I'm missing joy in my life...

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:16 pm

A joystick, I mean. Are there any high-quality sticks that can be had for less than $100? I was thinking about the SF:AC stick, but I've heard a lot of complaints about it. The new Hori Special Real Arcade Pros seem really awesome, but they're a bit pricy and I wouldn't know where to get one in the first place.

So, while I scavenge around for a custom Sanwa stick at a reasonable price, does anyone have any suggestions? If nobody has any better ideas I guess I'll just cave and get the original Real Arcade Pro...

BIG · Post by **BIG** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:18 am

Namco Tekken Stick.

BIG-

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:32 am

Well I have absolutely fallen in love with my Hori Fighting Stick EX. Of course it's for the xbox so you might not have much to play.

ZartanLovesYou · Post by **ZartanLovesYou** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:45 am

http://www.justplaingaming.com/

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:20 am

Yeah, I've been to Just Plain Gaming, but I don't like the design of the sticks and they're a little pricy.

I'm looking at this now:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-7 ... 0-4ra.html

It's not a Real Arcade Pro, but I figure if I use a Play-Asia coupon, I'll get it for about $70 shipped. Does anyone have any experience with this stick? Or really, any suggestions are welcome.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:41 am

I don't have much experience with sticksl, but the best I've tried out yet is the Hori Real Arcade Pro. It can be a little hard to pull diagonals, though that's only because I'm not used to sticks. I have a similar problem with my Saturn Virtua Stick. If you decide on the Pro, please don't get it from Play-Asia if you're located in the USA; they'll rip you apart with the shipping fee.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:49 am

Last week I won a Namco Arcade Stick from eBay for $86. Though with shipping (UK seller) it was over $100, but still.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:01 am

Yikes Ghegs, if that was the PS1 stick with the yellow buttons, Psikyo was selling his for $60 shipped. =/

Did you get yours from an import shop, UFO? I've shopped around and I don't see a better option than Play-Asia, really. Right now I'm hoping to score a modded Hori RAP from a guy at Shoryuken.com, but he put it up for sale over a month ago so I'm guessing I'll be out of luck there.

Can anyone explain to me what this square gate/octagonal gate business is? The fighting game community seems to have plenty of gripes about Japanese sticks because of them.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:28 am

mannerbot wrote:Yikes Ghegs, if that was the PS1 stick with the yellow buttons, Psikyo was selling his for $60 shipped. =/

True, but since I got mine from a UK seller A) the shipping costs are less (that is, if PPPP would've even shipped overseas, there's definately going to be an increase in price) and B) I'll be getting the stick as early as this week. So it evens out a bit, I think.

DantesInferno · Post by **DantesInferno** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:29 am

mannerbot wrote:Yeah, I've been to Just Plain Gaming, but I don't like the design of the sticks and they're a little pricy.

I'm looking at this now:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-7 ... 0-4ra.html

It's not a Real Arcade Pro, but I figure if I use a Play-Asia coupon, I'll get it for about $70 shipped. Does anyone have any experience with this stick? Or really, any suggestions are welcome.

I have this stick..and I like it a lot..I find that it works just as well as the Real Arcade Pro. The pro has a few more bells and whistles, but all in all, the Fighting Stick 2 is a great joystick. I think hori is bringing out a couple Special Edition Real Arcade Pro sticks..

http://www.horistore.com/shop/item_detail?id=260
http://www.horistore.com/shop/item_detail?id=261

UnscathedFlyingObject · Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:42 am

mannerbot wrote:Did you get yours from an import shop, UFO? I've shopped around and I don't see a better option than Play-Asia, really. Right now I'm hoping to score a modded Hori RAP from a guy at Shoryuken.com, but he put it up for sale over a month ago so I'm guessing I'll be out of luck there.

I got mine from NCSX, which had a higher item price but much much cheaper delivery, 8 dollars compared with Play-Asia's whopping 50. Good luck with that modded RAP.

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:12 am

UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:
mannerbot wrote:Did you get yours from an import shop, UFO? I've shopped around and I don't see a better option than Play-Asia, really. Right now I'm hoping to score a modded Hori RAP from a guy at Shoryuken.com, but he put it up for sale over a month ago so I'm guessing I'll be out of luck there.
I got mine from NCSX, which had a higher item price but much much cheaper delivery, 8 dollars compared with Play-Asia's whopping 50. Good luck with that modded RAP.

DUDE! You probably live right down the street from NCS!!!!!

gmw · Post by **gmw** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:19 pm

Speaking of the new Hori Special Edition/Addition Real Arcade Pro sticks, I'm completely head over heels for the black/red Sanwa one - anyone know if there are any import sites offering pre-orders of these sticks yet? I imagine it's going to cost a fortune to get one after shipping....

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:43 pm

Yeah, I feel the same way about the Seimitsu stick. But I'm guessing it could cost as much as $160 after shipping... ouch.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:51 pm

TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:
UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:
mannerbot wrote:Did you get yours from an import shop, UFO? I've shopped around and I don't see a better option than Play-Asia, really. Right now I'm hoping to score a modded Hori RAP from a guy at Shoryuken.com, but he put it up for sale over a month ago so I'm guessing I'll be out of luck there.
I got mine from NCSX, which had a higher item price but much much cheaper delivery, 8 dollars compared with Play-Asia's whopping 50. Good luck with that modded RAP.

DUDE! You probably live right down the street from NCS!!!!!

They don't have a physical store AFAIK, so what does it matter. Where are they located? It's cheaper breaking in and taking the stuff I want.

*They have a 718 area code, so I suppose they are in Brooklyn. However, I think I read Queens (not quite so close) in the package when it came.

visuatrox · Post by **visuatrox** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:21 pm

I'm looking foward to the new special Hori Real Arcade Pro's.. wonder how much they will cost, and I don't know if I should go with the red or green one

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:33 pm

visuatrox wrote:I'm looking foward to the new special Hori Real Arcade Pro's.. wonder how much they will cost, and I don't know if I should go with the red or green one

The red is made with all Sanwa parts, and the white one is made with all Seimitsu parts. Here's what coN at Shoryuken.com had to say:

"Seimitsu sticks have a slightly longer throw than Sanwas. Plus, the gate system they use is different from Sanwas. Also, with Sanwa stick, when you rotate the stick itself, the acuator hits the switches directly, whereas the Seimitsu stick when rotated pushes the metal bars to activate the microswitches like a Happ Super or Korean Stick. Overall, both are very good sticks."

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:41 am

UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:Good luck with that modded RAP.

I wound up missing it by one day. I feel empty.

http://myspace.csumb.edu/project/tcolo/ ... roller.jpg

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:44 am

mannerbot--

I have the first Hori Fighting Stick which uses the same controls as the second. It's a decent stick for this price range, though not as tight feeling as other Hori sticks like VF4 Evo, Soul Calibur II, or Tekken 4. Still, it's the easiest stick I've encountered for modding with Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y or FLASH1 optical stick (buttons are fairly easy as well; no cutting needed).

About the Hori Real Arcade Pro: the idea of modding it would be more for personal preference, like changing to Seimitsu LS-32 stick and Sanwa OBSF-30RG buttons (the x5 switch durability type). As opposed to modding the other console sticks out there which will actually give a significant increase in quality feeling and performance.

The new edition Hori RAP with Seimitsu LS-32 will be about $100 retail. If NCS brings it in, it should be around $110-120 plus $10 shipping. I think it's the right price particularly when you can't build or mod your own.

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:07 am

mannerbot wrote:
visuatrox wrote:I'm looking foward to the new special Hori Real Arcade Pro's.. wonder how much they will cost, and I don't know if I should go with the red or green one
The red is made with all Sanwa parts, and the white one is made with all Seimitsu parts. Here's what coN at Shoryuken.com had to say:

"Seimitsu sticks have a slightly longer throw than Sanwas. Plus, the gate system they use is different from Sanwas. Also, with Sanwa stick, when you rotate the stick itself, the acuator hits the switches directly, whereas the Seimitsu stick when rotated pushes the metal bars to activate the microswitches like a Happ Super or Korean Stick. Overall, both are very good sticks."

Can someone post a few pics of this Sanwa joystick? Its sounds like it will rock with any type action arcade game.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:22 am

Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT

Sanwa JLHS-8Y FLASH1 optical (discontinued over 1 year ago)

http://members.cox.net/oxtsu/sanwa_opt01.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oxtsu/sanwa_opt02.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oxtsu/sanwa_opt03.JPG

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:55 am

Twitch, if you were looking for pictures of the new Hori Special Real Arcade Pros, here they are: http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/control ... index.html

Oxtsu, thanks for the info. I was under the impression that the Fighting Stick II was their second-best stick; I know a site selling the SCII stick for $60 shipped so I'll think about it. Right now I have my heart set on the Hori RAP though. It's supposed to come stateside so I'm kind of hesitant to order one at the moment, but if NCSX does stock the Hori Special RAP's... screw waiting.

gmw · Post by **gmw** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:01 am

The Hori website does say that the new RAP Special Addition / Edition are limited to being sold on horistore.com - I wonder if Play-Asia and NCS will be able to stock many of these.

piyo · Post by **piyo** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:32 pm

On the temp forum I posted some stuff about that new Real Arcade Pro Hori stick as well, and some arcade experts answered my questions. I'm going to preorder the white+blue one, in other words, the Seimitsu one. Sweet colors...

http://shmups.com/forum/messages/2/268.html?1106434521

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piyo

gmw · Post by **gmw** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:16 pm

I emailed NCS last night to ask whether they were going to stock these or not, and got an email back this morning saying that they're definitely stocking the new Special Addition / Edition - preorders open in a couple of days.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:19 pm

The Pro Sticks from Mas Systems are excellent sticks, in my opinion.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:29 pm

gmw wrote:I emailed NCS last night to ask whether they were going to stock these or not, and got an email back this morning saying that they're definitely stocking the new Special Addition / Edition - preorders open in a couple of days.

Yesz!!

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:45 pm

Well, well, well. Look what Hori's bringing stateside.

http://www.vgonetwork.com/media/data//t ... 5stick.jpg

Preorder Tekken 5 and you get an artbook along with this special edition HRAP, all for $100. I'll probably wind up selling Tekken 5, but this is some crazy deal.

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:20 pm

That sounds pretty good, mannerbot. It's a pity it has tekken artwork all over it though. I dispise Tekken.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:45 pm

mannerbot wrote:
gmw wrote:I emailed NCS last night to ask whether they were going to stock these or not, and got an email back this morning saying that they're definitely stocking the new Special Addition / Edition - preorders open in a couple of days.
Yesz!!

Darn, maybe I'll get a new RAP for posterity and sell Tekken to reduce the price of the package. 60-70 sounds like a really reasonable price. Man, why did I get impatient and import one

. Still, great joystick, everyone should get one.

Edit: anyone know when I can start preordering and where?