BulletMagnet wrote:BIL wrote:Quite pleased, ngl. A hammer to the skull by proxy is sublime karma for pulling that "spark of divinity" shit re: MS-13.
Have to say, reading this was quite the way to start my Sunday. As someone who's
hardly a fan of Pelosi, I wouldn't have blinked at criticism, as found in the article you linked, of her willful widening of the subject of Trump's statement to make it sound worse, but "pro-MS-13"? You can't honestly believe that's what she actually meant, or that anyone stating otherwise is a conspirator in "obfuscating" the truth.
It's a gruesome sentiment on my part, the ol' hammertime - you'll hear no defense from me there. I have to object on "pro-MS13," though; I neither implied nor believe Pelosi et al are some gang-affiliated fifth column. I don't even care about her warping an out-of-context soundbite into an abjectly cynical brickbat. Shitty, reductive behaviour, but it's what politicians do. Beneath comment, imo.
The problem is that her little stunt is a two-way street, one that knowingly puts animalistic gangsters on par with refugees often fleeing the very same. It goes beyond the merely craven and opportunistic, into the unforgivably callous. Imagine a politician somewhere in the early 1940s condemning the "inhuman" atrocities of Nazi Germany, only for their rival to cock a leg up and smugly parp out "I don't think declaring an entire country inhuman is good."
It's also an open invitation for milquetoast dipshits like
this guy to flap their gums and accomplish sweet fuck-all, besides watering down a richly well-earned castigation from your then-president.
Wow, thanks for your insight "John." I thought they might be Martians, or robots, or crustaceans. See you on the fairway?
I have family throughout the Caribbean. The region is generally a shitshow of untrammeled corruption, but some islands are better-ran than others. One such accepted thirty pieces of silver to set up direct flights between their capital and Honduras's, a move greeted with some unease. Few months later? The country's first-ever organised kidnapping case, a pilot scheme of sorts. This is one of MS-13's primary industries, you see, and the wealthy residents and their children offered especially rich pickings. Who wants to see little Timmy burnt alive in an oil drum, mirite?
Fortunately the victim escaped, the perpetrators were caught and deported, and life went on. Could've easily ended in murder. This outfit and the culture they promulgate are utter cancer. As the US was finding out at the time, with those murders described in that story I linked. The island I describe has a tiny, well-guarded border with state-of-the-art policing. Woe to the US with its massive porous border and all the opportunities for criminal gangs that entails.
All this said, I do apologise for weeing on the rug with that oafish post. 3; A less assholic sort might've noted that atrocious home-invading violence is precisely why MS-13 is described as varying shades of inhuman throughout the entirety of the Americas, and wherever else they've managed to afflict. Not literally inhuman, of course, but we all know that.
As for the "karma" angle, I really hope you grasp what a truly gruesome Pandora's box that manner of mindset opens...by that logic should, say, people in favor of gun control feel they should openly celebrate - and/or encourage sequels to - the infamous shooting of Steve Scalise since he is, and remains, unabashedly pro-NRA? Or, to keep it more on-topic, since it appears that the guy who attacked Pelosi's husband was initially radicalized by Gamergate, should people critical of the movement vocally hope that, should he or others like him end up doing jail time, that they get raped as "comeuppance" for all the rape threats that were sent to others?
I'd say the same if George W. Bush or Joe Biden or Tony Blair came to similarly literary ends for their instrumental roles in the Iraq horror. Sometimes shitty people get shat upon, that's all. Just as often they don't.
A serial rape-threatener getting bummed to death sounds all well and good, tbh. That's one reason of many to scorn rape and threats of - nobody will object if you later end up on the wrong side of a Fatal Roger. (one of the more ignobly self-preserving reasons, to be sure, but I would assume we're at the baby-steps stage of morality with these types)
I'm not a Buddhist, nor would I even call it a mindset. Just a bit of black-humoured whimsy. (I get that it jars in a post about an old guy getting beaten with a hammer, but as noted I'm a bit of a COONT
)
I'd love to see what the larger response would be to such sentiments, particularly from self-styled hardcore "free speech" advocates; in any event, the over-arching question is, at what point is someone obligated to check himself and say "I'm starting to go beyond standard-issue schadenfreude into 'the abyss stares back' territory here"?
I don't like schadenfreude, as a rule. If you don't think a person deserves every last crumb of the shit falling upon them, and you get satisfaction anyway, imo you might be a sadist. (as opposed to a plain old vindictive cunt, like me)