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I would have gone with Dirty Mind myself. Sign O The Times is just a little bit past what I would consider his classic period that exists outside of "Prince Fans" line of sight IMHO. Still a great listen for sure, but it's not a Prince starter-pack.

Dirty Mind exists in the gap between his 70's soul output and the moment that he transformed into the enigma. It has the energy of Purple Rain but not the grandeur, and features some of his best tunes. It also lifts the corner of the rug up to show you the sickness that lurks beneath.
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Vol. 2: yes, I mostly agree on Dirty Mind if only because it includes Do it all night and its very catchy, very silly and joyful refrain (not unlike Soft & Wet, for instance).

Going deeper into Prince's discography, and I feel that Sign O' Times is a transition album, too.
I am getting the impression that he wanted to wrap up a number of ideas and experiments on the many genres he used and mixed in his songs, before moving on.

Re: "Prince Fans".
Ironically, I asked about Prince because the parents would consider themselves fans of him (they attended the Purple Rain tour concert in Rome, '85), but their answers on the topic were next to useless.
Let's say that the female parent had to be briefed on the departure of The Artist Under Discussion (TM), as she was unaware of the sad event ("Oh Noes! Really?! Is it recent?!").
...and anything The Artist released after Parade, which might be the last album in the fans' line of sight, I guess.

...I like the Batman OST, btw. Batdance feels like a neurotic counterpart to Rocky IV, in its being a collage of several sound snippets.
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No, a lot of people like the BM OST. Nothing to feel shy about. It's very much a funky affair and is totally listenable.

As for Dirty Mind, I would put the title track and "When You Were Mine" on the very top of his heap. The rest of it is either very twisted ("Head" and "Sister" for example) or very funky and somewhat ordinary but super catchy.
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There was this early 00s Canadian goth/pop/rock project named "Devil May Cry," who'd lifted their name wholesale off the then hip n' trendy new videogame. Happened across them BITD while Napstering such Stylish Hard Action bangers as PUBIC ENEMY and RED HOT JUICE - the sneaky buggers! Looked 'em up yesterday, mostly wondering if they'd ever had any affiliation with Capcom. TLDR: Nope! However, that tune of theirs stuck in my head. It's not terrible, tbh it'd do alright as credits BGM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGYx-EUE3U

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^ Rival Schools' United By Fate.

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^ Art of Fighting's Wires. Good ol' days of "GTFO my results you smug indie cunts, I'm searching for OSTs!" Image
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Still going through Prince's discography, very slowly.

Cannot make my mind up about Purple Rain. The titular track still annoys me like it did when I was a child. 6 minutes of slow pandering to "the wimmen", and then a beautiful final minute of progressive crescendo.
Said this, When doves cry is a song that feels at the same time beautiful and too close for comfort.
I seldom notice lyrics in general. My brain magically turns them to solfeggio notes, a la Einstein on the Beach.
However, I did notice the lyrics of this song and they give me this eerie feeling of my fights with the waifu.
I would like to watch the movie again, though.
The waifu is S. Korean so she didn't have direct access to most of these '80s classics (I mean, she watched The Neverending story a few years ago!).

...I had a moment in which I scribbled down notes about artists and bands of which I would like to "study" their whole output, because it's been too long since I listened to something from them, or because I keep saying that I should know their music better, or whatever other reason.

A noble plan in theory, but I would probably need to treat it like a mission or a side job, or something.
I could only muster artists who have decades of regular output (e.g. Pat Metheny, Prince, but also Iron Maiden, Opeth...etc.), to be fair.
I don't listen to music when I work unless I am doing administrative stuff (i.e. 1 hour max per day), so it would take me more or less forever, I guess.

Oh well, thanks for reading this pointless Sunday rant :wink:
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Purple Rain is inseparable from the moment in time that it evokes for me. That whole album has such a stamp to it, and the production is so goddamned idiosyncratic that I absolutely cannot divorce it from the feeling and the memories.

Yes, maybe some of the lyrics are a bit contrived, but that doesn't take away from the album's ability to create a singular mood and to ensconce the listener in an environment all of it's own.

Prince went on to write much better conceived songs, but he never again came close to the narrative cohesion that Purple Rain creates.
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I was weirdly under-exposed to Purple Rain's title track, back in the day. I was a bit too young at its release, but I can't remember it from our (fairly limited) US/European radio play, while "When Doves Cry" and several others of his were ubiquitous throughout the 90s. I enjoy it a lot, as more of a mood piece. Never actually seen the film... "Doves" is just a killer bit of popsmithery, catchy and haunting with production as unforgettably stark as its lyrics.

Dirty Mind is a great starter point, indeed more logical than Sign now I think about it. I consider the latter a showcase of the guy's sheer Bowie-esque range and mastery. A rare man.

I've never really gotten into his post-renaming stuff, though I always thought "Pussy Control" was cool (happy to see it reach a new generation/medium via the JoJo Part 5 anime's Passione Torture Dance :cool:) Still wondering where the "Are you ready?" sample is from... I've idle dreams of incorporating it into some dream STG/run n' gun, haha. Wish I could find that live VH1 Fashion Awards performance of it, blew away the studio one imo. At a glance, all the ones still around are dubbed over with the studio track.
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I really need to catch up on JOJO. I'm at the 3/4 mark of Diamond and I felt like it really started to drag, but maybe I can get excited again now that I put it down for awhile.

Now I'm listening to Purple Rain, it's been so so long that I thought I see what happens. It still brings to me to the place it did, but I realize now that I have an extraordinarily fancy record player setup compared to anything I would have had back then and I'm hearing it in a way I've never heard before.

This is like Steely Dan level studio wizardry. There are few albums that scale in reward with the quality of your hifi like this one does.
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Part 4/Diamond does meander quite a bit. I remember diving into it after burning through Parts 2 and 3, expecting more scenic seek-and-destroy; was totally nonplussed by its almost slice of life, "What if random townsfolk suddenly had Stands?" vignettes. I enjoyed it more on a revisit, when I knew what to expect.

Parts 5 and 6, conversely, veer hard back to Part 3's format... fractious young protagonists pursuing shadowy, demigod-powerful archvillains, while fending off their small armies of Stand-powered henchmen. They're good fun, but unmistakably a bit familiar, even at their wildest. The climactic terror of Part 3's The World is relatively simple, compared to the madness of later Parts, but it remains the standard to beat.

...typing this reminds me of my love for Part 4's climax, which I won't so much as hint at. :mrgreen: Very different. I'm looking forward to Part 8's conclusion, loved what I've read but I like to wait until a series is near-complete. Inveterate binger. :cool:

I've never actually watched Part 4's anime, which always move slower than manga devoured by a page-turning reader... recently revisited samurai nightmare Shigurui's anime and manga. The former's adaptation, while excellent and remarkably faithful, is a veritable doom metal dirge. Slow and heavy as all hell - which works great with the cruel feudal air, plus duels being authentically ruinous - one good strike and that's usually it, two is unusual, three signals an epic clash - and most importantly, its only covering a handful of chapters that absolutely fly past, on the page.
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Araki Hirohiko has always been a great fan of Prince.
Josuke and Giorno are extremely obvious examples, but by his own admission, he took inspiration for stories' composition and tempo from Prince's early works.
(Excerpts are here, maybe).

David Bowie is the other source, and I would be tempted to link you to something I published a while ago, but I digress (you may know Araki's picture in which he poses like Bowie on Heroes's cover, though).

...and yes. Purple Rain triggers some lost memories of my natural parents and, with them, of my '80s childhood.
I cannot think of any work of art more embedded in the cultural horizon of its time than this, right now.
I also agree that I need a proper stereo setup. Any time I listen to Steely Dan and, in particular, to Fagen's The Nightfly, I must acknowledge that quite a bit is lost on my current set-up :wink:
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Aww jeeze. That mythical live VH1 Fashion Awards version of "Pussy Control" I spent an afternoon searching up must've been someone's pet project, because spinning up The Gold Experience, the opener track is every bit the New Jack-inflected banger I recalled. The intro en espanol is the giveaway. The actual VH1 clip used an overdubbed remix, nowhere as good as the spacey yet super-crisp album cut.

Pussy got bank in her pockets / Before she got dick in her drawers
If a brother didn't have good n' plenty of his own / In love Pussy never did fall ♫


The studio track/live footage hybrid I recall seems to be gone from the internet, sadly. Wasn't too long ago you couldn't find Prince stuff on Youtube, period. I will have to see about cutting my own rendition. :cool: Wish I'd saved it. Was nice n' trippy, with the necessary repeating of choice clips to make a 4min performance cover a 6min studio track. Splendid birds as always from Mr. Rogers-Nelson. Image

Well I'm that nigga!
(...at least I wanna be!)
But it's gonna be hard as hell / To keep my mind off a body
That would make every rich man want 2 sell, sell, sell ♫


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I’ve been listening to Cannons. Caught their song on the radio. Always a nice surprise to actually hear something that I like on the radio. I’m surprised that they do get play on the radio. Sorta disco synth wave with some decent guitar stuff. Decent stuff if I’m in the right mood.

https://youtu.be/u4HQevc9JE0

Korine. Huge New Order vibes here. If I heard this track instrumental I probably believed this was New Order. I have to admit the lead singer isn’t probably going to be everyone’s cup of tea, though.

https://youtu.be/KbzueS3H3Tw

Also really enjoyed the collaboration between Health and Poppy. Shoegaze and NIN vibes.

https://youtu.be/tlkdkQR2gUs

Also looking forward to checking out the new Grivo album. Really enjoyed their last album a lot. Deep dark shoegaze.

https://youtu.be/WhLzSVjkJdA
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Listening to Survival album by Bob Marley & the Wailers, purchased as a bargain bin CD of sorts lately, most striking comparisons with London Calling by The Clash emerge, in terms of - bear with me - production values. Mostly the emphasis on rhythm section, trivial as it sounds. By this I mean - both are super-produced material. Someone made sure they will be played on and on and on. Most marvellous CLASHING of Caribbean musical invasion upon UK's technological audio park (those were the days of The Police to say the least). Ambush in the night.
To put things into perspective, those were also the days of Toto and Foreigner, just in case.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:Ambush in the night.
Great song, hell of a story. The breezily stoic air on those late 70s Wailers albums is always curative, even moreso considering the rather nightmarish conditions of Marley and family's life around then. Jam always had some wizardly dudes around the mixing desks. Image
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BIL wrote:Dig this, scintillating take from Heaven & Hell aka Mob Sabbath's final tour.
damn. blocked in the US
Totally overlooked this post a page back. :o This any better? Worth going through a proxy for at any rate. :cool: Dio/Iommi/Butler/Appice in masterly form. One of those bands where you can swap out half the classic lineup and still have four categorically iconic musicians... and even the revolving door years had some real killers like Cozy Powell, Glenn Hughes and Tony Martin. And uh Ice-T. >_> Dude's more a Motorhead sort. Image
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Currently spinning this:
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Patrick Cowley: Pioneer of electronic music via San Francisco clubs in the 70's and lots and lots of gay porn soundtracks. Tragic early victim of AIDS.

Really legit stuff. Highly recommended to anyone into synth pop, ambient and quirky disco.
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New Order, Perfect Kiss just introduced me to Swans Way, Soul Train
so cool

and something of thier vibe reminded me of Rare Silk, another amazing old music discovery, thanks youtube!
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So, while slowly plodding through the whole Prince discography, I decided to also attempt a Beck (Hansen) retrospective.

Going slowly, but when I popped up Midnite Vultures and reached Debra, I had these flashbacks of a drunken New Year's Eve (2006, the year before I moved to Australia) in which somebody made me sing this song in playback, complete with improbable white suit, red shirt and black tie, and acting extremely flippant in order to capture the general spirit of the lyrics.

Apparently, there is video proof of those wonder years, and those mementos of years past seem to have find an educational purpose among the younger generations of humanities' students from my first Alma Mater. Also apparently, people seem to ask where that mildly baffling guy ended up at, and of course conjecture that he must have ended up in some dire straits.

Maybe they're right after all, eh.

(No, really, Debra remains a song that I cannot listen to, without chuckling at every line).
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I had three Beck albums back in the 90s. One Foot in the Grave, Mellow Gold, and Mutations. I saw him play the Mellow Gold album at Lollapalooza in either 93 or 94; went to both and cant remember which it was.

The second Midnight Vultures came out, he lost me. Everyone seemed to love that fucking album but me and I don't know what it was, it just rubbed me the wrong way. Then later I found out that he was all serious scientology and whatnot. IIRC, his family was and he was raised. I just don't know had a weird feeling about that stuff.
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Midnight Vultures is one of favorite 90’s albums. What a ridiculous party album. Only Beck album I enjoyed really.
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Personally, Odelay, Mutations and Midnite Vultures are my favourite albums as those are the ones in which he explored all his musical influences and attempted to merge them into a single style.

Early works include great songs (e.g. MTV makes me wanna smoke crack), whereas latter works strike me as treading familiar ground, but with the occasional good song (Movie theme in The Information). I adore Dead Weight and its Latino-style absurdist themes, too.

In 2008 he left whatever major he was working for, and went Indie/self-published/etc. I find all of his works from that year to Hyperspace (2019) more or less forgettable, in the sense that Beck stopped trying to be original and focused on doing a certain sort of rock/pop songs that may be pleasing to the casual listener (e.g. Colours, and then there was the "traditional folk song" album or whatever). In a sense, he stopped being a "Fluxus" artist like his grandpa, went back to each of the genres he was inspired from, and created OK albums in those genres.

Hyperspace sounds a bit like "Beck wants to do Vaporware/Synthwave", but it has that expansive, dreamy-like sound that I generally enjoy in artists attempting to do "Space Music". Hey, Nasa suggested to pair the album with a retrospective of their missions. I blissfully adore Chemical and Hyperspace. People may unconditionally hate the album once they discover who the producer was, though (eheh!).

I must say that as soon as my mind detects any Scientology reference, my mind filters them out at once. Frankly, I tend to filter out whatever lyrics can be about 99% of the time - I would listen only to instrumental music, if I would ignore songs with lyrics that I find irritating (!).
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I still remember all the lyrics to Loser. At least what I thought the lyrics were at age 13.

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Beck is all childhood to me, Loser of course, and Satan gave me a taco (from one foot in the grave album). The background vocals here, and on the whole album are really hilarious :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-XuMvxi-vc

Totally different genre, I'm still mesmerized by some ladies singing in metal bands. Courtney Laplante is really good in Spiritbox (a.k.a. Evanescence with actual headbang), check out those melodies, and that ending !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMnfkW9UZc4
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Randorama wrote:Personally, Odelay, Mutations and Midnite Vultures are my favourite albums as those are the ones in which he explored all his musical influences and attempted to merge them into a single style.

Early works include great songs (e.g. MTV makes me wanna smoke crack), whereas latter works strike me as treading familiar ground, but with the occasional good song (Movie theme in The Information). I adore Dead Weight and its Latino-style absurdist themes, too. Those songs can easily be converted to mp3 via this online tool which can change any audio formats. A really handy thing!

In 2008 he left whatever major he was working for, and went Indie/self-published/etc. I find all of his works from that year to Hyperspace (2019) more or less forgettable, in the sense that Beck stopped trying to be original and focused on doing a certain sort of rock/pop songs that may be pleasing to the casual listener (e.g. Colours, and then there was the "traditional folk song" album or whatever). In a sense, he stopped being a "Fluxus" artist like his grandpa, went back to each of the genres he was inspired from, and created OK albums in those genres.

Hyperspace sounds a bit like "Beck wants to do Vaporware/Synthwave", but it has that expansive, dreamy-like sound that I generally enjoy in artists attempting to do "Space Music". Hey, Nasa suggested to pair the album with a retrospective of their missions. I blissfully adore Chemical and Hyperspace. People may unconditionally hate the album once they discover who the producer was, though (eheh!).

I must say that as soon as my mind detects any Scientology reference, my mind filters them out at once. Frankly, I tend to filter out whatever lyrics can be about 99% of the time - I would listen only to instrumental music, if I would ignore songs with lyrics that I find irritating (!).
Philip George - Love Inside!
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Ol' novelty fave, everyone seems to come back judging by the comments. Be all collective consciousness and shit. Hilarious dancehall lament Image

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Dick Curless - Tombstone Every Mile

Catchy ditty about the brutally treacherous winter roads in Hainseville (edit: Haynesville, rather!) Maine, and the truckers who've died on them. Fuckin hardcore. Image Good old salt of the earth working people music. Image
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That's interesting. I lived in Maine for 5 years, but not that part of the state. Haynesville is up near the Canadian border, I visited Bangor once but never went farther north than that. Where I lived (Farmington, then Augusta), the roads were pretty well taken care of in the winter, but special tires and/or chains were still needed during storms before the plow/treatment trucks could get out to me to clear the way.

Where are you from, BIL?
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BIL wrote:Dick Curless - Tombstone Every Mile

Catchy ditty about the brutally treacherous winter roads in Haynesville, Maine, and the truckers who've died on them. Fuckin hardcore. Image Good old salt of the earth working people music. Image
OmegaFlareX wrote:That's interesting. I lived in Maine for 5 years, but not that part of the state. Haynesville is up near the Canadian border, I visited Bangor once but never went farther north than that. Where I lived (Farmington, then Augusta), the roads were pretty well taken care of in the winter, but special tires and/or chains were still needed during storms before the plow/treatment trucks could get out to me to clear the way.

Where are you from, BIL?
Born and raised in the West Indies, though at this point I've lived more than half my life in the UK where my old man's from. :smile:

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That wicked dry Yukon freeze is the coldest I've ever been, always has an air of myth for someone from a tropical climate. We often spent Christmases with relatives in Illinois and further up north in Niagra, quickly learned that burning dry cold is a totally different animal than the damp chill of the British isles, layers non-optional. Being wrecked and stranded out there sounds pretty goddamn grim, wonder if there are any good survival stories. :shock:

There's always a colder dude somewhere out there, though!

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There's a certain commonality too, I suppose... just about every male relative on my mom's side grew up working at sea, death was no great surprise (particularly with post-WWII nautical/medical technology handed down from the mother country). Quite a few uncles and cousins I never met. By the time my generation came along, the landscape was entirely different. Only guys I knew who went out there had a love of the water I never shared, I hate shit you can't control. :lol:
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Just got this tape in the mail by my friend Zach. It's all upright bass minimalist composition. Zach is/was a student of the Romanian composer Iancu Dumitrescu.

This isn't going to be for everyone; the vibe is something like Phillip Glass but a lot more raw and visceral. The label, Crush Zone, is run by a single dude that lives out in Todmorden, which is way in the north of England near Leeds.

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