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Re: XRGB-mini FLAME MEISTER G2 (new scaler)

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MVS > XRGB-3 B1 > Gefen doesn't work. The image keeps popping up and disappearing again. V-sync doesn't change anything.

Same thing with Master System in both 50 and 60Hz.
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And that's exactly why I believe that the FM will provide a fix by adjusting the output framerate to a straight 59.94hz no matter what.

The MVS is also too far off from the standard NTSC timing to be affected by the XRGB's v-sync option.
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Any chance that the Edge will work with MVS and Master System?
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I haven't tested it on the edge, but on other DVDO units this works fine.

MVS -> XRGB -> DVDO also works nice.
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Thank you once again. I'll consider the Edge :)
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Konsolkongen wrote:Thank you once again. I'll consider the Edge :)
Not sure what you can dig them up for over there but if you're interested a Canadian chain-store here is blowing them out for $249 CAD (according to a forum post--I'd have to chase that up for you to verify).

Let me know. Not sure what it would cost to ship to you. I've snagged a number of tough items to find from members on this board--would love the opportunity to "pay it forward". =)
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Fudoh wrote:I haven't tested it on the edge, but on other DVDO units this works fine.

MVS -> XRGB -> DVDO also works nice.
Don't the DVDO units add ringing when scaling from one rez to another, or was that just for <480p signals?
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yes, they do. But on a already quite detailed picture like the XRGB's B1 output with scanlines it's really ok. Nothing to worry about.
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HDgaming42 wrote:
Not sure what you can dig them up for over there but if you're interested a Canadian chain-store here is blowing them out for $249 CAD (according to a forum post--I'd have to chase that up for you to verify).

Let me know. Not sure what it would cost to ship to you. I've snagged a number of tough items to find from members on this board--would love the opportunity to "pay it forward". =)
Wow, that is a good deal for the edge, I paid ~$450 USD for mine and it was totally worth it.

I am still very pleased with it since I posted last time(in the xrgb thread). I have been playing Pier Solar(genesis/megadrive rpg) with enhanced music cd with rgb scart to jrgb->xrgb-3->dvdo edge->TV. It's videogame bliss...

As much as I've messed with different equipment to get the image I want, I have been very pleased with this setup AKA actually playing games as opposed to tweaking.
Current Setup:

720P------------------------v
240P->XRGB-3->Edge->4x2 matrix->DLP HDTV
480i/P->YPbPrselect-^ . . ^ . . V-->hdmi2vga->Super Emotia->Tate CRT SDTV
PC->vga2hdmi-------------^
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Does the Edge's power input support both 110 and 240V?
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Konsolkongen wrote:Does the Edge's power input support both 110 and 240V?
The spec sheet says YES!

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/docs/pdf/D ... asheet.pdf
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RGB32E wrote:
Konsolkongen wrote:Does the Edge's power input support both 110 and 240V?
The spec sheet says YES!

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/docs/pdf/D ... asheet.pdf
Hurray! Thank you I downloaded the manual but didn't find the spec info there.
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No joy getting the SMS working stable on my XRGB3->DVDO Edge setup I'm afraid. This is using a Megadrive with a SMS converter.
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I'm using a Master System Converter too. What's the problem with Master System :/

I need to play Lucky Dime Caper with scanlines. That game kicks!

EDIT: I'm still going to buy an Edge :)
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Ok this is going way off topic but....

On the SMS you get a picture at first but it keeps coming and going. Also, contrary to what Fudoh says, I've had someone write into my site asking why MVS->XRGB3->DVDO Edge does NOT work. Though I don't own a MVS so I can't say from personal experience, but perhaps the VP50 has better/more tolerant VGA processing than the Edge? Incidentally I was using a PAL SMS game on an NTSC Genesis, so further investigation is warranted :)

As luck would have it I've just picked up a Gefen cheaply from E-bay, I intend to compare the two so I'll let you know. I also have trouble with PS2, PC Engine and occasionally Saturn losing picture when going XRGB3->DVDO Edge->TV, though there are probably ways to troubleshoot these that I'm still investigating.
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I also have trouble with PS2, PC Engine and occasionally Saturn losing picture when going XRGB3->DVDO Edge->TV
why are we posting this in the Flame Meister thread ? ;)

You have unlocked the output frequency right on your Edge, right ?

I should have the opportunity to revisit the MVS problem sometime soon. Basically because I wanted to test MVS->DVDO->SLG3000, but I hope to be able to try it on th Edge as well.
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You have unlocked the output frequency right on your Edge, right ?
Actually no, I'm not sure I have and I promise this is the last post in this thread on this unrelated topic from me :)
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some news from micomsoft

1)XRGB-mini is in the final phase of development. The final prototype is manufactured at the factory now. The firmware is debugged now.

2)they also annonced a new product, it is a capture card for the game users. DVI digital, analog RGB, and HD component input.
In addition, they are working on a C-SYNC separation unit. If the C-SYNC separation unit is used, capture from RGB21pin(JP)is possible (SuperFamicom(SNES, PS1/PS2、MegaDrive、Sega Saturn...)

It is possible to use it also for a part of arcade game PCB.

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3) finally, xrgb-3 special firmware (2.21aj) will not be released in english for while (maybe never but I will still ask for it)

thats all :wink:
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Interesting times ahead for sure, the c-sync separator looks interesting, wonder if that will cure problems with screen blanking using composite video for sync on the XRGB3.

Also, wonder if their capture card will have real-time display, so that you could use it to rotate the output from arcade boards, like the Holo3D can?
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Will especially be interesting to see how good the 240p capture quality end up. With their XRGB-3 screen capture tool they've set the bar rather high and I'm not sure they can fullfill the expections into a 240p video capture device the same way.
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akumajo wrote: 3) finally, xrgb-3 special firmware (2.21aj) will not be released in english for while (maybe never but I will still ask for it)
Lame... :(
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Any more news on this?
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Not the XRGB-mini, but Micomsoft has their capture card/XSYNC-1 product page up:

http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/sc-500n1.htm

http://micomsoft.co.jp/shop/sc-500n1.html

I would be fun to try out the XSYNC-1 with the XRGB-3 to see what it does! From the shop page, it looks like these are sold as one offs to customers. :?
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only 50 units available...
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http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/cgi-bin/deve ... .cgi?no=36

Final board design is done.
They compare Frame Meister as "Coffee from selected beans"
whereas XRGB-3 is "Coffee from cultivated beans". Whatever that means.
In any case, supposed to be less latency and better quality than XRGB-3.

There's also a mention that they're considering supporting 21 pin RGB
for older consoles and PCBs.
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In any case, supposed to be less latency and better quality than XRGB-3 in B0.
now it's correct.

Very much looking forward to the new hardware. If the design is still based on a Marvell processor then it shouldn't be too hard to create some good 480i performance.

The Mini Din-8 on front better be a RGB input.
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What product are you talking about? The black micomsoft thing with the female scart or the PC board?
This industry has become 2 dimensional as it transcended into a 3D world.
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neither nor. The thing with the female scart is a J-scart switch box and the PC board is a capture card.

I was talking about the new XRGB-mini.
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Wasn't it supposed to have VGA in? I guess the 8-pin mini DIN could be used for this as well?

I'm really looking forward to hearing more about this product. I hope that it running the XRGB-3 through it will be a good solution for TV's that doesn't support the XRGB-3's B1 mode or have VGA input.

EDIT: Is that a Micro SD slot in the top right?
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edit: NM, i see what you're seeing

"Everyone will fit into your mouth or what?" what a wonderful translation google.
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