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Can you safely use EURO Power AC Adapters with US Wii/Wii U?

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Here are some pictures between the Wii US Adapter (Left Side) and EURO AC Adapter (Right Side):

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As you can the the input is different (120V 53W and 60Hz for the US one and 230V ~50Hz and 52W for the EURO one) while the output is the same (12V 3.7A).

There are some other differences, the US one is called "Wii AC Adapter" and the EURO one is called "Wii Power Supply", also the EURO one is larger than the US one.

Think I can use Wii and Wii U US version consoles and Gamepad with EURO AC Adapters or not?
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You will need a step down transformer to use the EUR adapter on a US Wii.
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Think I can use Wii and Wii U US version consoles and Gamepad with EURO AC Adapters or not?
of course you can. And the same goes for N64, GameCube, XBox360, Mega Drive and many others.
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Yes you can. You just need to run it off your 240v circuit I your panel.

You can either wire in the euro socket from your dryer plug, range, or water heater. You can either turn off the panel and do it yourself :lol: or call an electrician.
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AndehX wrote:You will need a step down transformer to use the EUR adapter on a US Wii.
Why would that be? The ouput is not in 100v-120V 220v-240v, its the job of the AC Adapters to work it out, not the consoles.

Beside, the US Wi U AC Adapters for the both the Wii U and the GamePad are Multi voltage:

http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii- ... ti_voltage

http://www.ign.com/blogs/chuck0latte/20 ... al-voltage

I am in Europe (230V) and my step down converter only has 2 outlets, its not a problem for every console except the Wii U which kind of requires two power outlets (1 for the console and 1 for the GamePad), so if I can Id rather hook them directly to my main power outlets if possible. (I am using a US Wii U).

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Think I can use Wii and Wii U US version consoles and Gamepad with EURO AC Adapters or not?
of course you can. And the same goes for N64, GameCube, XBox360, Mega Drive and many others.
Thank you Fudoh, I did not even know that, but now that you mention it, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Gamecube etc. All come with an AC Adapter rather than just a power cable.
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They both have the same output capability (DC 12V, 3.7A with same pin polarity), so as long as you provide the correct input voltage (use the US adapter in 120V environments like the US, and the Euro adapter 230V environments), then it doesn't matter what kind of Wii you plug it into.

The general rule of thumb with using adapters is: if the output is the same (voltage, polarity, and to a lesser extent current rating), and the plug fits, then it will work.
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Thank you Fudoh, I did not even know that, but now that you mention it, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Gamecube etc. All come with an AC Adapter rather than just a power cable.
SNES is the only exception though, since the European SNES PSUs have an AC output, while most (all?) other video games systems use a DC output from their PSUs, so you cannot use an European SNES PSU with a japanese SFC or American SNES.
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Tranquilite wrote:They both have the same output capability (DC 12V, 3.7A with same pin polarity), so as long as you provide the correct input voltage (use the US adapter in 120V environments like the US, and the Euro adapter 230V environments), then it doesn't matter what kind of Wii you plug it into.

The general rule of thumb with using adapters is: if the output is the same (voltage, polarity, and to a lesser extent current rating), and the plug fits, then it will work.
Thanks, that's helpful too, so ONLY the Wii U AC Adapters are Multi Voltage, but not the Wii AC Adapters?

Know any place that sells Official EURO Wii U and GamePad AC Adapters? Apparently, from what I can tell only in Japan and the US does Nintendo sell AC Adapters alone:


Wii U AC Adapter:

Japan: http://www.play-asia.com/wii-u-console- ... /13/708qr7

US: https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/p ... =prod10148


Wii U GamePad AC Adapter:

Japan: http://www.play-asia.com/wii-u-gamepad- ... /13/708qr9

US: https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/p ... =prod10136

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Thank you Fudoh, I did not even know that, but now that you mention it, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Gamecube etc. All come with an AC Adapter rather than just a power cable.
SNES is the only exception though, since the European SNES PSUs have an AC output, while most (all?) other video games systems use a DC output from their PSUs, so you cannot use an European SNES PSU with a japanese SFC or American SNES.
Oh okay, did not know that, thanks.
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Lawfer wrote:
AndehX wrote:You will need a step down transformer to use the EUR adapter on a US Wii.
Why would that be? The ouput is not in 100v-120V 220v-240v, its the job of the AC Adapters to work it out, not the consoles.
I was refering to plugging the adapter into the wall, not the console. Appologies for the confusion
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Fudoh wrote: while most (all?) other video games systems use a DC output from their PSUs
The US NES power supply outputs AC as well. There's warnings all over forums not to use it on an imported Famicom.
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AndehX wrote:
Lawfer wrote:
AndehX wrote:You will need a step down transformer to use the EUR adapter on a US Wii.
Why would that be? The ouput is not in 100v-120V 220v-240v, its the job of the AC Adapters to work it out, not the consoles.
I was refering to plugging the adapter into the wall, not the console. Appologies for the confusion
All US homes have 220-240v circuits in their panels. You just need to wire an appropriate outlet. The problem with our 240v power when using pal devices is the hz.

We're at 60 strikes a second USA, Europe is on 50 strikes a second. So even when powered off the right circuit, you will have timing issues and be overdriving your current by 20%.

So when your running you can actually fix a few pal games and get better exults by running them off 60hz instead of 50. xenoblade chronicles is a good example. This game was not pal optimized so it runs slower than it could at 50hz when even the pal game is capable 60hz at 220v. I don't remember the benefits but faster loading times and less pop up were attributed to running. The game on an unlocked Wii on 60hz.

The problem you will run into is pal optimized games on 60 hz. if you want to do it right you will need a 240v step down transformer to from 240v 60hz to 220-230v 50hz. Some arcade folk might be able to suggest a good one
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he problem you will run into is pal optimized games on 60 hz. if you want to do it right you will need a 240v step down transformer to from 240v 60hz to 220-230v 50hz. Some arcade folk might be able to suggest a good one
The frequency of the power input has not had anything to do with the number of frames per second since long before I or most other people on this forum were alive, and I can't think of any video game console (certainly none in or after the 8-bit era) that tied the refresh rate to the utility cycle. Consider that the Wii is a DC-powered console, and is completely oblivious to the frequency of the power that being fed into its transformer. There is no problem using a US Wii for NTSC games and an EU Wii for PAL games, using the same EU power brick for both.
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Guspaz wrote:
he problem you will run into is pal optimized games on 60 hz. if you want to do it right you will need a 240v step down transformer to from 240v 60hz to 220-230v 50hz. Some arcade folk might be able to suggest a good one
The frequency of the power input has not had anything to do with the number of frames per second since long before I or most other people on this forum were alive, and I can't think of any video game console (certainly none in or after the 8-bit era) that tied the refresh rate to the utility cycle. Consider that the Wii is a DC-powered console, and is completely oblivious to the frequency of the power that being fed into its transformer. There is no problem using a US Wii for NTSC games and an EU Wii for PAL games, using the same EU power brick for both.
I think it is. How does your pal Wii know how to run 230v at 60hz? Is it the power input or is it manualy chosen or just supported if the Wii detects a 60hz signal?
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Hoagtech, maybe you shouldn't try to make assumptions about technical details that obviously go way above your head.

Switching multi voltage power supplies have electronic parts that can handle input AC voltages from 100~230v and deliver the DC voltage desired by the device. The AC frequency is unimportant, since the DC voltage that all the internal components are powered by has no frequency, since, you know, is is DC.

The video sync frequency has nothing to do with the AC input voltage either, mainly because the video sync frequency is usually generated by an oscilating crystal of some sort.
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kamiboy wrote:Hoagtech, maybe you shouldn't try to make assumptions about technical details that obviously go way above your head.

Switching multi voltage power supplies have electronic parts that can handle input AC voltages from 100~230v and deliver the DC voltage desired by the device. The AC frequency is unimportant, since the DC voltage that all the internal components are powered by has no frequency, since, you know, is is DC.

The video sync frequency has nothing to do with the AC input voltage either, mainly because the video sync frequency is usually generated by an oscilating crystal of some sort.
It's not a multi voltage power supply. My csy2100 is 100-240v input and 50/60hz. His Wii pal PSU is made to receive 230v 50hz and outputs the same DC current amp load.

If he severed the cord and installed a U.S. 120v cord, the PSU would not be able to "adapt" the 120v current to output to the DC current as all Wiis run on. He would need 240v receptacle and a step down transformer to fix the input timing so he wouldn't under run his capacitors and blow his PSU.

the difference between 60hz 240v and 50hz 230 volt is your loading your current at 10 more volts 20% times more per second.

You may be right that the sync is not determined by the input, but why does pal Wii support 60hz sync timing in certain regions? Does it detect 60hz displays or does it detect power input?
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The Wii is capable of outputting video in both 60 and 50hz. Whether it uses one or the other is determined in software.

Most "modern" consoles, from the PS2 era and later, support this. In fact some older generation consoles, for example the Master System and Mega Drive, were also technically capable of outputting both frequencies, but had to be switched from one mode to the other by hardware mods feeding a voltage or grounding certain pins on the GPU/CPU chips, that would swap between modes.

As for the 20% difference that different voltage cycles result in. I do not think that is anything to worry about. Any well designed PSU should be designed to handle a bit of extra load.
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The Wii is virtually the same everywhere, what makes a NTSC US Wii an NTSC US Wii is the US firmware, what makes a PAL Wii a PAL Wii is the firmware. This isnt like the US Genesis and the PAL Megadrive that where different on the inside.
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Well to answer the ops question. There is not a "good way" to run a euro power supply with a U.S. Wii.

Your best option would be to buy a euro supply for your U.S. wii only when your in Europe because all Wiis accept the same output 3.7 Amp 12V. The power supply's do not accept the same input but can be translated of your into it but would require either a 2220-240v circuit or a 120v step down transformer if your in Europe going the other way.
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Hoagtech wrote:Well to answer the ops question. There is not a "good way" to run a euro power supply with a U.S. Wii.
Lawfer's question was if he could use a EU power supply in Europe with a US console. The answer is yes.
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blizzz wrote:
Hoagtech wrote:Well to answer the ops question. There is not a "good way" to run a euro power supply with a U.S. Wii.
Lawfer's question was if he could use a EU power supply in Europe with a US console. The answer is yes.
By U.S. Wii I meant US Wii in U.S.a. He asked if he could use a euro ac adapter on his U.S. Wii so It depends on where you live. If your plugging in a U.S. Wii in the USA with a Pal Power supply.

It would not a be good idea to go to the extremities of translating voltage.

Even so there are tvs in Europe that will not accept the forced 60hz of your U.S. Wii. But USA has less support for PAL than Europe has support for ntsc.
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He's asking if he can use an EU power supply with a US Wii. Clearly he's in the EU but wants to use a US Wii. You're really making no sense here.
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Guspaz wrote:He's asking if he can use an EU power supply with a US Wii. Clearly he's in the EU but wants to use a US Wii. You're really making no sense here.
Well I misunderstood his point. I didn't know he was from Europe until a later post and I originally breezed the first sentence because those images are huge (not a bad thing).

He still might have sync issues who knows? I am just glad I learned a little more about TV and technology. :)
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Guspaz wrote:He's asking if he can use an EU power supply with a US Wii. Clearly he's in the EU but wants to use a US Wii. You're really making no sense here.
Yep, the pictures on the opening post were taken by me because I own both a US Wii and a PAL Wii (barely used it, I originally picked it up when it was uncertain if Xenoblade Chronicles, Last Story and Panodra's Tower would be released in the US, and I also got the two other games never released in the US such as Disaster: Day of Crisis and Another Code R), the electricity is 230V here, so of course I would rather use that instead of 115V if I dont need to.
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Lawfer wrote:
Guspaz wrote:He's asking if he can use an EU power supply with a US Wii. Clearly he's in the EU but wants to use a US Wii. You're really making no sense here.
Yep, the pictures on the opening post were taken by me because I own both a US Wii and a PAL Wii (barely used it, I originally picked it up when it was uncertain if Xenoblade Chronicles, Last Story and Panodra's Tower would be released in the US, and I also got the two other games never released in the US such as Disaster: Day of Crisis and Another Code R), the electricity is 230V here, so of course I would rather use that instead of 115V if I dont need to.
Nice collection. how is Last Story? That title always intrigued me.
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Hoagtech wrote:
Lawfer wrote:
Guspaz wrote:He's asking if he can use an EU power supply with a US Wii. Clearly he's in the EU but wants to use a US Wii. You're really making no sense here.
Yep, the pictures on the opening post were taken by me because I own both a US Wii and a PAL Wii (barely used it, I originally picked it up when it was uncertain if Xenoblade Chronicles, Last Story and Panodra's Tower would be released in the US, and I also got the two other games never released in the US such as Disaster: Day of Crisis and Another Code R), the electricity is 230V here, so of course I would rather use that instead of 115V if I dont need to.
Nice collection. how is Last Story? That title always intrigued me.
It was released in the US by XSEED who also published Pandora's Tower, from what I understand the only reason Nintendo of America finally caved in and decided to release a small print of Xenoblade Chronicles was because it was at the request of Gamestop.

The Last Story was published by Nintendo in Japan and Europe and by XSEED in the US, it is an action dungeon rpg with multiplayer option (Nintendo shut down multiplayer capabilities since 2014 though) similar to I guess, Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga? Its pretty good, it was the last title developed by Mistwalker (Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon).
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