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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing Guide
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:28 pm 


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Okay, that's fair advice - although I assume anyone who's serious enough to go for a WR won't see it as wasted time. It just depends on what you want to do in life, as well as what you perceive as attainable.

Agreed. To be honest I wrote this because I think some wannabe superplayers might get their hopes up about reaching the very top, and I want them to be aware of what aiming for the very top really means. Gotta lower your expectations, even if later you might raise them again depending on your progress. Just like when you meet a new girl that you like ;D
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:10 pm 


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Great read, thank you for your insights, Prometheus. Very inspiring, actually.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:15 pm 


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Amazing work! :D
Will read it in full later!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:55 am 


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I'm actually applying this right now to Ketsui. I'm practicing right now in MAME using save states as you said, following MrMonkeyMan's play through (still confused on how he gets 20M in the first stage...). Going from DoDonPachi to this is insane. Wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:26 am 


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Thanks Prometheus!

Browsed through really quickly and I can't wait to finish it up tomorrow.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing Guide
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:28 am 


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Great work. I cant say that there was much in it that I wasn't aware of, but most guides for anything I've read are like that. It's nice to read it coming from an expert and it helps to emphasize things I wouldn't normally think much of.
And imo you should keep the 'asshole' bit, I like the tone you keep with the casual cursing. It makes it read for like a casual friendly guide, not an instruction manual.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:42 pm 


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Good stuff Prome. Can't think of anything I'd want to add.
We'll see if people take some of this advice on.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing Guide
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:04 pm 


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Been starting to read it. Great guide so far, thanks a lot Prometheus!
I expected a guide for Dodonpachi, but these general tips about playing for score are much more useful to me.
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A small section on rage quits would be a great addition. It's a bad habit of mine.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:59 am 


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This is awesome, dude. I just read the whole thing.

My favorite:

At some point, you will likely get mad at the game, and trying won't really
be fun at all anymore. If you're going to be one of the best, that's when you must
not stop. Stick to a minimum playing schedule and never stop playing for more
than a few days. Discipline is key.


I laughed out loud reading that. I lived that paragraph when I was going for the 2-ALL in Strikers '99.


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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:47 am 


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Just downloaded it, flipped through it, you really put a lot of effort into this! I love the cartoons inbetween, and judging from the first page I´ve read so far you have a very enjoyable writing style. I was planning to go to bed soon but I´d rather stay up and read this 8)
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:38 pm 


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Thank you very much for all the positive feedback !
I am also using my own techniques to practice DOJ right now ;]

500 downloads already @_@
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:57 am 


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THX Prometheus It was an enjoyable read, Athough I kinda know most of the techniques and facts myself, I dont always follow them and having all the facts there in black and white really brings home just how un focussed my current playstyle is. (IE too many full runs with too much time wasted in stage 1, and the pratice I do is too unfocused and wastefull)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:07 pm 


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first, awesome guide indeed. very good work PROMETHEUS!

your little stories in between really add to the guide, let alone the small guwange part at the beginning practically forced me to pick up guwange again :)

anyway, someone got a version of MAME (preferably shmupmame) with savestates ENABLED? looks like they don't work in most versions, and then only with specific games. i always get the "timing error" when i try to save a state.


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There are two types of shmupmame, one type (the one with the robot samuri start up pic) doesnt have save state support for Cave games. The other type mame.99 does have cave save state support, although its an old shmupmame version (v1.5) and wont work with all PCs and has no support for kesui and the other PGM games.

Luckly Nimitz has just mentioned that theres Shmupmame v3.0 coming soon which will be based on .99 with save state support :)
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Prometheus, you set your high scores playing on a Keyboard????????
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Prometheus, you set your high scores playing on a Keyboard????????

Yup, the keyboard is my weapon of choice man !
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Link is broke.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
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Shmupemall link or download link on shmupemall page ? Both work for me right now.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:53 am 


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Thank you for putting this together. I'll definately give it some thought, and attempt to adapt some of it into my play. I really do have to admit that I do prefer playing full runs, but I am getting better at practicing individual stages. I do really like the overall look and presentation of the current version, it shows that you really do care about the strats and are happy to share them.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:21 pm 



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PROMETHEUS wrote:
Shmupemall link or download link on shmupemall page ? Both work for me right now.

Doesn't work for me either

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While trying to retrieve the URL: http://forum.shmupemall.com/viewtopic.php?

The following error was encountered:

Connection to 213.186.33.19 Failed

The system returned:

(113) No route to host

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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing in Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:45 pm 


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Read this last night. Very informative. I will have to break down and dl MAME eventually, at least to play the games I do own in better practice.

All those screenshots made me want to play DDP
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This is an answer to my prayers. DOJ, here I come. :)
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Playing Shmups Competitively
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:34 am 


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Same here Skykid, just spend over an hour practicing stage 4&5 until I could no miss them (not including hibachi). Only problem is that I think DOJblex gives you low rank in practice mode so I'm worried I'll get used to easy versions of those stages, hmmmm.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Practicing/Performing Guide
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RNGmaster wrote:
A small section on rage quits would be a great addition. It's a bad habit of mine.


"Rage quits" refers to multiplayer games. Else it's called shutting down the game.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Playing Shmups Competitively
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Today the download count has reached 1000 ! Certainly didn't expect it to be read this much when I was writing it. I thought I'd be distributing it to 100 people max.
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 Post subject: Re: ST: Full Extent of the Jam - Playing Shmups Competitively
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:27 am 


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Many of my gamer-friends know me as the "shmup guy", even though I'm not a superplayer or even a so-called "kusoplayer".

Perhaps I'll link this for those who like shmups but are just as terrible (if not worse) as me.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:46 pm 


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This is really great. I especially enjoyed the story at the end. I feel inspired to go back to Mushihimesama Futari Black Label Original now. Time to get practising.


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Thanks! Gonna give this a read in a bit. =)
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Thankyou so much Prometheus! The whole guide and especially the last section are really inspiring :D
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