Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2MDU?

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Brad251
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Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2MDU?

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For anyone that has used both of these, which monitor do you think has a better picture quality and why?
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Re: Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2M

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For these two monitors, which are so very similar to each other (I've had maybe 5x 1954's and 10x M2's), it's simply going to come down to which one is in better condition.
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Re: Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2M

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really not much difference at all. I've had a couple of both series monitors pass through my hands(1344/1354Q and 14M2U/20M2U), the M2 were maybe a hair clearer picture but could be due to aging caps in the 1344/1354Q.

AFAIC they're pretty much identical. Both look amazing, these 600 TVL pvm units are some of very my fave, they look so good for games
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Re: Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2M

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I didn't realize that the 1953MD was the medical version of the 1954Q. I have gamed on an Olympus OEV 203 (rebranded 20M2MDU) and I thought that the colors were amazing. However, when I look at images online of the 1954Q and 1953MD, the colors don't seem nearly as vibrant as they are on the 20M2MDU. Is it true that the colors are less vibrant on the PVM-1953/4? I found the interlace flicker to be somewhat noticeable on the OEV 203 and was wondering if that would be the same on the PMV-1953/4? Also, it seems like scanlines are more visible on the 1953/4 in pics. In person, I couldn't seen the scanlines at all when 240p gaming on the OEV203. Is this true?
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Re: Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2M

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Brad251 wrote:when I look at images online of the 1954Q and 1953MD, the colors don't seem nearly as vibrant as they are on the 20M2MDU. Is it true that the colors are less vibrant on the PVM-1953/4? I found the interlace flicker to be somewhat noticeable on the OEV 203 and was wondering if that would be the same on the PMV-1953/4? Also, it seems like scanlines are more visible on the 1953/4 in pics. In person, I couldn't seen the scanlines at all when 240p gaming on the OEV203. Is this true?
Taking pictures of a CRT is extremely hard - they really don't do it justice and will almost always look drastically different in person fyi.

You just had two people, who have each owned multiple versions of both of these sets, tell you in essence that they're identical... and also mention that it commonly comes down to condition alone... so don't know what else to tell you. If you look at the base specs themselves (dealing with color since you mentioned that) they do have different phosphor's, but quoting from a guy who wrote a book on color correction in the era of CRT monitors, he said (found this on an old forum post): "There is no difference. Period." between those two phosphor's they each use. Again, solely comes down to individual condition as the newest of these models will be ~20+ years old by now.

For you not seeing scanlines in-person on a 20M2, how far away did you look? (they will blend together if you're across the room of course). If you took a good look and you still didn't see scanlines on 240p content, then that CRT has something wrong with it (or the source/connection-type you were using on it). Here's a pic I took of the scanlines on a normal condition 20M2:

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Looks a little different with an actual graphic displayed, but you can still clearly see scanlines in my bad pic:

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Re: Difference in image quality between PVM 1953MD and 20M2M

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I was playing super famicom over s-video from 3 feet away. The picture was excellent, I just couldn't see the scanlines.
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Brad251 wrote:I was playing super famicom over s-video from 3 feet away. The picture was excellent, I just couldn't see the scanlines.
If it didn't look close to the above something was wrong with your friend's CRT I'm sorry to say (those pics I uploaded were from a SNES as well). Or you just didn't notice it... but whoever I have over to my house (pre-covid, sadly) and I show my pro monitors to, they all comment on the lines, so it's usually pretty evident.
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