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[BrianC]

Are all of the flaws of the NES MG also in the JP FC version? Also, while the manual translation isn't reflected in the game itself, I was under the impression that some clues in the game were mistranslated?

[Jonny2x4]

Are all of the flaws of the NES MG also in the JP FC version?

They're practically the same unfortunately. The NES version has some extra graphic details (the codec screen has a more complex look and some of the parked vehicles were replaced by civilian models), but that's really it. Jun Furano said in an interview published by HG101 said that they were forced to develop the game on an UNROM instead of one of their VRC mappers, which is why they had cut out the Metal Gear boss at the end. I'm guessing they made the Famicom version with the NES localization already in mind (which makes sense given the popularity of military-themed action games at the time).

Also, while the manual translation isn't reflected in the game itself, I was under the impression that some clues in the game were mistranslated?

The funny thing is that the NES version is pretty much an accurate translation of the Famicom version, right down to not even bothering correcting its mistakes. When you call Schneider on the roof of Building No. 1, he gives you the wrong location for the Bomb Blast Suit. It's really in Building No. 4 in both versions and not on the second floor as he says. You would think they would've corrected that or even put in a clue on how to get through the jungle maze, but instead they made some trivial graphical improvements.

[BIL]

I like RPG elements when they add to a game's depth rather than detract from it. I know that's only a vanishingly tiny number of actual RPGs, but RPG elements aren't inherently bad!

Oh no, they certainly aren't. Just having fun with the most derangedly, uncharitably scrubby strawman I could conjure.

If it's

ENCOUNTERED AN ASSAILANT

GYNOUG DICKMAN: COVENANT
1: targeted buckshot in ur fuckin face 2: spawn sniper tanks up ur ass 3: Bendy Taito DickLazor

And the solution is "click on X more gophers for DEF boost to tank through his undodgeable shitwalls / buy 99 bombs" etc, the game can eat my fuckin ass. If you're instead encouraged to experiment with your ship attributes and equipment, weigh up macro v micro-dodging, zako suppression vs concentrated boss smashing, maybe pile everything into a Bit for some bizarre high-risk maneuver, that's fine of course. Lots of good STGs and action games (and RPGs!) do that already.

[Stevens]

With all the Metal Gear speak going on in here I thought you guys would appreciate this -

When preparing to leave home to go someplace I don't say pack -

I say Gear Up.



Also I spy a new avatar! New improved dickman, now with extra dick.

[BIL]

One of my favourite print ads from the ol' days.

Along with this buffet of manliness:



And for Contra/Metal Gear crossover:



Commonly encountered in the pages of MAHVEL and Archie. Ah, smell of bubblegum and crummy paperstock.

[FinalBaton]

3 awesome oldschool Konami/Ultra ads right there. Well done privates. You are dismissed ;_;7

[mycophobia]

prolly shouldn't "punch" cartridges into your Nintendo imo.

[Stevens]

The guys in the Jackal ad look way more manly than this shit storm:

SUCCESS -

Spoiler

[mycophobia]

The guys in the Jackal ad look way more manly than this shit storm:

SUCCESS -

Spoiler

GET this shit outta my thread *slaps u*

[Stevens]

prolly shouldn't "punch" cartridges into your Nintendo imo.

If you're manly enough you punch them in AND out.

Also as a kid I can't believe no one figured out Ultra = Konami. In retrospect it was kind of obvious.

[Jonny2x4]

That ad was one of Tom Dubois' earlier works with Konami, who incidentally drew the packaging art for Super C and Snake's Revenge (and pretty much all of the U.S. packaging artwork for Konami games from the late-'80s/early-'90s period). (I still don't know who made the actual packaging art for the original Metal Gear though, but I'm willing to bet it was the same artist who drew Jackal and Dark Adventure).

I'm surprised that they used his work on the Famicom version of Super Contra too. I'm guessing Super C, like Snake's Revenge, was made primarily with the U.S. market in mind (they didn't even bother to use one of their VRC mappers for the FC version like they did with the original FC Contra).

Also as a kid I can't believe no one figured out Ultra = Konami. In retrospect it was kind of obvious.

Can't speak for anyone else, but it was always pretty obvious to me that they were the same company (what with Konami's name popping up in the copyrights text of every Ultra Games release).

[Vanguard]

Oh no, they certainly aren't. Just having fun with the most derangedly, uncharitably scrubby strawman I could conjure.

That was my assumption, but it's honestly very easy these days to reach conclusion that RPG elements are inherently predatory or exist only to enable/supplement/obscure bad game design, because that's true for most of 'em.

[Strider77]

Where can I order my Anita Sarkeesian fuck pillow?

[Stevens]

I am so glad that without Google I have no idea who/what that is.

[mycophobia]

Where can I order my Anita Sarkeesian fuck pillow?

this is a thread about video games, please post your dumb shit elsewhere

[Zen]

Where can I order my Anita Sarkeesian fuck pillow?

Spoiler

It also (appropriately) doubles, as a purse!

[Ed Oscuro]

GOD BLESS THE NES

look, his controller is connected to the PC (probably). He's savestating scums, don't encourage this

Speaking of things, on watching the (so-so) 1989/1988 series of Mission Impossible, I realized that the Konami (or Ultra?) game was a tie-in as well. Nicholas, Max, and even Grant, AKA Barney's Son, don't really look like themselves on the box art (Nicholas looks more like young Harold Raimis or even Sam Raimi than Thaao Penghlis).

[BIL]

I just noticed the Ration is missing from the Metal Gear ad. You gon be hungry motherfucker.

No smokes either. Going into battle hungry and nicotine-deprived is a sure-fire recipe for tragedy.

[Jonny2x4]

The enemy uniform, the keycards and the iconic cardboard box are all missing as well, and probably a few more items I don't remember offhand. The suppressor is also missing, but that's practically useless in the NES version.

[BIL]

...suddenly I wonder if anyone's done a spoof of that ad featuring items like the near-iconic porno mag.