!
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trap15 wrote:Just taking the piss out of CAVE's style.
Then you need at least six more multipliers, four of which are invisible.

It should also counterstop at roughly one tenth of the maximum score potential.
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Still confused on whether or not this is for emulator only or will be on a cartridge of some sort.
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Short answer: I don't know.
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looks cool really ! any arcade ports ?
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Uploaded preview two-oh. https://youtu.be/W2JtsZKchIc

Getting mighty close.
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Looks fabulous.
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