Josh128 wrote:So you think this is the right place for this type of discussion?
Yes.
Josh128 wrote:Im ignorant yet you claim this is not a campaign? This is the fucking definition of a campaign, homie. Trying to claim its not a campaign is ignorant.
OK, my bad, it's a campaign. So?
Josh128 wrote:Whats also ignorant is you comparing this project to a governments agreement ...
I wasn't speaking of any government agreement. I was speaking of government's behavior/justification more generally. You seem to have misunderstood: the reason I introduced the government / greenhouse gas parallel was to illustrate the kind of harmful thought, and it works really well for that purpose. As obvious as it is that governments don't typically sell products to end consumers, as obvious is it that this does in no way affect the validity of my riposte, as it simply has nothing to do with it.
Josh128 wrote:If it could be accomplished for only ~10-20% more cost, I think most people, including myself, would be OK with it. Do you honestly think thats going to be the case?
How should I know if that is going to be the case—marqs and Bucko manage the contractual details. They should know better, considering marqs said that there are plans to produce in Europe also. Personally I would be OK with paying ~10-20% more for an OSSC Pro not made in China, perhaps a little more still. If there will be deals with multiple manufacturers based in different countries, maybe the shop could let customers choose and hinge the price on that choice. But it doesn't all depend on videogameperfection.com: as Tazz mentioned, once the hardware files are released, you could order from a manufacturer of your choosing (or possibly from another seller which might do things differently). Note that depending on the scale of the order, prices might not be the public ones. I think your estimation of the number of units produced:
"if the Pro does really well it might sell several hundred units in its first year or so of production" might be set a bit too low.
Josh128 wrote:Doing that to "take a stand" and all but killing your already limited sales would be extremely ignorant.
I think just breaking even as a hobby project, and for a good cause on top of that, would demonstrate some grit. If you can't even break even due to not producing in China, I can appreciate if you don't want to go that route. But as I said, I don't know the details.