BulletMagnet wrote:
The thing is, as has been said numerous times before, your rights end where someone else's begin, and vice-versa; you might not have an issue with getting vaccinated for smallpox, but others do, and in refusing to do so put not only themselves but those around them at risk. This goes double for Covid-19; as you say, the mortality rate isn't what makes it a threat, it's the fact that it can proliferate so easily and frequently do so without symptoms, thus making it far more likely to eventually find the victims that it can kill if enough isn't done to slow or stop its spread.
I understand this. There’s no easy answer, as far as I’m concerned. My position is based on my principles and reason.
It makes no sense to me to sacrifice the rights of citizens, up-end economies, re-make the norms and standards of society, for the sake of a mild virus that threatens our elderly. It’s unreasonable.
Forced vaccinations are just one of many lines they’re attempting to cross in an effort to transition to a much more dystopic world they’re designing.
Read Klaus Schwab’s book, “The Great Reset”
Actually read it.
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The underlying question, which of course goes beyond just our response to disease, is at what point the actions of an individual or group go beyond simply exercising their rights and cross over into reckless disregard for the well-being of others, to the point that the authorities would be justified in getting involved. It's not a question there's a single hard-and-fast answer to, but I find that a lot of "I know better than those eggheads" arguments have put little or no effort into taking their effect on other people with the same rights as them into consideration.
In the case of COVID-19, I’ve considered what it would be like if I were elderly and infirmed and I can honestly it wouldn’t change my opinion about any of this. That’s why they’re principles.
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I could go into a diatribe here about how governments are simply tools whose actions and their effects reflect the aims and values of those operating them, but that would frankly go beyond the scope of this topic; what I'll note instead is that when you talk about institutions being "compromised", in the case of the pandemic you're not only talking about a single government, or even all the governments, but pretty much the entire global scientific community as well, which has been informing the actions said governments have been taking.
In doing so you wander into, among other things, an even farther-reaching variation of the "moon landing was faked" (or, more recently, "the election was stolen") quandary, namely the notion that a hoax was successfully pulled off which would require literally millions of people, in every country, including nearly every credentialed expert on the subject, to be "in on the con" to take away our rights and unwilling to spill the beans. And if that's possible, you can propose nearly any scenario you can dream up and the "rot" can go as deep as you like, since the lack of hard evidence now becomes "proof" of your proposed scenario.
Not really.
It’s naive to suggest such coordination would be impossible to achieve, and hand-waving to compare it to something like “the faked moon landing”.
The best parallel I can offer as an example is the lipid hypothesis.
If you’re not familiar, the lipid hypothesis is the theory that postulates a link between cholesterol levels and cardiovascular disease.
Popularized by Ancel Keys in the 40’s, it became the de-facto explanation for the increasing rates of heart disease in the US and remains so today.
This is all despite the fact it’s bullshit.
So... how does the a theory that’s complete bullshit become and remain the standardized medical TRUTH of multiple generations?
The industrial food industry benefitted tremendously from the Lipid Hypothesis... did they have a hand in it?
The sugar industry also benefitted tremendously from the lipid hypothesis... were they part of the “conspiracy”?
What about all the doctors who prescribed poor quality, low-fat diets and statin drugs to their patients for decades? Are they involved in the conspiracy?
The simple reality is that sometimes lies are beneficial to those in power, and the people beneath them maintain those lies out of a combination of ignorance and laziness, or simply because so many human beings are spineless and prefer to appeal to authority, despite it’s long track record of being wrong.