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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:22 pm 


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Retro-Bit wrote:
Allow us to address the misconception that ALL Saturn USB pads from the first wave have bad DPads. I am being totally transparent here in that the amount of issues reported has significantly gone down since we've addressed this issue with our factory back in April, but those that did have issues was still a small fraction of the overall "affected" units. I hope that social media and online posts that are quick to point to this issue would also point out that we continue to support any resolution to people's problems, whether it is a DPad issue or anything else. We appreciate everyone that has done so, especially those that frequent this forum!

With that said, as is the same with anyone else, we are still honoring replacements for your units. If you're handy with a screwdriver, we can send you replacement DPad actuators at no cost the next time our time is in the office. Just shoot an e-mail to info@retro-bit.com if you need them or have any other issues. Please include any information about the issue you're dealing with and we will try to respond within the next few business days :)


Understood.

I am quite handy with various tools (especially when it comes to repairing Saturn pads), so I'm certain that we'll things sorted. Thank you so much for the prompt and thorough correspondence. You have clearly shown the sincere willingness to look out for your customers.

Hoping to make another order very soon!


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm 



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Einzelherz wrote:
And the majority of others just want a controller that works well. Bummer that you can't get over the color of a tool you can't even see while you're using it.



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Who said he'll use it? He just wants it so he can show it on his shelf along with his Saturn!
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I'm sorry, was I being jerky by pointing out why I wouldn't buy a product for a specific reason? A reason that I didn't even have to go back more than ONE page on a 10 page topic to find TWO other people who think the same exact way I do? ...And/or was I somehow (without my knowledge) inferring that I don't actually play games and just like to stare at controllers on a shelf?

Just like why I don't own a Retron 5 clone system, or even a Genesis 3, SNES mini, PS2 Slim, PSOne, etc. – because I've never, ever seen any of those weird non-original console versions growing up, so when I want to switch over to wireless controllers I likewise want to get as close as possible to the original for the sake of nostalgia. This means matching up the looks, the color, and yes *gasp* even the transparency of the case as close as I can because because that makes it all the more nostalgic to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:52 am 


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You never ever saw a 2.4ghz wireless Saturn controller either, so you probably shouldn't get this one.

Otoh there were black IR wireless controllers back then. I'd check ebay.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:48 am 


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Dochartaigh wrote:

I just went to pre-order the Saturn one....and then didn't because of the above. People who research then dish out money on things like this are usually looking for something as close to their original controller as possible....which is black, NOT see-through.

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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:10 am 



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Einzelherz wrote:
You never ever saw a 2.4ghz wireless Saturn controller either, so you probably shouldn't get this one.


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I guess you’re not cool enough to know about these:



You both (hopefully) know that I (and the others) are talking about regular USA/NTSC run of the mill Saturns which have black opaque controllers. Retro-Bit is even making the bluetooth versions with the black shell...makes no sense to not offer the 2.4ghz (with assumably less lag) with the same black shell - that's all I'm saying.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:53 am 


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Dochartaigh wrote:
Einzelherz wrote:
You never ever saw a 2.4ghz wireless Saturn controller either, so you probably shouldn't get this one.


opt2not wrote:
I guess you’re not cool enough to know about these:



You both (hopefully) know that I (and the others) are talking about regular USA/NTSC run of the mill Saturns which have black opaque controllers. Retro-Bit is even making the bluetooth versions with the black shell...makes no sense to not offer the 2.4ghz (with assumably less lag) with the same black shell - that's all I'm saying.


Well, the transparent black is also “original”...but yes, we all share your disappointment.
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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:23 am 


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I think any disappointment is simply due to the fact the Sega Saturn was only released in black in the US and Europe, and people like things to match so of course they would prefer a matching black 2.4G controller. Its less that they hate the other colors available, but more disappointment that the standard black color isn't one of the options, especially when the other models (Original plug, USB, Bluetooth) are all available in black. I'm sure Retro-Bit will consider making black 2.4G controllers available in the future though.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:06 am 


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Two ways these sentiments could have been made:

The adult way - "retro bit, are there plans to make the 2.4ghz wireless Saturn controller in black? I'm very interested in it but would prefer the original color."

The way it's often been in this thread - "I'm never buying this good product cause it should've been black and any other color is stupid."


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:30 am 


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Einzelherz wrote:
Two ways these sentiments could have been made:

The adult way - "retro bit, are there plans to make the 2.4ghz wireless Saturn controller in black? I'm very interested in it but would prefer the original color."

The way it's often been in this thread - "I'm never buying this good product cause it should've been black and any other color is stupid."


The only disproportionate response here is from you, people are expressing their sentiments in a perfectly reasonable way for a forum discussion. Your apparent offense at this is baffling.

Personally I'm gonna launch a hate campaign against Retro-Bit if these controllers aren't made available in diarrhoea brown to match my Japanese model 1 immediately.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:37 pm 



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I honestly do not care what color the controller is, I just want a super low lag or no lag 2.4ghz wireless controller for my Saturn.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:37 pm 


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FAXME wrote:
Can I run multiple 2.4g Saturn controllers on the PC with one receiver (ie in the same style as Xbox controllers work)? I'm after a decent and practical PC couch co op solution.

Thanks


I'm not sure I understand. It's one controller to one receiver. You can have multiple controllers and receivers connected to the same console (we did 8-man Smash Ultimate on the Switch with 8 of them, haha). They work swimmingly on PC.

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Are the wired USB pads designed for 1000Hz polling [on Windows]? If not, what's the number?

Also, reminder that these are prohibitively expensive second-hand. There has to be a lot of interest in a re-issue:
(for Playstation 1/2)

Thanks.


I'm not sure what the numbers are but I will ask our dev team what they are. As for PS1/PS2, there may be another 3rd party option in the future via a dongle like Brook. However, you never know what might happen later on. :)

Regarding 2.4 GHz Saturn Black Controllers: We will be looking into it after we release within the next few weeks. Our team is hard at work on hitting these deadlines prior to what is going to be a very busy holiday season so we might not be able to get to it until the new year. As we stated before, the response to the previous wired releases showed the black Saturn controllers to be the least popular out of all four. We don't intend to marginalize those who want to own a black version but we have heard people's demands and sought to address those who wanted different color options first. We are definitely listening to your constructive feedback on color options and ideas and we appreciate you all taking the time to communicate this to us. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:08 pm 


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I guess what most people are confused over is why offer it in black with the bluetooth version then? Why weren't those only available in weird colors?

If you are taking requests I'd love one (in the weird color) of grey to match the OG Japan Saturn.
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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:57 pm 


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I'm being told that Bluetooth SEGA controllers will be mid-November and 2.4 GHz will be late November. Europe will receive theirs a not long after.

After Retro-Bit's posting only a few days ago, I didn't expect these in the mail yet, but Amazon (.de that is) delivered the transparent blue MD 2.4G version today along with the Saturn 2.4G ones one in blue and smoke. The black MD one is on route as well - should be here tomorrow or the day after.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:38 pm 


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Fudoh wrote:
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I'm being told that Bluetooth SEGA controllers will be mid-November and 2.4 GHz will be late November. Europe will receive theirs a not long after.

After Retro-Bit's posting only a few days ago, I didn't expect these in the mail yet, but Amazon (.de that is) delivered the transparent blue MD 2.4G version today along with the Saturn 2.4G ones one in blue and smoke. The black MD one is on route as well - should be here tomorrow or the day after.


Yep! Can confirm. We received word from our suppliers that they had arrived and were already shipping out for Europe.

As for North America, we just got our shipment here not long ago. Castlemania should be able to get orders out this week/next week as soon as he gets them. Excitement! Let us know what you think! :D



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I guess what most people are confused over is why offer it in black with the bluetooth version then? Why weren't those only available in weird colors?
If you are taking requests I'd love one (in the weird color) of grey to match the OG Japan Saturn.


I've addressed this already. :)

Basically, Bluetooth development began much earlier because of the various licenses and approvals needed. We had the colors and designs finalized earlier this year before we had even gotten these into production. Hence why their colors mirror our original wired releases. While we did begin development on 2.4 Ghz wireless earlier this year, we were able to develop and update throughout the year and after the launch of our wired controllers. We made a decision based on feedback from our wired releases and saw the poor performance of Black Saturn controllers and the really high amount of Slate Grey Saturn and Clear Blue Genesis/MD controllers selling.

As for matching the Japan grey Saturn, it would be cool! We have several options floating around... we may need to take a poll and see what we do next.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:23 pm 



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The Japanese grey and white would indeed be logical next choices if you can make a business case for covering all the versions.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
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Has anyone gone for the pink controllers?


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:01 am 



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I would definitely like Grey and White.
I dislike the ugly black controllers Sega had back then.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:18 am 



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Can I run multiple 2.4g Saturn controllers on the PC with one receiver (ie in the same style as Xbox controllers work)? I'm after a decent and practical PC couch co op solution.

Thanks

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I'm not sure I understand. It's one controller to one receiver. You can have multiple controllers and receivers connected to the same console (we did 8-man Smash Ultimate on the Switch with 8 of them, haha). They work swimmingly on PC.



What I mean is: Can I for example run 4 controllers to just one receiver on the PC so I don't have to take up 4 USB ports? ....It seems like this should be possible (that there is easily the bandwidth) given that the Xbox One receiver for PC can work with 4 pads, so can my ancient 360 PC receiver. 4 pads to 4 receivers seems a bit clumsy and impractical.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:21 pm 



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Retro-Bit wrote:

As for North America, we just got our shipment here not long ago. Castlemania should be able to get orders out this week/next week as soon as he gets them. Excitement! Let us know what you think! :D



Does this mean they should be up for order on Amazon.com in the US soon?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm 


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FAXME wrote:
What I mean is: Can I for example run 4 controllers to just one receiver on the PC so I don't have to take up 4 USB ports? ....It seems like this should be possible (that there is easily the bandwidth) given that the Xbox One receiver for PC can work with 4 pads, so can my ancient 360 PC receiver. 4 pads to 4 receivers seems a bit clumsy and impractical.
Thanks again


No, our receivers are only able to sync to one signal at a time. We're a small company so we can only hope to do what a company like Microsoft does. :)



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Does this mean they should be up for order on Amazon.com in the US soon?


Yep! We will post on social media when they go live. We'll be updating our site with links once we get the green light from our Amazon partner.


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:00 pm 



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Retro-Bit, there is also another way to solve this color dilemma. Take that awesome transparent blue and make new cases for the Sega Saturn. Then everything would match for those who want things to match. Perfect solution! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:55 pm 


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PearlJammzz wrote:
Retro-Bit, there is also another way to solve this color dilemma. Take that awesome transparent blue and make new cases for the Sega Saturn. Then everything would match for those who want things to match. Perfect solution! :lol:


Oh, we wish we could do that. Baby steps!


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 Post subject: Re: Retro-bit's Sega controllers
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Where is the Saturn BT receiver? The controller is of no use on the original console without it.


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mario64 wrote:
Where is the Saturn BT receiver? The controller is of no use on the original console without it.


The Bluetooth receivers for Genesis/Mega Drive and Saturn will be released late November or early December. They're being finalized. :)


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mario64 wrote:
Where is the Saturn BT receiver? The controller is of no use on the original console without it.


Using BT and 2.4ghz wireless receivers on the SNES I don't know if I'd ever get another BT controller for use on a retro console again. They work great for modern games where that lag is expected but it sucks on pretty much anything non-RPG. I highly recommend the 2.4ghz options if you want wireless.


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I bought the saturn controller that isn't compatible with the switch last month and the dpad doesn't feel good for the left direction and the shoulder buttons are garbage. Does the newer switch compatible saturn controller fix the dpad and shoulder buttons?


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PearlJammzz wrote:
mario64 wrote:
Where is the Saturn BT receiver? The controller is of no use on the original console without it.


Using BT and 2.4ghz wireless receivers on the SNES I don't know if I'd ever get another BT controller for use on a retro console again. They work great for modern games where that lag is expected but it sucks on pretty much anything non-RPG. I highly recommend the 2.4ghz options if you want wireless.
I'd gladly purchase the 2.4ghz model if it were available in black to match my console


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:45 pm 


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I'm under the impression that 8bitdo's BT has more lag than the Switch Pro Controller (after the latest update) and the PS4 controller (when used on PS4 or PC with BT).


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:14 pm 



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The 2.4 GHz controllers are up on Amazon now. I'm tempted to buy one, but considering that I already own 2 Joyzz pads for my Genesis, I will wait to see some reviews first.


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Thanks for sharing. I picked up a Genesis one for use with the Genesis Mini. Like you, I've got a Joyzz that I've been happy with on the original console.

I was disappointed to see that the Saturn Slate Grey isn't in stock yet. I'll be picking up one of those. I'm looking forward to trying it with my Super Gun as well.


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