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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:13 am 



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strayan wrote:
Drunk_Caterpillar wrote:
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but is the UltraHDMI firmware still in development? Deinterlacing seems really spotty on a few games that I've tried it with. Also, kinda curious if it's possible to implement a 240p output over HDMI.


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Thanks for the help. Good to know!

The reason I brought it up is that I think the smooth scaling on the RetroTink2x looks pretty good, and I would wager that the OSSC Pro will have something similar. Seeing as it has an HDMI input, I imagined a scenario where I could feed my UltraHDMI at 240p in to the OSSC Pro to get a smoothed 1080p image out of the combination of the two. Problem is that I don't think you can smooth out content that has already been line doubled.

I wonder if RetroTink-style smoothing could be done internally on the UltraHDMI... I mean, it's still the N64 so it'd kinda be like making a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but it's still an improvement some of the time.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:41 am 


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A quick update: Marshall just received flex PCBs from the factory in China. This is the secondary flex PCB, which carries analog signals from UltraHDMI's DAC module to the N64 AV multi-out connector. These will be paired with the small batch of final UltraHDMI HW2 boards he made in a test production in September (several dozen units). The December 31 order of 150 UltraHDMI units is still in-production after many delays with the factory in China.

There's a minor issue with the flex PCBs that just arrived. Marshall believes he can fix them manually with a hole-punch.

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Marshall
- finally got the flexes
- main flex seems fine
- the analog flex was produced without the proper holes
- [image]
- got some 1.25/1.5mm hole punches on the way



Image
Bigger: https://i.imgur.com/GN5q5tq.jpg

With some small holes in those circular pads, the pins of the N64's AV multi-out will poke through so the flex can be soldered to the existing pins.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 pm 



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Ichinisan wrote:
A quick update: Marshall just received flex PCBs from the factory in China. This is the secondary flex PCB, which carries analog signals from UltraHDMI's DAC module to the N64 AV multi-out connector. These will be paired with the small batch of final UltraHDMI HW2 boards he made in a test production in September (several dozen units). The December 31 order of 150 UltraHDMI units is still in-production after many delays with the factory in China.

There's a minor issue with the flex PCBs that just arrived. Marshall believes he can fix them manually with a hole-punch.

Quote:
Marshall
- finally got the flexes
- main flex seems fine
- the analog flex was produced without the proper holes
- [image]
- got some 1.25/1.5mm hole punches on the way


Bigger: https://i.imgur.com/GN5q5tq.jpg

With some small holes in those circular pads, the pins of the N64's AV multi-out will poke through so the flex can be soldered to the existing pins.

Thanks for the update. Will that small batch of several dozen be going to round 7 pre-orders?


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:03 pm 


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edd247 wrote:
Ichinisan wrote:
A quick update: Marshall just received flex PCBs from the factory in China. This is the secondary flex PCB, which carries analog signals from UltraHDMI's DAC module to the N64 AV multi-out connector. These will be paired with the small batch of final UltraHDMI HW2 boards he made in a test production in September (several dozen units). The December 31 order of 150 UltraHDMI units is still in-production after many delays with the factory in China.

There's a minor issue with the flex PCBs that just arrived. Marshall believes he can fix them manually with a hole-punch.

Quote:
Marshall
- finally got the flexes
- main flex seems fine
- the analog flex was produced without the proper holes
- [image]
- got some 1.25/1.5mm hole punches on the way


Bigger: https://i.imgur.com/GN5q5tq.jpg

With some small holes in those circular pads, the pins of the N64's AV multi-out will poke through so the flex can be soldered to the existing pins.

Thanks for the update. Will that small batch of several dozen be going to round 7 pre-orders?


Yes. The list is sorted by the date+time I received payment for the kit. I will assign the kits to group-buy participants once I receive and test all of them.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:36 am 



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Ichinisan,

This is getting exciting. Not sure if my messages are showing up on the forum. I just signed up for the forum and wanted to see if you got my email request on the 14th for x5 kits. Please let me know and where i can submit payment.
Thank you and have a great day.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:40 am 



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Has it been disclosed yet whether the analogue output is original modes, post-processed, or selectable?


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:30 pm 



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Thanks for the update!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm 


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nmalinoski wrote:
Has it been disclosed yet whether the analogue output is original modes, post-processed, or selectable?

I too would like to know this. It would also be good to know if the analog output resolution can be set independently of the HDMI output (e.g. 480p HDMI with 240p Analog)


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 1:12 am 


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nmalinoski wrote:
Has it been disclosed yet whether the analogue output is original modes, post-processed, or selectable?


Link83 wrote:
nmalinoski wrote:
Has it been disclosed yet whether the analogue output is original modes, post-processed, or selectable?

I too would like to know this. It would also be good to know if the analog output resolution can be set independently of the HDMI output (e.g. 480p HDMI with 240p Analog)


Got an answer from Marshall:

Ichinisan
- asking if the Y/Pb/Pr output supports 480p / 720p / etc.
- I assume it's native resolution only (240p / 480i).

Marshall
- yeah it is native only. the only processing is gamma and deblur


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:16 pm 



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Hi Ichinisan,

how can I reach you for pre ordering 2 ultrahdmi kits?

After a long internet search I just found this forum :) I just registered here but can't find a button to send you a private message for my pre order.

Best,
magnus


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 6:13 am 



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I’d love to know if it’s possible for the ultrahdmi to output 240p120.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:03 am 


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magnus wrote:
Hi Ichinisan,

how can I reach you for pre ordering 2 ultrahdmi kits?

After a long internet search I just found this forum :) I just registered here but can't find a button to send you a private message for my pre order.

Best,
magnus


His email address (along with all the information he needs from you when you make the order) is all in the first post of this thread!


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:58 pm 



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strayan wrote:
I’d love to know if it’s possible for the ultrahdmi to output 240p120.

I believe that would be within the bandwidth limitations, but why? It's not like the N64 can render at 120fps; all it would be doing is repeating frames and introducing more display lag than necessary.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:19 pm 



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nmalinoski wrote:
strayan wrote:
I’d love to know if it’s possible for the ultrahdmi to output 240p120.

I believe that would be within the bandwidth limitations, but why? It's not like the N64 can render at 120fps; all it would be doing is repeating frames and introducing more display lag than necessary.


For the same reason SWISS does. Scanlines on a 31kHz CRT.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 1:52 pm 


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strayan wrote:
For the same reason SWISS does. Scanlines on a 31kHz CRT.

? That's not a thing Swiss does. At least not yet.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:06 pm 



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Extrems wrote:
strayan wrote:
For the same reason SWISS does. Scanlines on a 31kHz CRT.

? That's not a thing Swiss does. At least not yet.


GBI, apologies.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:10 pm 


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Well, the reason there was to reduce end-to-end latency.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:09 pm 



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Extrems wrote:
strayan wrote:
For the same reason SWISS does. Scanlines on a 31kHz CRT.

? That's not a thing Swiss does. At least not yet.


Wait, what? It's possible?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:15 pm 


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Yes, it is possible, but it's tricky to make the necessary patches to the Dolphin SDK.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:55 pm 



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I’d like to get in on this round for 1 UltraHDMI kit please

EDIT: Sent email this morning! Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:03 pm 



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Emailed OP to get in on the pre-order.. thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:10 pm 



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Emailed OP to get in on the pre-order.

@Ichinisan I'll submit payment as soon as you kindly let me know to where :)

Thanks folks - this has made my year - my 8 year old daughter is running around in glee over this news :)

My newish TV does not accept the n64 signal so I've been attempting to play my cartridges' z64 that I've harvested using my INLretro/Kazzo
Alas, emulation is glitchy at best even using a powerful pc. Favorite games frequently crash and some will not play properly at all.

I'm salivating over the thought of combining the UltraHDMI along with an krikzz.Everdrive - hopefully I can move all the saves over from my pc.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:07 am 


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Hi, everyone. I haven't heard anything else from Marshall about fixing those analog flex PCBs and sending me the first batch of HW2 kits, but I will update as soon as I hear anything.

I've been working on things at home but I'll try to respond to some emails tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:45 am 



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@Ichinisan

Hi James,

I'm interested in joining the 7th round of UltraHDMI orders.

I sent you an email earlier that answers all the questions you listed in the OP.

I will forward the payment as soon as you send details.

Thanks!


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Hello all, if you are still accepting people on the wait list, i am happy to put my name down and follow the guidelines set! my email is arnold.dajar@gmail.com and i will be messaging the OP as well


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:20 pm 



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E-mail sent. Looking forward to getting in on the group buy!


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:31 pm 


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Still working to catch up on email.

Marshall contacted me last night. I expected to receive a bunch of test units last year, but it looks like I'll finally get something very soon. He implied the firmware is still being tweaked a bit.

Marshall
- the rgb flex works perfect
- how about i send you a test unit before i finalize the firmware 100%
- or there will be units with bugs :)
- [pic1]
- [pic2]

Ichinisan
- That will be great! Also I can update each one when I test them (if that will save you the trouble). I would use my EverDrive v2.5
- Having one to experiment with would be great. I'd test to see if an updated' "no-cut" design is needed since so many people want that.

Image
bigger: https://i.imgur.com/fbA6KIT.jpg
Top-down photo. Wires are for a temporary header so Marshall can continually reprogram the board while developing firmware. That way he won't need to package updates in an N64 ROM file or keep shuffling the boards and cables around.

Image
bigger: https://i.imgur.com/HjUfBJ0.jpg
Photo from underneath. Secondary flex PCB from DAC connects to N64's AV multi-out. DAC has a push-on connector to interface with UltraHDMI HW2.


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 Post subject: Re: UltraHDMI group-buy ROUND 7 - accepting participants
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Are there still slots in the group buy for ultrahdmi? I emailed the address listed in the first post and got no reply.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:52 pm 


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Are there still slots in the group buy for ultrahdmi? I emailed the address listed in the first post and got no reply.


Yessir! I will finish going through 10 days of email backlog tonight.


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Good info and thanks for sharing the pictures. I'm looking forward to keeping one my favorite systems forward-compatible with TV connections.

Side note, since others may see this and buy one of these, too. Are you comfortable doing the WiiDual installation? I pre-ordered one of those and these are the installation instructions.


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