Rapidefire smells the fire

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erzane
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Rapidefire smells the fire

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Hi guys
I've changed the connections of my rapidfire but it doesn't work anymore and smells like smt is burning (the smell comes from the rapidefire pcb).

Before, I had an NH 4P-SHF-AA female going to a male 4pin onboard, and all worked fine:
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Now, this. An extension, because I wanted the pcb more far (more close to me, inside the panel):
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I don't know what's happening. Perhaps the wire I used for this extension is too thin?
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Re: Rapidefire smells the fire

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Can you see any discoloration anywhere on the components/board? If there is a short circuit or incorrect wiring, damage is often visible as discoloration as that smell is probably a component being fried. My guess would be that when you changed the wirings, it was wired incorrectly and that's caused damage to the autofire PCB (possibly permanent damage). It is unlikely to be an issue with wiring size because of the relatively low voltage/current involved going to the controls, unless perhaps you're using unusually small wires compared to the original wires (if the new wires are only half as thick that's a possible concern).

Doublecheck the wiring is correct - if not, you will need to correct it and see if the autofire PCB is still functioning.

Even if you think the wiring is correct, I'd suggest you try to rewire it the way it was before to see if that fixes the issue. That will determine if it was a wiring problem after all or component issue with something like the the connectors. If the PCB does not function after wiring it the way it was before, the PCB may now be damaged.

It's also possible it was wired correctly but a component happens to have failed on the PCB, but this is a highly unlikely coincidence.

Do you have a schematic for the autofire PCB? For reference, if your autofire is in fact damaged, it shouldn't be too hard to build a basic one:

http://ikotsu.blogspot.ca/2010/03/passi ... rcuit.html
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erzane
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Re: Rapidefire smells the fire

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About discoloration anywhere on the components/board:
Fortunatley, I can't see any.

About incorrectly wired pins:
Yes, in fact, when I changed the wirings, one of the receptacle wasen't connected well inside the plug to one of the pin. But even after correcting it, the autofire was still not functioning. Perhaps the mistake cames from the uncorrect connection as you say.

I rewired it the way it was before to see if that fixes the issue but no way. Now, when I connect any of the two rapid pcb, no screen, and I heard a blowing sound.
Edit: after checking it better, I reflected ans notified that perhaps the range of each four wires wasen't respected and it was the case. I putted the two blacj (certianly the mass) into the wrong place, and black & red wires weren't in the correct place to. Fortunately I took thoses pics I posted above and they helped me. Now all is working great. So, finaly my issue seems to comes from the range of the wires, because on the pcb, the 4pin (on board) wasen't connected to the correct wire from the jamma. That's why I should take care about this to when I change connection from ''wire to board'' to the ''wire to wire'' plug.

Btw, I don't have any schematic for the autofire PCB but I have every parts to rebuild it.
I would like to rebuild the one for mushi. Do you know where I can find the schema for it?

About the shema you sent me:
I see this Ikotsu rapid is ''passive''. Do you think I could modifiy mine (which actualy seems to be ''active'' because from the Jamma adaptor and taking 5v/12v) to passive? Do you think I really need 5v/12v for my actual rapid fire, or could I insert the four wires which comes from the jamma adaptor to the main jamma connector of the cab permanently?
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