decent 4:3 10-12" LCD monitor for MAME cab?

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decent 4:3 10-12" LCD monitor for MAME cab?

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So I'm still working on a mini Donkey Kong bartop arcade cab that is supposed to emulate all the classics up to '84. I've been meaning to use a 16:9 LCD monitor I've had lying around, but I've changed my mind and now I want a decent 10 to 12"-ish 4:3 LCD monitor. Does anyone herehave any recommendations? There's some stuff available, but I have no idea if they're worth anything... I'd prefer an IPS screen of course. CHeers fellas!
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Here's a 19" SuzoHapp arcade LCD monitor that accepts both 15.7kHz & 31kHz sync rates but would be more suited towards an upright or cocktail table styled cabinet setup:

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/monitors/49-2604-30N

I've seen some arcade operators use this type of lcd monitor with the Namco Anniversary compliation jamma pcb (the one that has a bunch of classic Namco arcade game titles to choose from & is coined up with real quarters or tokens).

You'd then would need an external scanline generator (SLG) device to add the required "scanlines" for completeness. Toodles' SLG works just fine with a 640 x 480 resolution setting to enable the scanline filter indeed. They're listed for sale on eBay under "Vga SLG".

You could use a 9" Sony CRT RGB monitor like the Sony CPD-9000 with it's dedicated 15.7kHz sync rate + the obligatory scanlines are included as well. Much better than going with an lcd monitor setup if you want that classic retro crt monitor aesthetic vibe.

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ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:So I'm still working on a mini Donkey Kong bartop arcade cab that is supposed to emulate all the classics up to '84. I've been meaning to use a 16:9 LCD monitor I've had lying around, but I've changed my mind and now I want a decent 10 to 12"-ish 4:3 LCD monitor. Does anyone herehave any recommendations? There's some stuff available, but I have no idea if they're worth anything... I'd prefer an IPS screen of course. CHeers fellas!
The ratio of the resolution width/height should be the same as the ratio of the physical dimensions; I'm not aware of any modern monitors that don't have square pixels.

When I had to answer the same question for myself, I wrote up a quick spreadsheet for the math. It shows your 20" monitor to have a height of 12 inches. For 1920x1200 I get 11.7" height for a 22" monitor, and 12.7" height for a 24" monitor.
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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:Here's a 19" SuzoHapp arcade LCD monitor that accepts both 15.7kHz & 31kHz sync rates but would be more suited towards an upright or cocktail table styled cabinet setup:

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/monitors/49-2604-30N

I've seen some arcade operators use this type of lcd monitor with the Namco Anniversary compliation jamma pcb (the one that has a bunch of classic Namco arcade game titles to choose from & is coined up with real quarters or tokens).

You'd then would need an external scanline generator (SLG) device to add the required "scanlines" for completeness. Toodles' SLG works just fine with a 640 x 480 resolution setting to enable the scanline filter indeed. They're listed for sale on eBay under "Vga SLG".

You could use a 9" Sony CRT RGB monitor like the Sony CPD-9000 with it's dedicated 15.7kHz sync rate + the obligatory scanlines are included as well. Much better than going with an lcd monitor setup if you want that classic retro crt monitor aesthetic vibe.

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First of all, many thanks for the advice - no idea how I could have missed your post!
Well, problem with CRTs is of course their humongous size; I already built the shell, so I can use a flatscreen only. (CRTs and bartops don't mix well, since the CRTs were oriented in a way that the monitor points almost to the top of the cab. No way you can put one in a bartop this way.) I have another scanline generator lying around I can use for this build.
The Suzo Happ screen looks good, but honestly it costs far more than I'm willing to spend. I was hoping I could get a screen for under/ around a hundred bucks tops...
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Lots of examples here.
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Oh don't worry, I'm a decently skilled cab builder and have exquisite taste in cabs. When it's finished, it will roughly look like this:

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Okay, that's definitely forgivable. :D
Just make sure the scanlines are on.
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GaijinPunch wrote:Okay, that's definitely forgivable. :D
Just make sure the scanlines are on.
Pfff, who do you think you're talking to? Implying that I would play without scanlines... hrm... :?
Longterm goal would be to put in a powerful enough PC for HLSL. Even as the CRT purists that we undoubtedly are, we cannot deny that it makes for a rather authentic experience.
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If you're still looking, there are a number of 4:3 monitors on Amazon from brands like EYOYO, Cocar, and "Thinlerain." China wildin'. They are mostly low-rez VGA panels. Just type in "4:3 LCD" and you're good to go. Most in the sub-$200 range and some are hovering around $!00. Seems the pandemic hasn't helped pricing though.

12" Eyoyo, $109:
https://www.amazon.com/Eyoyo-Monitor-80 ... 01N6B5EA5/

Don't expect miracles, though. Adrian's Digital Basement has a review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CluzXuInAqU
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Thanks, man. Unfortunately it looks like they're TFT, I was looking for an IPS screen due to their much better viewing angle. Still, at that price I'm tempted, it's only a third of what Suzo Happ screen would cost...
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