Anyway to downscale 1080/720p to 480P 640X480

[Tokyo-J]

Trying to get PlayStation 4 running on a Cabinet. I have Switch running Natively at 480P 4:3 and Xbox One 4:3 with borders. Was wondering if there was any way to downscale 1080/720P to 480P 640 X 480 VGA?

[Fudoh]

hundreds of machines to choose from. Any proper scaler will do this for you. Best to choose something that already has the input and output you need (e.g. HDMI input and VGA output). You usually get full aspect ratio control, meaning you can zoom in to grab a 4:3 portion of your source signal or you letterbox your output as needed.

[Xer Xian]

hundreds of machines to choose from.

Surely not that many that can do everything you've listed in your post?

I can only think of the good old DVDOs and a couple TvONE machines - oh the Crystalio 2 also, but that would be quite an overkill

Edit: Another candidate would be the Extron IN1508. There are a few that fit the bill after all! This is probably the cheapest and most readily available on ebay..

[Fudoh]

there are LOTS. Not everything good, but lots to do the job. If 1080p60 input is required some of the earlier HDMI machines drop out, but this still leaves well over a decade of processors.

[Xer Xian]

Yeah I sort of conceded even before reading your reply

[Fudoh]

Indeed - if size isn't an issue (it's a full rack size in terms of width), then the Extron IN1508 would certainly worth a try at its $30 price tag on ebay right now.

[nmalinoski]

The IN1508 is great, as long as you're not trying to do 240p or need lag-free processing.

[Tokyo-J]

Indeed - if size isn't an issue (it's a full rack size in terms of width), then the Extron IN1508 would certainly worth a try at its $30 price tag on ebay right now.

Grabbed it Thanks. Will let you guys know how it worked out.

[Tokyo-J]

The IN1508 is great, as long as you're not trying to do 240p or need lag-free processing.

This will output in 480P? I do not see an option on the machine itself but I will hope it does.

[nmalinoski]

The IN1508 is great, as long as you're not trying to do 240p or need lag-free processing.

This will output in 480P? I do not see an option on the machine itself but I will hope it does.

Yes, it will do 480p. Take a look at the manual.

[Tokyo-J]

The IN1508 is great, as long as you're not trying to do 240p or need lag-free processing.

This will output in 480P? I do not see an option on the machine itself but I will hope it does.

Yes, it will do 480p. Take a look at the manual.

Thank you a bunch

[spmbx]

You can change the output resolution to 480p in video options on your PS4. Not sure if the pro supports that though.

[Tokyo-J]

You can change the output resolution to 480p in video options on your PS4. Not sure if the pro supports that though.

It does change to 480p however it is not 640 x 480.

[spmbx]

What res is it? My tv does change to a 4:3ish mode (black borders on the side) when i switch to 480p, but i have no option on this set to display exact resolution

[nmalinoski]

You can change the output resolution to 480p in video options on your PS4. Not sure if the pro supports that though.

It does change to 480p however it is not 640 x 480.

To be fair, 480p is not specifically 640x480; it's anywhere between 640x480 and 854x480. Often, it's 720x480, which is what the Dreamcast outputs in its RGBHV mode.

I'm not sure what the PS4 outputs when set to 480p, but I would expect it to be 720x480.

[Tokyo-J]

You can change the output resolution to 480p in video options on your PS4. Not sure if the pro supports that though.

It does change to 480p however it is not 640 x 480.

To be fair, 480p is not specifically 640x480; it's anywhere between 640x480 and 854x480. Often, it's 720x480, which is what the Dreamcast outputs in its RGBHV mode.

I'm not sure what the PS4 outputs when set to 480p, but I would expect it to be 720x480.

PS4 is displaying in 720x480 but on my 480P VGA monitors it is OUT OF RANGE.

[Xer Xian]

About the IN1508 - remember that DVI won't carry audio, so you will have to use the optical out from the consoles, or an audio extractor.

[Tokyo-J]

About the IN1508 - remember that DVI won't carry audio, so you will have to use the optical out from the consoles, or an audio extractor.

Going to do HDMI to VGA and use the audio out jack on the VGA converter.

[nmalinoski]

It does change to 480p however it is not 640 x 480.

To be fair, 480p is not specifically 640x480; it's anywhere between 640x480 and 854x480. Often, it's 720x480, which is what the Dreamcast outputs in its RGBHV mode.

I'm not sure what the PS4 outputs when set to 480p, but I would expect it to be 720x480.

PS4 is displaying in 720x480 but on my 480P VGA monitors it is OUT OF RANGE.

Doesn't surprise me; 480p is not part of the VGA spec. You're going to need a video processor that can crop 480p to VGA 640x480.

What I don't get is why Sony locks its video output to EDTV/HDTV resolutions on the PS3 and PS4, when the Xbox 360 will output at whatever the native resolution of the connected screen is (up to 1080p, anyway). The TV in my living room is a ~1366x768 panel, and that's the resolution that my HDMI-capable Xbox 360 automatically decides to use; but my PS3 will only let me select 480p, 720p, or 1080p (or SD).

[Fudoh]

You're going to need a video processor that can crop 480p to VGA 640x480.

usually both SMPTE 480p and VESA VGA is available as output resolutions on your average video processor.

[NJRoadfan]

PS4 is displaying in 720x480 but on my 480P VGA monitors it is OUT OF RANGE.

This is very unusual if the monitor claims to be multisync and is a CRT. I have CRTs going back to 1995 that have zero issue with SMPTE 480p/EDTV signals. The pixel clock and horizontal scan rate is slightly higher, but usually within tolerance of even fixed frequency VGA displays.

[Classicgamer]

PS4 is displaying in 720x480 but on my 480P VGA monitors it is OUT OF RANGE.

This is very unusual if the monitor claims to be multisync and is a CRT. I have CRTs going back to 1995 that have zero issue with SMPTE 480p/EDTV signals. The pixel clock and horizontal scan rate is slightly higher, but usually within tolerance of even fixed frequency VGA displays.

I was going to say the same thing. Crt monitors usually only care about the number of lines. I can feed my crt tri-sync any horizontal res. The latest Groovymame relies on this for super resolutions.

When I use my PS3 in 480p on my crt arcade monitor, I have to set the display to 480p and remove any higher res from the list. I.e., if I leave 720p or 1080p, the PS3 will switch to the closest res to the game if it thinks the display supports it. So it has to be set to 480p only.

I don't know if the PS4 work the same way but the horizontal res in 480p seems to be dictated by the game, not the console. Sega Ralley, for example, outputs in 640x480 4:3 but Daytona only outputs in a wider 16:9 res so I have to use the monitor's V-Size pot to stretch it back to full screen 4:3.

Is a CRT monitor being used in this instance?

[Tokyo-J]

PS4 is displaying in 720x480 but on my 480P VGA monitors it is OUT OF RANGE.

This is very unusual if the monitor claims to be multisync and is a CRT. I have CRTs going back to 1995 that have zero issue with SMPTE 480p/EDTV signals. The pixel clock and horizontal scan rate is slightly higher, but usually within tolerance of even fixed frequency VGA displays.

I was going to say the same thing. Crt monitors usually only care about the number of lines. I can feed my crt tri-sync any horizontal res. The latest Groovymame relies on this for super resolutions.

When I use my PS3 in 480p on my crt arcade monitor, I have to set the display to 480p and remove any higher res from the list. I.e., if I leave 720p or 1080p, the PS3 will switch to the closest res to the game if it thinks the display supports it. So it has to be set to 480p only.

I don't know if the PS4 work the same way but the horizontal res in 480p seems to be dictated by the game, not the console. Sega Ralley, for example, outputs in 640x480 4:3 but Daytona only outputs in a wider 16:9 res so I have to use the monitor's V-Size pot to stretch it back to full screen 4:3.

Is a CRT monitor being used in this instance?

I have 3 VGA Monitors. Toshiba 36", Nanao 29 ", and a Sanwa 29". For PS4 the issue has been getting a signal to display despite having the settings on 480P. This is the only console that has done this to me.

[Tokyo-J]

hundreds of machines to choose from.

Surely not that many that can do everything you've listed in your post?

I can only think of the good old DVDOs and a couple TvONE machines - oh the Crystalio 2 also, but that would be quite an overkill

Edit: Another candidate would be the Extron IN1508. There are a few that fit the bill after all! This is probably the cheapest and most readily available on ebay..

The Extron worked. I have PS4 running on an Arcade cabinet now. Street Fighter V looks brilliant on the CRT VGA Monitor.

[strayan]

Hey people I stumbled upon this thread looking for a device to downscale 1080p(i)/720p/576p(i)/480p to 852x480 (the native resolution of the plasma TV I have). It would need to have at least 1x HDMI-in and 1x HDMI-out.

Additionally, according to the Extron website, their devices employ motion adaptive deinterlacing. Is there any way to disable this or change it to a different type? I'd prefer the device I buy to handle interlaced content the same way the ultrahdmi does.

[Xer Xian]

Hey people I stumbled upon this thread looking for a device to downscale 1080p(i)/720p/576p(i)/480p to 852x480 (the native resolution of the plasma TV I have). It would need to have at least 1x HDMI-in and 1x HDMI-out.

Extron DSC 301 HD or DVDO VP-30 / VP-50 are your best options. The former has better scaling, the latter better deinterlacing.

Although personally, I'd probably rather save the money towards a new TV.