Dochartaigh wrote:
I'm asking because I pretty much, never, ever, use my Extron RGB 203 Rxi's for centering, EVER lol
Maybe I'm overrating the Extron RGB 203 Rxi and it's not as useful as I think for centering? What do other guys think, do you find it useful in your case?
Dochartaigh wrote:
but even on my Groovymame setup – (which I am NOT a pro at and haven't used nearly as much as my consoles), once it was setup I was pretty well centered and such for all the games I ran on it.
Well... I thought Groovymame would be more problematic, as it emulates a large number of systems, with a great variability in resolutions.
Dochartaigh wrote:
*edit, and yes, the signal looping in/out of a PVM does still work when the PVM is off fyi.
Thanks for confirmation!
Guile wrote:There's no need to be sending a 31khz signal to a 15khz monitor that will never be able to display it.
Well, somehow you have to connect the two monitors. It made sense to use the PVM's RGB OUT instead of using some extra unit.
Guile wrote:
Have you considered a gbs-control or ossc? This would largely solve your problem of displaying 240p and 480i on your 31khz monitor. A nice bonus is the downscaling on the gbs-control will let you play 480p content on your 15khz monitor.
Thanks Guile, but I prefer not to line doubling, although the result is good, I don't like it.
matt wrote:
As others have mentioned, you can do basically all of this with a single matrix switcher. If you set it up properly, you can make presets for everything and only have to press one button for each console you want. IMO auto switching is overrated - you have to manually turn on your console anyhow and pushing the preset button on the switcher isn't any more work.
Yeah, I know.
matt wrote:
- Most VGA monitors will accept composite sync. Have you tried it with your monitor? As long as it's 31khz or above the sync splitter may not be necessary.
Yes, as mentioned above, the Extron PA 250 is probably
not necessary.
matt wrote:
- The VGA ARS switchers often have trouble auto switching with 15khz inputs. This setup probably won't work automatically for all your consoles.
I didn't know about this. Any links? What is the experience of other guys?
matt wrote:
- I'd get a GCvideo dongle instead of modding a set of Gamecube component cables. The GCVideo will do a better job and costs less.
Again, is this true? Any links comparing the two? I thought it was the opposite, and the GCvideo still has minor compatibility issues with some minority games.
Guspaz wrote:Your main idea as described (fully automatic with simultaneous output) is not achieved by the setup you've laid out, because all signals are being routed through the PVM with no scaler between the PVM and the PC CRT. Thus you will only ever be able to use one of the two monitors at the same time. Nothing is simultaneous because the two possible signals are mutually exclusive.
Yes, sorry Guspaz, I think I oversimplified the explanation. Actually,
only one of the two monitors would be used, depending on the resolution of the game/system. The other would be turned off.
Guspaz wrote:I would just route everything (and I mean everything) through one gscartsw, converting sync as required to get it to be RGsB or RGBS on the input. It can handle up to 1080p. It has dual outputs. Run one output to the PVM. Run the other output to the PC CRT. If the PC CRT doesn't support RGBS (my last one did), use a sync splitter between the switch and the PC CRT. One switch, 100% automatic, no upscaling, no downscaling, no matrix switch button complexity, every console can be displayed on one or the other monitors. And the dual-resolution consoles are connected to both displays so just turn on the appropriate display for the resolution.
Yes, that is the most logical and simplest thing to do. The only problem is that you would need two Extron RGB 203 Rxi, one for each output of the gscartsw.
My proposal (gscartsw+Extron SW VGA) has also other advantages (if it works!):
- * You keep the future possibility of adding new systems.
* You only need one Extron RGB 203 Rxi.
* It uses more common cables (D-SUB) in some systems (PC/Mister/DC), than SCART.
Guspaz wrote:
EDIT: The Dreamcast might seem complex, but it isn't. The TORO is what's adding the complexity, on top of being a questionable product. There are several cables already available or soon available that output a single uniform signal and sync type for all possible dreamcast resolutions, allowing you to connect it to the gscartsw just as I've described above.
Really? Does this cable exist? I would appreciate a product name or a link.