COVID-19 in your part of the world

SuperPang · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 879 Location: UK

Pfft. Get back to us when you've joined the 50k club.

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

SuperPang wrote:

Pfft. Get back to us when you've joined the 50k club.

50k? Dude... childs play. We finna counter stop this bitch.

BIL · Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 14011 Location: COLONY

Hello again from Tinkletowne! I gotta say, I'm down with wearing a mask, if it'll stop your grandpa from blowing his rusty sheriff's badge apart on the bowl - not like I've got anything better to do! - but you wouldn't believe the number of decrepit old coots that go staggering and shuffling right under my nose outside te Tesco's, ignoring the five feet of clear sidewalk immediately adjacent. IDGAF, just saying, coof's not gonna scratch my magnificent dusky hog, but it might touch their shrivelled WW1 veteran peckers right up!

I try to phase backward through the bricks like muh favourite Marvel movies but it dun work.

Then again, some of these old-timers were at war with Literal Hitler² (that's "Literal Literal Hitler"). I guess they DGAF either, and who can blame them? Me old nan's neighbours got blown to pieces one night, and it made her viciously racist for all her days. 3:< I suppose I kinda hate China now. How do you eat a bat you sick motherless Alibaba fucks.

Just kidding, it's not the worst thing I ever heard. Bloke fucked a monkey, apparently.

Well chaps I'm going to pop off before Cyber Plod shows up to give me a right good talking to. Stay safe!

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

The US had 193,000 new cases in one day? That's a serious chain we got going.

I actually flew into the eye of the storm to spend Thanksgiving, the shittiest holiday ever, w/ my GF. Not going to even dream of seeing my mother. I have learned through a sobering facebook reply (not post) that a friend from my Tokyo days lost a parent to Covid. Shitty.

The attitude towards masks, shut downs, and all that shit largely depends on the area, although even parts of California are throwing caution to the wind and telling Newsome to fuck the fuck off. Apparently Santa Clara, which was killing it and got down to the orange tier, is on track to run out of ICU beds in less than 2 weeks. Meanwhile I have "friends" (ex-colleagues that wear MAGA hats and are all of about 26 years old) that state openly we have crippled the economy to give only a couple of years of enjoyment to the elderly or "people who have made bad life decisions". This guy lives in Utah, so yeah, not exactly reality. :-/

Meanwhile, the leader of the free world is conducting a fucking circus, bolstering the cult of personality he's already made.

Udderdude · Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 5661 Location: Canada

If you're still interested in the excess mortality figures, there's a good link here : https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

Udderdude wrote:

If you're still interested in the excess mortality figures, there's a good link here : https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

This is the scary shit. CDC said US was at 300k excess mortality when the official count was 230k.

vol.2 · Joined: 31 Oct 2016 Posts: 1188 Location: bmore

There was a post on the dataisbeautiful subreddit a couple weeks ago that was comparing Covid deaths to war deaths. I'm sure it's not the first/last.

While I in no way believe that a disease is the same thing as war, I was unsurprised to see that many people took issue not with the whole concept, but with the fact that Covid deaths are just old people or weak people and those deaths (and lives) were not meaningful, especially compared to young men in there 20's who can do battle.

Kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

vol.2 wrote:

There was a post on the dataisbeautiful subreddit a couple weeks ago that was comparing Covid deaths to war deaths. I'm sure it's not the first/last.

While I in no way believe that a disease is the same thing as war, I was unsurprised to see that many people took issue not with the whole concept, but with the fact that Covid deaths are just old people or weak people and those deaths (and lives) were not meaningful, especially compared to young men in there 20's who can do battle.

Kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.

As Covid ravages the 70+ demographic, I imagine a fair amount of those that died from it DID do battle... so we could argue about fucking video games on the internet.

jonny5 · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 5080 Location: toronto

First day of another 28 day lockdown here.

le sigh

orange808 · Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 2061

As usual, our policy for "saving everyone" falls almost completely on the backs of the poor. Can't wait to see what Biden and Kerry cook up for climate change.

Of course, mentioning these realities is strictly verboten.

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2568 Location: Eating the Rich

Well, if we got anything out of COVID, at least this is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1 ... 1121630210

scrilla4rella · Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 843 Location: Berkeley, CA

vol.2 wrote:

There was a post on the dataisbeautiful subreddit a couple weeks ago that was comparing Covid deaths to war deaths. I'm sure it's not the first/last.

While I in no way believe that a disease is the same thing as war, I was unsurprised to see that many people took issue not with the whole concept, but with the fact that Covid deaths are just old people or weak people and those deaths (and lives) were not meaningful, especially compared to young men in there 20's who can do battle.

Kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.

Also makes me angry thinking about how many could have been saved with a decent policy response and general good governance. Obviously the US isn't going to be Singapore all of the sudden but it's hard to imagine a worse outcome. we're definitely not in one of the 'good endings'.

orange808 · Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 2061

While you're counting bodies, healthy people in the US are suffering. The bipartisan plan (GOP-lite fuckfaces and GOP) has shelved all the realistic aid proposals. The new plan: one month of possible unemployment for a limited group that qualifies (but only for people that are already in the program). That's it.

The biggest spending will be PPP (aka free money for rich people/it's only a scam if a small time grifter gets money). It's corporate welfare. Free money for the rich.

That's the plan. The right demands terrible policy and the fake lefties jump on board.

The poors are dying and paying to do it. The only reason wealthy Americans care? The virus doesn't discriminate and you can't buy your way out of it. Either you're strong and healthy enough to win or you're not. I thought you chaps loved meritocracy and natural selection.

In other news, the UK went ahead and approved the inevitable. We all know that jab will be approved and used. It's going to happen, so why bother pretending otherwise? Once they dose the rest homes, the body count will diminish quickly, but not abroad (where they are waiting around to announce a pre-decided outcome, because waiting sounds good).

P_HAT · Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 1948 Location: Ukraine; Yalta

Russia keep leaking medical data, for covid patients. New leak is hefty 300k.

Also my city's hospital is 120% full kek

Tbh, i'm ready to become a tester of Russican vaccine, if i get a chance.

jonny5 · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 5080 Location: toronto

Canada is getting vaccine very soon, but I would be near the bottom of priority for it due to limited supply. Also not in too much of a rush to take this until we see broader results to be honest.

Its a tricky proposition for me. While I obviously distrust government, these vaccines have also been brought about incredibly quickly and I worry they may have long term issues not yet apparent. But virus make dead, this is verified. Whether I am safe with minimal risk of complications/death if infected, the risk to those around me is unacceptable.

Decisions...

With my current isolation working remotely and minimal contact in general, taking a vaccine right now only seems to increase my personal risk with unknowns. They are already talking about possible eventual restrictions on people here who aren't vaccinated which is alarm bells to me, but kind of makes sense.

At this point I am going to sit back and see how it plays out, not much else I can do under the circumstances.

Strange days, but I have to keep reminding myself that I am very fortunate in my situation and to be thankful for where I am at.

Keep your heads up

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

Desperate times, desperate measures. I'd like to think I'm the last on that list for a vaccine, then I calculate my age and realize I'm somewhere in the middle, once essential workers are sorted.

I think by the time it gets to me I'll be pretty confident. Of course there can be long term implications, but it seems there are also potential long term implications of the virus. Take your pick. I know some people that are happy to wait a year, and will socially distance until then. I'm sure a shitload of naysayers are just hoping everyone else gets it and transmission is mitigated to a point we can go back to some resemblance of normal. I think people are going to continue to get pretty ill and perhaps die for a while but it will, to an extent, be by choice.

orange808 · Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 2061

The teams that made these vaccines have made vaccines before. It's not really exotic. It's not a drug, it's a vaccine. If they offer the jab, accept it.

jonny5 · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 5080 Location: toronto

Couldn't get it yet even if I wanted to, watching on the sidelines for now. By the time it's opened up to the general population, I will probably be fine with it. My employer will likely require us to anyways

But then again I don't get the flu shot because its not vegan :lol:

Don't get the flu either though.

To be clear, I am not an anti-vaxxer or questioner of reality. But at the same time I prefer to play it safe when given the opportunity(and not harm da aminals)

Ddshot · Joined: 14 Jun 2019 Posts: 75

Steamflogger Boss wrote:

Well, if we got anything out of COVID, at least this is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1 ... 1121630210

Awsome!

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BulletMagnet · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 12769 Location: Wherever.

GaijinPunch wrote:

I know some people that are happy to wait a year, and will socially distance until then.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I recall hearing that even those who are vaccinated are encouraged to keep present precautions up for awhile, as it's currently unknown whether or not folks who have received it can still be asymptomatic carriers.

vol.2 · Joined: 31 Oct 2016 Posts: 1188 Location: bmore

BulletMagnet wrote:

GaijinPunch wrote:

I know some people that are happy to wait a year, and will socially distance until then.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I recall hearing that even those who are vaccinated are encouraged to keep present precautions up for awhile, as it's currently unknown whether or not folks who have received it can still be asymptomatic carriers.

That sounds about right. Doubt it will be adhered to much in the US though. If the last year has shown anything, it's how vulnerable the US is to biological wf. People just be like "it's not real, fuck the gov try control me I know better cause my magic know more than medical science."
All it would take is one big SARs attack or something. Pretty scary stuff.

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

BulletMagnet wrote:

GaijinPunch wrote:

I know some people that are happy to wait a year, and will socially distance until then.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I recall hearing that even those who are vaccinated are encouraged to keep present precautions up for awhile, as it's currently unknown whether or not folks who have received it can still be asymptomatic carriers.

I have read that. My guess is that until summer all places of business will enforce social distancing -- unless they're not doing it now b/c they are run by morons.

rapoon · Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 798 Location: Dallas, Texas

Half the employers round here simply don’t give a damn. I walked right the fuck out of my job (OKC based HQ) in august because they demanded ppl show up to the office, while not enforcing masks or social distancing, while employees who tested positive were still coming in.

I started a new gig ~2 weeks ago and thankfully this shop is taking it seriously.

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

rapoon wrote:

Half the employers round here simply don’t give a damn. I walked right the fuck out of my job (OKC based HQ) in august because they demanded ppl show up to the office, while not enforcing masks or social distancing, while employees who tested positive were still coming in.

I started a new gig ~2 weeks ago and thankfully this shop is taking it seriously.

All they care about is freedumb.

Koa Zo · **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:01 am

The Pennsylvania governor tested positive for Covid some days ago, as yet luckily not experiencing any symptoms.
Cases have been spiking after our Thanksgiving holiday where many people disregarded precautions and traveled and congregated. Advanced medical treatment is nearing capacity.
A new partial lockdown went into effect tonight at midnight, hereby banning indoor dining and workout gyms (and some other stuff?).
There is predictable resistance from those who refused to heed precautions and distance thus far, who now use the results of their failure to take precautions as proof that precautions don't work.
Meanwhile we have a secessionist movement brewing and ongoing attempt to overthrow our election.
I just saw this post pop up on facebook. How far will they take it?

Quote:

When law enforcement stands along side you, you have the beginning of revolution.
From the Lancaster County Sheriff's Office :
STATEMENT
Our hearts and prayers are with those who have suffered the loss of someone due to the Covid-19 virus. Likewise, our hearts and prayers go out to those who have suffered financially from the quarantine orders.
When taking a drastic step such as a quarantine, there must be a balance between public safety, as directed by the government, and the rights of the people. An action of the government, such as a quarantine, that takes decision making away from the individual, should be extremely rare and limited.
Our United States Constitution, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, recognize individual freedom and liberties, and weigh heavily in favor of the rights of the individual citizen. In recognition of this, our Office will stand in defense of the individual rights of all citizens. Our Office will not be enforcing any edicts from the Governor’s Office as it relates to the Covid -19 pandemic. We are a government for the people, by the people.
We believe that each person should exercise and bear personal responsibility in the best interests of themselves, their families, friends, and employees, and it is they, not the centralized government, who should make those decisions.
May God Bless the United States of America, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and each one of you.
Sheriff Chris Leppler

orange808 · Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 2061

The first massive wave of vaccines should be rolling out, but the neoliberals decided to drag their feet on the inevitable. I'll say it again; that vaccine was guaranteed to get approved. Waiting didn't make sense.

But, comfortable neoliberals are kicking back in their warm homes on their laptops. They think they are "sacrificing" staring at Zoom or Teams on the couch. Obviously, anyone that doesn't work from a laptop is a piece of shit and they "deserve" to starve, right?? --after they deliver your next meal, of course.

The "freedumbs" people are awful, but the neolibs (sitting about very comfortably) dragging their feet and unnecessarily delaying the vaccine for the sake of politics and optics also have plenty to answer for.

BulletMagnet · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 12769 Location: Wherever.

orange808 wrote:

I'll say it again; that vaccine was guaranteed to get approved. Waiting didn't make sense.

I'm not exactly an expert on the approval process for these things, and off the cuff I'm not even sure which specific delay you're referring to, but considering that one of the most prominent obstacles to proliferation of the vaccine is the widespread impression that it has been, for primarily political reasons, rushed to market without being adequately studied, does at least the possibility exist that those insisting on a thorough approval process are attempting to take politics out of the equation and create a smoother path forward for the vaccine, as opposed to twirling their elitist latte-stained mustaches?

GaijinPunch · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 14892 Location: Chicago

Regardless of how strictly ceremonious the approval was it was 100% required. Even as such, there will be tons of people that say it's a rush job that will give you a second dick. With the approval, hopefully a few less. The fact that they approved it so quickly is pretty amazing.

vol.2 · Joined: 31 Oct 2016 Posts: 1188 Location: bmore

GaijinPunch wrote:

The fact that they approved it so quickly is pretty amazing.

Well, the "white house" did threaten to fired the head of the FDA if it wasn't approved. I don't know if I would call that amazing exactly. I supposed there's definitely something amazing about it.

orange808 · Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 2061

BulletMagnet wrote:

orange808 wrote:

I'll say it again; that vaccine was guaranteed to get approved. Waiting didn't make sense.

I'm not exactly an expert on the approval process for these things, and off the cuff I'm not even sure which specific delay you're referring to, but considering that one of the most prominent obstacles to proliferation of the vaccine is the widespread impression that it has been, for primarily political reasons, rushed to market without being adequately studied, does at least the possibility exist that those insisting on a thorough approval process are attempting to take politics out of the equation and create a smoother path forward for the vaccine, as opposed to twirling their elitist latte-stained mustaches?

There wasn't going to be enough to start vaccinating the general population, anyhow. Essentially, all America did was wait to start treating high risk people. Even Boris figured this one out.

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