XRGB-3

[BuckoA51]

Solaris still have them in stock I believe http://www.solarisjapan.com/categories/XRGB/

[laserfall]

Hi ,

I think my xrgb-3s GAME IN port might be fried, it can display the ps2s component signal via GAME IN, but it can't display RGBs from the ps2, psx, saturn or n64 like it used to be able to, instead it shows a blue screen with "no signal". Anyone know if this can be fixed, ive tried resetting and flashing firmware to no avail.

For now i've built a scart to vga cable like Konsolkongen and hooked it up to D2 and it works well with the psx and ps2, haven't gotten the sat and n64 to work with it yet tho.

Last august i sent it back for repairs, endured a 3 month wait, and sadly its developed some fault again so soon. I'm debating whether its worth sending it back and waiting for it again, or to just leave it and work around this issue.

[Fudoh]

I can't really help, but on the XRGB units I've seen which have indeed a fried Scart input, neither RGB nor component was working, so yours probably isn't really dead.

I use my Saturn on the back input. Very straight forward and no problems at all.

[BuckoA51]

Have you tried replacing your SCART to Japanese RGB21 adaptor if you are using one?

[Palama]

New firmware update v.2.31 japanese and english version are available.
http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xrgb-3_download.htm

[trazome]

New firmware update v.2.31 japanese and english version are available.
http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xrgb-3_download.htm

thank you.
This new firmware unbricked my xrgb-3 and it's now working like a charm. Thank you micomsoft.
My nightmare is over. Thank you for your help, here in this forum.

[BuckoA51]

Any idea what's changed in this update? I am guessing B1 mode is not affected at all?

[Konsolkongen]

This is awesome! Now I can capture screenshots AND have the English menus

Now if Micomsoft could make a Linux compatible capture program I could die happy

EDIT: Argh come on Micomsoft! You removed the 1x DOT_by_DOT setting so now it's impossible to take pixelperfect SEGA Saturn screenshots

I would also love it if they could fix the glitch where scanlines doesn't always appear when powering on the XRGB-3 in B1 mode. Sometimes I have to go to the H-scanlines option and move the slider to make them appear

[Rock Man]

This is awesome! Now I can capture screenshots AND have the English menus

Now if Micomsoft could make a Linux compatible capture program I could die happy

EDIT: Argh come on Micomsoft! You removed the 1x DOT_by_DOT setting so now it's impossible to take pixelperfect SEGA Saturn screenshots

I would also love it if they could fix the glitch where scanlines doesn't always appear when powering on the XRGB-3 in B1 mode. Sometimes I have to go to the H-scanlines option and move the slider to make them appear

Yeah, I'm happy we are getting an update. An English one at that what a rare occurance!

However, think I'm gonna wait this one out and see what features were added or taken out. Any negation from the dot crawl settings is unessesary. Hope it's a mistake otherwise they should put it back.

[BuckoA51]

1x DOT_by_DOT doesn't affect B1 mode though, I believe this update is for B0 and B2 only. B2 lets you take screen-shots which is kinda cool.

[Konsolkongen]

Kinda very cool. This is what you can get when using 1x DOT_by_DOT and a bit of editing in The Gimp:
http://www.playright.dk/infotitel.php?id=14300

That is not possible with the current PixelMapping options

[Rock Man]

Happy to learn it doesn't "negatively" effect B1 mode, I only use B0 bank every so often. In hindsight not a big loss. Those pix are looking kind of fly! Will this new update allow you to capture images and use them as screen savers on your XRGB? If possible that would be very pleasing. How would I go about capturing screenshots with the aid of the XRGB-3, was there anything else added to the update? Pretty cool that we get another firmware bank to choose from, B2 & B3 seemed like a bunch of dead weight until now.

[Konsolkongen]

The screen capture firmware has been out for a while now, but only in Japanese. No you can't save the images on the XRGB-3. They will be sent via USB to your PC.
The new firmware ruins the capture feature pretty much though as they have removed the 1X pixelmapping option. Without that it's impossible to grap perfect sized shots of your 240p game consoles. Let's hope they can do a quick update that fixes this

[Rock Man]

The screen capture firmware has been out for a while now, but only in Japanese. No you can't save the images on the XRGB-3. They will be sent via USB to your PC.
The new firmware ruins the capture feature pretty much though as they have removed the 1X pixelmapping option. Without that it's impossible to grap perfect sized shots of your 240p game consoles. Let's hope they can do a quick update that fixes this

I see thanks. I'll hold off until Micomsoft reveals another update.

[bryan_c]

Anyone know whether the XRGB-3 works with somewhat recent LG LCD TVs (in B0 and B1 modes)? I have a 47LD450 and I'm a bit hesitant to shell out for an XRGB without knowing whether I'd need to shell out even more (for say, a Gefen) for my TV to not mock me with "invalid format" errors.

I don't see any LGs on the wiki but I'm hoping someone knows anyway.

[Konsolkongen]

It's really hard to say I can see that your TV does have VGA input so that's a start

The XRGB-3 should work fine in B0 mode either with VGA or HDMI, but perhaps not in all resolutions. 1080p is especially troublesome and as far as I can understand it doesn't work on most TV's.

B1 mode seems more and more unlikely to work on never TV's unfortunately

[fagin]

B1 mode seems more and more unlikely to work on never TV's unfortunately

For what reasons would that be.... DSUB15 availability aside or is THAT what you're getting at?

[Fudoh]

the manufacturer's are using cheap OEM a/d converters at the VGA inputs and many of those have very narrow specs, VESA timings only etc.. Compared to those the XRGB's output signal is a real mess.

[fagin]

Does the use of the Edge in between negate that potential problem?

[BuckoA51]

In most (but not all) cases yes.

[Fudoh]

this particular problem should be solved in all cases - - or can you think of any reason why the XRGB should not display at all through the Edge ?

[fagin]

Cool - If nothing else I need to make sure the EDGE does not leave me!

[BuckoA51]

this particular problem should be solved in all cases - - or can you think of any reason why the XRGB should not display at all through the Edge ?

PC Engine (worked on my old Hitachi and on a CRT Monitor with with the XRGB3, won't work XRGB3->DVDO Edge->KDL-40Z4500)
Sega Megadrive when using SMS converter
Probably Neo Geo MVS too.

[Rock Man]

So now HDTV's with VGA input are rejecting the XRGB-3's B1 mode... great.

This is bananas B1 mode is a major selling point for the XRGB-3.

[bryan_c]

So now HDTV's with VGA input are rejecting the XRGB-3's B1 mode... great.

This is bananas B1 mode is a major selling point for the XRGB-3.

Yeah, no kidding. If I knew B1 mode would work with my TV, I would have bought an XRGB-3 months ago. Almost did buy one, too, then I discovered that some TVs choke on B1. My TV chokes on 240p over component (and deinterlaces 240p over composite); while I know this is a totally different thing than accepting a slightly dodgy VGA signal, it doesn't exactly instill me with confidence...

This is actually the only reason why I asked how laggy the cheap-o CGA-VGA scaler is. I know the picture quality of that scaler is supposed to be garbage compared to a working XRGB, but I'm under the impression that it works on more TVs than the XRGB-3 in B1 mode (though I admit I might be wrong here). So if the cheap-o scaler was less laggy than the XRGB in B0 it would be worth a purchase to me (along with a scanline generator to make the picture more tolerable).

[Rock Man]

My friend has one of those CGA/EGA to VGA converters, really nifty device.

Your right the picture quality is shoddy compared to the XRGB-3 (B1 mode).

[fagin]

Subject of picture clarity alone.... yes it is not as good as the XRGB but as a scaler / transcoder in it's own right for 240p or 480p video it works well considering it's price (can be bought for as little as £19 on eBay), especially when coupled with the SLG3000. Of course, it has it's negatives though...... but what do you expect for this kind of price range!

[aznxtc]

Anyone know whether the XRGB-3 works with somewhat recent LG LCD TVs (in B0 and B1 modes)? I have a 47LD450 and I'm a bit hesitant to shell out for an XRGB without knowing whether I'd need to shell out even more (for say, a Gefen) for my TV to not mock me with "invalid format" errors.

I don't see any LGs on the wiki but I'm hoping someone knows anyway.

I have the 32inch version and it works great with the XRGB-3 in both modes.

[SGGG2]

Managed to track down an Optoma HD3000, scales VGA from the XRGB wonderfully, but I'd like to use the zoom and masking features with B0 @ 1080p. The VGA on the Optoma will not accept resolutions higher than 1080i, and adapting the XRGB's DVI output to HDMI doesn't work either, due to timing issues? Any ideas on how to make this work, or do I need an Edge?

[fagin]

do I need an Edge?

You know you want one mate!