ebay (and other) auctions with insane prices

[trap15]

Man, I've got no idea about Touhou history at all. I thought they started on Windows. So they were originally 98 games ported to Windows?

The first 5 games are PC-98 games. From 6 onwards they're Windows games.

[TransatlanticFoe]

Woah I decided to look on ebay for the last few retro games I want to buy and... well there's next to bugger all on there and when there is, it's ludicrous chancer BIN prices.

Decided to see what the going rate for a few titles I already had was. Saturn Batsugun tops £100 as does Gekirindan and Kyukyoku Tiger II is not far behind. Sold listings not unsold BINs.

wat

Urgh. I should probably just suck it up, pick up a copy of Bulk Slash while I can and call it quits. Everything else I was after is nuts now!

[CIT]

Yep, this thread has become kinda pointless, cuz now EVERYTHING has an insane price it seems.

[Skykid]

Uh, are those Gekirindan prices on eBay for real? I bought a copy from a forum member about a year and a half ago for £25.

Surely the YHJ prices can't be in line with that, it's not a £200 game.

[Xyga]

vidya gaemz @ Sotheby's ... soon.

(well kidding but that happened in France already, at Millon's)

[MintyTheCat]

I got most of my collection in the late 90s when people were throwing away all the NeoGeos and such as it was 'old, so must be shit' kind of thing.

I have as such not kept an eye on prices but since I moved to Germany 5/6 ago things seem to have gotten more expensive; when did it start to get silly?

That PAL copy of Zero Wing in "top zustand" made my day. You would have to be misinformed to believe any of that:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 4-227-3931

It has been discussed at length on the NeoGeo forum but does anyone think that prices will reach an upper limit, will things stay on a plateau or will all the games reappear when we all die for the kids to pick up?

I honestly wasn't even trying to 'get rich' collection wise, I simply stuck to what I thought was cool and modern stuff never did much for me.

[Strikers1945guy]

Honestly games or pcbs as a whole have to hit a plateu at some point. Who knows how expensive that will be. The shit part is that even rare pcbs exchanged hands on a fairly regular basis, or you could make a "want to buy" thread years ago for almost any ting and find it.

These days the prices of some rare kits scares me. Some I own and are worth lots, but I'm afraid to sell anything for fear I could never find it again down the road, regardless of the price. These prices make people afraid to sell / trade as games that used to be scarce but pop up sometimes are now virtually extinct.

Don't know if console stuff is in the same boat but retro collection, from a cost perspective is.

[system11]

These days the prices of some rare kits scares me. Some I own and are worth lots, but I'm afraid to sell anything for fear I could never find it again down the road, regardless of the price. These prices make people afraid to sell / trade as games that used to be scarce but pop up sometimes are now virtually extinct.

This is exactly where I am. I was recently offered a very good price for one of my games and honestly the money would be really useful right now to fund other recent purchases. Trouble is - I probably won't be able to get it again in future. Saw the SDOJ kit end at 360k+ today...

[MintyTheCat]

360k+ today..

Is that Yen or $US?

I shit myself wrt my PCBs - I dare not really get them out too often and definitely not let them leave the house.

[Strikers1945guy]

360k+ today..

Is that Yen or $US?

I shit myself wrt my PCBs - I dare not really get them out too often and definitely not let them leave the house.

Probably Yen but either way that's crazy. A few years ago the Black label kits were always hard to find but nothing ever went above or really even around the $2000 mark. Black label kits could be had for like $1400.

Everyone always thought that basically any new cave kit you could buy on release for the 228,000 yen or whatever the price was guaranteed to plummet in price over time.

Now all the people who spent $2000 for a Saidaioujou kit are feeling good as they are making some nice change on their investment.

As of today the Canadian dollar is basically worthless so I'm tempted to just sell a few things. As of today $1400 USD would get me basically $2000 canadian dollars. Makes it harder for me to buy stuff these days as everyone seems to sell in USD or Euros.

The odd time I do sell stuff I always say specifically the prices are in USD as that's the base currency used for prices and people see I'm in Canada and then offer the asking price in Canadian dollars... like I'm not going to notice when I lose 35%...

[MintyTheCat]

I always use US$ for most things. I keep my eye on Yen, GBP too. I take very little interest in Euros - it is a fake currency anyway and propped up - the US dollar is closer to reality I would say.

In today's money:

360,000.00 JPY = 2,124.56 GBP = 3,081.47 USD

That is a wedge of cash.

I bet that the german Zollamt would have a party if one of those entered their office - I hate all the import and duty taxes that they make off us.

Is this generally for all Cave type kits? I only own ibara but would never sell it. I bought it from a top chap in the US back in 2010 I think it was. Forget how much I paid but a couple of hundred dollars I think it was.

I kind of work on a scheme: I only buy what I can safely look after and afford so I never need to sell anything, or at least have not needed to sell stuff. I have however found that a lot is cluttering up the place so I have been getting rid of dupes that I have that I have gained over the years mostly in trades and just picked up along the way. I actually forget what I have half the time.

The issue for me is that too much cash involved takes the fun right out of everything for me personally. I liken it to a concert: how much I enjoy the concert has not a lot to do with the price of a ticket.

[TransatlanticFoe]

Uh, are those Gekirindan prices on eBay for real? I bought a copy from a forum member about a year and a half ago for £25.

Surely the YHJ prices can't be in line with that, it's not a £200 game.

There's chance it's all sellers using a fake/friend "non-paying but non-reporting" account to make it look like they sold the item in a bid to sell it next time they list it, but otherwise the sale prices seem genuine.

Also bought it for £25 about 3 years ago which is why I was so surprised!

[GaijinPunch]

Uh, are those Gekirindan prices on eBay for real? I bought a copy from a forum member about a year and a half ago for £25.

Surely the YHJ prices can't be in line with that, it's not a £200 game.

I just looked... I won't link b/c that's useless for historical purposes, but there's a no-spine one for 14,630 and a sealed one for 30,000. There's only one Batsugun up there, and it's 18,000. Ironically there's 4 Radiant Silverguns... the most expensive of which topping out at 15,500. Hyper Duel seems to be the creme of the crazy prices these days, with a no-spine copy going for 33,000.

Anyway, we know this stuff is all cyclical, and the weird thing is Saturn stuff tanked a lot after it peaked a while back. I sold all of those games for quite "normal" prices. I was sure I could get them even cheaper later, but I guess I was wrong. Anyway, let's put a pin in all this and come back in a year and see what's what.

[MintyTheCat]

Uh, are those Gekirindan prices on eBay for real? I bought a copy from a forum member about a year and a half ago for £25.

Surely the YHJ prices can't be in line with that, it's not a £200 game.

I just looked... I won't link b/c that's useless for historical purposes, but there's a no-spine one for 14,630 and a sealed one for 30,000. There's only one Batsugun up there, and it's 18,000. Ironically there's 4 Radiant Silverguns... the most expensive of which topping out at 15,500. Hyper Duel seems to be the creme of the crazy prices these days, with a no-spine copy going for 33,000.

EBay is even worse: Yen 55,492 is a bit on the steep side. Glad I managed to get it years back. Pretty good game too though I have no idea why it goes for a fair amount - was it rare or simply sought after?

[Limbrooke]

Uh, are those Gekirindan prices on eBay for real? I bought a copy from a forum member about a year and a half ago for £25.

Surely the YHJ prices can't be in line with that, it's not a £200 game.

I just looked... I won't link b/c that's useless for historical purposes, but there's a no-spine one for 14,630 and a sealed one for 30,000. There's only one Batsugun up there, and it's 18,000. Ironically there's 4 Radiant Silverguns... the most expensive of which topping out at 15,500. Hyper Duel seems to be the creme of the crazy prices these days, with a no-spine copy going for 33,000.

EBay is even worse: Yen 55,492 is a bit on the steep side. Glad I managed to get it years back. Pretty good game too though I have no idea why it goes for a fair amount - was it rare or simply sought after?

Its just timing, all import Saturn shooters have gone through the roof. Why Gekirindan or the likes of Kyukyoku Tiger 2 Plus go for beyond $100 is simply put unbelievable. I don't have any explanation other than "too much money not enough brains" as to why demand has seen prices across the board increase at such a rate. The prices 10 years ago weren't too bad south of Radiant Silvergun and Taromaru but now, someone wants to pay $500 for Hyper Duel? Yeah, go nuts, buddy.

[GaijinPunch]

EBay is even worse: Yen 55,492 is a bit on the steep side. Glad I managed to get it years back. Pretty good game too though I have no idea why it goes for a fair amount - was it rare or simply sought after?

It always is, but it should be due to the whole region thing. One thing worth noting, is that with the proliferation of proxies, and Akihabara being turned into a tourist trap, there's a good chance a good portion of those games that used to change hands regularly are no longer in the hands of our Japanese friends.

I need the flyer market to crazy.

[R79]

Batsugun looks to be creeping right up now, soon will be straight £200 (peanuts to the big time PCB guys here). A classic game and soundtrack no doubt. Will it ever come down? Not unless it gets a port, like RSG or Zanac Neo...

When did people "throw away all the Neo Geos"? You think people playing with Dinky toys in the 1950s could ever imagine them at Bonhams. Just like Star Wars toys, it's happening.

When I got into this genre, at the start of the century, largely with the 3 main SEGA consoles, the games weren't cheap (Battle Garegga mint was twice the cost of Shenmue at launch for example), but there were still bargains to be had, which can still be done in some cases, with loose carts or no spine auctions instead of BINs etc

A PAL Gunbird 2 has barely changed price since it came out... full speed, full screen 2D classic

[GaijinPunch]

Will it ever come down? Not unless it gets a port, like RSG or Zanac Neo...

Probably. This is a horribly cyclical hobby, and console games aren't really rare in the big picture. Most of them anyway. Ironically RSG has had a stable price for some 15 years.

When I got into this genre, at the start of the century, largely with the 3 main SEGA consoles, the games weren't cheap (Battle Garegga mint was twice the cost of Shenmue at launch for example),

Apples & Oranges. The internet was still young, and people hadn't figured out they could make bank selling games directly from Japan. The import shops still held all the cards. import games in the early 90's were some $80-$90 for standard games.. quite a bit more than domestic at the time. Eventually, expats caught on and utilized Ebay which drove the price down to "normal" levels (even cheap). My take on the difference now is that those games have switched hands so often the people that own them are content to hang on for a while.

Again, who knows... but go read around the FS forum. Things go up, and come right back down all the time.

[Skykid]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ButterFox-Del ... Sw9mFWNAeQ

6 sold? GTFO

[nem]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ButterFox-Del ... Sw9mFWNAeQ

6 sold? GTFO

6 sold for £13.99.

[Skykid]

Yeah I know! That's why he's bumped it up to £103!

[nem]

More likely he's just out of inventory. It's a common tactic to save listing fees.

[Skykid]

More likely he's just out of inventory. It's a common tactic to save listing fees.

Ah... gotcha, makes sense. Easy to end up in this thread with that tactic tho

[Tarma]

Whoa. Since when has Progear been worth $1000 even with paperwork...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Progear-No-Ar ... Sw5dNWqbpO

[R79]

Again, like Batsugun, it's always been a highly respected game by those in the know, and no doubt now in the vintage gaming clips era, a lot more people know, and there's only so many to go round. Crucially, it never even had a console port, AFAIK, and Cave themselves seem to have abandoned it/the series.

Surprised given those factors, it isn't a grand sterling in today's money.

[mvsfan]

ive noticed that if you do a search and select sold listings on ebay, youll see that theres quite a bit of stuff that goes up there for good prices, but its almost always bought up right away.

and the ridiculously priced things remain unsold.

I still see a model 1 Genesis up there for $600.00. Granted, its non-Tmss but still, really? does he actually expect to sell it? doesnt he get tired of listing it? whats the point?

$45 is about the price on the model 1 and only if its non Tmss.

[mnneurope]

wtf?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sol-Divide-Sega ... SwyjBW329j

[Xyga]

^ Probably fake, seller and bidder(s) = accomplices attempting to push that shit's egay price through the roof, then scatter and sell their stock using various accounts/shops/forums, etc.

[dingsbums]

Yeah I saw that Sol Divide auction a few hours ago (was at 850 $ at that time) and thought: Who in hell would pay that ammount for the worst Psikyo Shooter out there ?

[beatsgo]

I just like to inform this thread the official winning bid is $1000

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