Brexit: Leave wins!

[Blinge]

You are just another arrogant, brainwashed,pc touting authoritarian lunatic cunt, probably fucking german judging by the qualities, what you really need is your fucking head caved in and stomped because violence is the oinly language anti freedom authoritarian cunt filth like you ever understand, i'd punt your fucking head off.

Is this guy another Cee puppet or what.

Time for anti freedom/ authoritarianism to have its moment here and hand out that ban..

[EmperorIng]

Reminds me of kraut going insane in the R-Type Final thread. Except that conversation was fun, at least until the 'go die for Israels' started leaking out. Speaking of which: Still want to see those lucrative Guwange routes though. Where are they?

[Classicgamer]

I'm just glad I don't live in England anymore. It's a sh*t show.

The reality is that 99.9% of people did not understand the implications of their vote, including the politicians. A new vote now that people understand more is not the worst idea.

I am in favor of using the democratic process to make big decisions but the politicians that campaigned for Brexit had a responsibility to do proper research and present accurate info to voters on the implications. They failed.

Instead, they presented overly simple and innacurate data. Like "we spend $x on Europe, if we leave, we can spend it on our healthcare, roads, schools" etc. it sounds good until you look at the consequences. Hard boarders, the currency value plummeting, large employers leaving on mass, shortages of food and medicine, loss of trade, additional taxes, long-term recession, a resumption of violence in Northern Ireland etc etc.

Imagine if NY left the union and overnight you had to go through customs to get to NJ or CT. It would be chaos... they should have negotiated before they announced they were leaving, when they still had some leverage.

[BryanM]

but the politicians that campaigned for Brexit had a responsibility to do proper research and present accurate info to voters on the implications.

lol, like the empty posturing by King Friday ever could have any substance to it.

The tail end of empires always has grotesquely incompetent "leadership". Because there is no punishment for failure, it can be no other way.

Can you guys still believe that Prescott Bush wasn't shot for treason, but instead his house was allowed to acquire power for decades? And that Labour allowed membership to vote on leadership with the deluded notion that they'd pick another copy of Tony Blair?

One wacky show. I would be absolutely shocked if a Brexit actually happened though. That would be quite the twist.

[Xyga]

Lol it's not a matter of politics, economy, regulations etc, people who voted leave don't give a shit about all that.

[Marc]

beta male

Doesn't matter what the rest of your post said, I switched off when you used that as a term of 'insult'
Do you have a 'cuck' anywhere while you're at it?

[Rob]

Lol it's not a matter of politics, economy, regulations etc, people who voted leave don't give a shit about all that.

What do they "give a shit about"?

[GaijinPunch]

Lol it's not a matter of politics, economy, regulations etc, people who voted leave don't give a shit about all that.

What do they "give a shit about"?

Getting rid of foreigners.

[Ajora]

Gee, it's almost like this idea was unfathomably stupid to begin with. You'd think that with the GDP stagnating, businesses plummeting, and the value of the Pound decreasing since the 2016 referendum, that would have been enough to quell the rhetoric coming from UK Independence Party constituents who attempted to rationalize Brexit from a more pragmatic viewpoint (Sargon of Akkad being one example). Instead, Brexit supporters have only doubled down on their insistence that leaving the EU was a good idea and are pushing with increasing tenacity for a Hard Brexit.

So many people care more about keeping immigrants out of the UK than they do about the catastrophic consequences of a Hard Brexit. Demagoguery ultimately works.

edit: I'd like to point out that when I said Hard Brexit, I meant to say No-Deal Brexit, and had gotten the two conflated.

[Rob]

So many people care more about keeping immigrants out of the UK than they do about the catastrophic consequences of a Hard Brexit.

How backwards of these nativist bumpkins to want to maintain their small territory for themselves. Though I think I'd be more concerned about having a place for my descendants to comfortably live and prosper in than the sting of smug condemnations or what you believe are "catastrophic consequences". What might the graphic below look like in another 50 years, or does it (the fate of a people in their own land) just not matter compared to eternal crises like stagnating GDP?

[Ed Oscuro]

Still fighting the good fight for being scared of your own shadow, eh, Rob?

[Mischief Maker]

Camp of the Saints would have been a much shorter book if during the opening discussion between the hippy and the author-insertion character, the hippy made the argument that Europeans can't make shmups worth shit.

Then the author-insertion character would try shooting the hippy, but his crappy euroshmup peashooter would take forever just to kill a single bulletsponge hippy.

And then the hippy, open to learning from other cultures, would activate his gigawing shield and remain a good pacifist while the author insertion character's own bullets bounce back at him, causing him to explode into a pile of gold whose ridiculous multiplier value pays for all the socialism you could ever want!

[Blinge]

I mean, those ethnicities are from outside europe anyway?
Most of whom were brought in in during post WW2 reconstruction to fill a labour shortage.
What would you do, rob?

[Weak Boson]

Rob is more right than most people know. According to a leaked memo the grand marshal of the European consular board is planning to scuttle the UK by sending in a wave of postmodern neo cultural marxist antifa trans bimbos into the country via Turkey just before article 50 is triggered on the 12th of April. If this incursion is successful then (with an expected mixed-race bimboification rate of 0.34) whites will be a minority by 2025 and England will be a full fledged Islamic caliphate by 2040. The last remaining whites will be huddled together on the Faroe islands, so now is probably a good time to look for a house there if you want one with a nice garden.

[Xyga]

So many people care more about keeping immigrants out of the UK than they do about the catastrophic consequences of a Hard Brexit. Demagoguery ultimately works.

Voters were only a prerequisite to trigger the plan, they've used panicked and angry xenophobe idiots and it worked. The plan is a bluff, UK's elites idea is that the EU will sooner or later implode (very likely, at best it'll split and shrink to maybe a third of its current size), and even if brexit, more or less hard, will cost and hurt the cuntry for a number of years, if they manage to turn the economy into a simili-tax-heaven system, then the capital fleeing the continent will come back to them to take refuge.
Probably the advantage of a hard brexit in their minds is that it will hurt Europe too, and therefore increase the UK's chances at becoming that refuge for fat capital in the future.

That the masses of bongs - assuming the plan works - don't realize it'll be a system more than ever tailored for the rich allowing poverty to explode, doesn't matter at all because those who candidly supported the plan will remain happy anyway even if they suffer, as long as they can kick non-whites out, beat gays and jews to a pulp and get away with it, have their women shut up and back to the kitchen, cleanse and silence society of everything that in their minds is even slightly liberal/leftist.
It's really that, for them the world can burn as long as they can achieve that ideal.

(you can spread a fat layer of merry england, empire, industrial revolution, and mustaches nostalgia fantasies, topped with a belief they have a natural talent at business and can manage only with that, over that slice of right-wing-gone-crazy-dumb bread, if that's not enough to describe the taste)

Anyway even if it doesn't happen through historical events like brexit, it's practically a global phenomenon we can't escape, all cuntries affected by that pandemic-scale shared psychosis will end up aligning with it in their own flavour.

on the Faroe islands, so now is probably a good time to look for a house there if you want one with a nice garden.

F* never, not even the Orkneys, only moss grows there anyway.

[Ajora]

I'd like to correct myself on something, as I had mistakenly conflated No-Deal Brexit with Hard Brexit. It was unlikely for Parliament to ever secure this Brexit variety in the first place, so my point remains that this was all a terrible idea to begin with.

[Xyga]

You're right to make that precision. The impression we get from here is that parliament's split between the two.

[Zen]

Getting rid of foreigners.

That's a hard saying, GP, a very hard saying.
In isolation, it would seem extremist.
In it's correct context, of sane, ethical and righteous preservation of a people, on it's own sovereign land, well . . . . let me be brief; in answer to your statement - YES.

Gee, it's almost like this idea was unfathomably stupid to begin with. You'd think that with the GDP stagnating, businesses plummeting, and the value of the Pound decreasing since the 2016 referendum, that would have been enough to quell the rhetoric coming from UK Independence Party constituents who attempted to rationalize Brexit from a more pragmatic viewpoint (Sargon of Akkad being one example). Instead, Brexit supporters have only doubled down on their insistence that leaving the EU was a good idea and are pushing with increasing tenacity for a Hard Brexit.

So many people care more about keeping immigrants out of the UK than they do about the catastrophic consequences of a Hard Brexit. Demagoguery ultimately works.

Economics over Ethnicity? Degenerate.

I mean, those ethnicities are from outside europe anyway?
Most of whom were brought in in during post WW2 reconstruction to fill a labour shortage.

"Labour shortage". Now where have I seen that play before?
Ah, yes!; "Europe cannot survive without Africa"!

This was never either the will nor policy, of the indigenous, Ethnic people. In the case of England, it was the policy of "Britain". There is a fundamental difference.
One of which, would be, fatal Civic Nationalism; as per another creation in the "British" mould; "The United States of America", (as opposed to; America)

All Western Governments have become "Socialist".
(Whoops! Somebody get some emergency medical attention for BryanM, Mischief Maker and BulletMagnet, STAT!)


They do not represent the ethnic peoples they pretend to. The covert interment of hard fought for Republics, by Red "Democracy", should be obvious to ascertain with just a little effort, no?
Case in point; That New Britain/United State of America - "The E.U"


As for the rest; there are some here, that I have previously given my word not to talk to, such was the sensitivity of their ass-cancer, after the spankings that I had to administer.
So, I will just leave this out there;

The most precious possession you have in the World, is your own people.
And for this people and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight.
And never slacken.
Never tire.
Never lose courage.
And never lose faith.

"SHOCKING!", I know, but there it is.

Oh; and have a nice day!

[Blinge]

This was never either the will nor policy, of the indigenous, Ethnic people. In the case of England, it was the policy of "Britain". There is a fundamental difference.

Soo as much as it pains me to read your glib posts of smugness, I'll try. Not for the sake of arguing, but because I see problems.

Somehow I don't think you've asked the 'indigenous' people or can speak for them. It's an unfounded opinion at best.
Unless you've been talking to the ancient Britons, that is.

Whatever the reasons for it, it's already happened.
It all amounts to crying over spilt milk, really.

As for the rest; there are some here, that I have previously given my word not to talk to, such was the sensitivity of their ass-cancer, after the spankings that I had to administer.

Can you give your word not to talk to the entire forum?
It's the least you can do after such cold hearted murder of proper English grammar.

[Xyga]

As for the rest; there are some here, that I have previously given my word not to talk to, such was the sensitivity of their ass-cancer, after the spankings that I had to administer.

Can you give your word not to talk to the entire forum?

Because you think they'll have the decency of cutting their internet lines after leaving? nah, we'll have to endure their mental vomit forever.

PS: forum's hosted in the UK isn't it? welp, wouldn't be a great loss anyway.

[Weak Boson]

You're right to make that precision. The impression we get from here is that parliament's split between the two.

It's probably fairer to say that Parliament is torn between more than two options. Only a small number of MPs actually want no deal, but it hangs over the place as the default option if nothing else is agreed. There is a majority for a "have your cake and eat it Brexit", but that doesn't exist (just as the saying goes). May's deal delivers a "hard Brexit" in principle (which is unacceptable to opposition parties) but unanswered questions over the Irish border mean it would be quite likely that the "backstop" measures to prevent a hard border would kick in (which is unacceptable to the extreme leavers) - hence the historic defeats.

But there aren't enough MPs left over to form a majority for any other options - indicative votes last week failed to produce a majority for any option, including a 2nd referendum or soft Brexit. In theory moderate tories could get behind something like Labour's "soft Brexit" proposal, but that would have required the government to play to the centre rather than the right. Likewise, May could have bought opposition votes with a 2nd referendum. But since none of that happened, Parliament is left flapping around searching for a consensus that may never materialize.

May has said she will call a general election if her vote does not pass (on the fourth attempt) so that may be the most likely outcome at this point, though I'm not sure I have confidence in her even to deliver on her threats.

[Zen]

Somehow I don't think you've asked the 'indigenous' people or can speak for them. It's an unfounded opinion at best.

17 Million, 410 Thousand, 742 Hundred.

On the other hand; of the minority that did not vote to leave, what number of those were even English?
Either way, I don't see the problem. They are free to head on over to Paris or Frankfurt and enjoy their coveted "diversity."

Whatever the reasons for it, it's already happened.
It all amounts to crying over spilt milk, really.

A mere hiccup. Correction is imminent.

Can you give your word not to talk to the entire forum?

I thought "diversity is our strength"?

[Blinge]

Don't you usually say that misrepresenting points is my schtick?
You haven't answered or understood mine, it seems.

Indigenous peoples of the British isles do not control Britain and have not since the Roman invasion. I doubt you speak for them.

Your evidence is the leave EU referendum. That was a referendum about leaving the European Union, it does not pertain to opinions of why immigration from countries outside of Europe happened in the post war era.. and whether or not that was 'the will of the people.' This is what we were talking about.

Correction is imminent? k.
So the graph Rob posted about London will be reversed, will it?

[Ed Oscuro]

Rob is more right than most people know. According to a leaked memo [...]

This is all quite funny, but last time I spoke with Rob I'd not heard the phrase "replacement conspiracy theory," hadn't seen members of US police flashing the OK white gang symbol while in uniform, and I think it was two "mass murderer thanks Donald Trump for his support of white rights" ago. But even back then those things had all happened already.

Turns out there are consequences to "I'm just sayin', people who spout conspiracy theories that lead to mass murders should have a net space too." Who could have guessed?

[Zen]

Don't you usually say that misrepresenting points is my schtick?
You haven't answered or understood mine, it seems.

Indigenous peoples of the British isles do not control Britain and have not since the Roman invasion. I doubt you speak for them.

Your evidence is the leave EU referendum. That was a referendum about leaving the European Union, it does not pertain to opinions of why immigration from countries outside of Europe happened in the post war era.. and whether or not that was 'the will of the people.' This is what we were talking about.

What we were talking about was Brexit.

Your obfuscation about indigenous English being "ancient Britons", is akin to the old chestnut that indigenous Americans are Indians!
If you insist on pressing your point of the post war era, we are firmly back in the conceit of "British Nationality law".

This is the legal fiction of civic nationalism, as opposed to an objective reality.
Simply put;



That's civic nationalism for you. An obscene fiction and an insult to both the indigenous people and immigrant alike.

Are you actually saying, that post war British Nationality law, was not opposed by the indigenous people of England?!

Correction is imminent? k.
So the graph Rob posted about London will be reversed, will it?

Yes.
The will to do so has already begun. Brexit.

[Ed Oscuro]

Something about Indians & fishes, and old dudes who can't fill a bus for a march leading a reverse wave of immigration.

Gripping rebuttal, Zen.

[Zen]

Rob is more right than most people know. According to a leaked memo [...]

This is all quite funny, but last time I spoke with Rob I'd not heard the phrase "replacement conspiracy theory," hadn't seen members of US police flashing the OK white gang symbol while in uniform, and I think it was two "mass murderer thanks Donald Trump for his support of white rights" ago. But even back then those things had all happened already.

Turns out there are consequences to "I'm just sayin', people who spout conspiracy theories that lead to mass murders should have a net space too." Who could have guessed?

And then we have this pair of "debunkers"!
Jesus wept!

Am I reading this correctly?
Has Rob been promoted to full Sith Lord, or what?!



Congratulations, Robert! Magnificent!

[Zen]

Something about Indians & fishes, and old dudes who can't fill a bus for a march leading a reverse wave of immigration.

Gripping rebuttal, Zen.

Jesus Christ!
What is it with you fellows and deleting posts?! Is it a "leftist" thing, or what?

Where is the commitment, the strength, the honour?

For fuck sake, man-up!

EDIT; Ed Oscuro did not delete his post and is Manly as fuck!

[Mischief Maker]

You know, Zen, the stereotype that the left is smug and intellectually superior is not entirely intentional on our parts.

A lot of it comes from when people on the right, claiming to be the genetically superior masters of logic and reason, post a meme like that as some kind of mic drop.

Do I really have to explain the category error of comparing legal status to species?

[Xyga]

What makes you guys think you can reason with racists ? after all these years you should know.