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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:06 am 


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Is it worth getting Tokyo Xanadu eX+ over the Vita version, or is the "eX+" just an attempt to market the more expensive PS4 version?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/228179-toky ... ifferences
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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:45 am 


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You coulda just said "yes" and I'd trust you :P


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:53 am 


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Sumez wrote:
You coulda just said "yes" and I'd trust you :P

When you have access to such a detailed answer, might as well share it. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:21 pm 



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To add to the above, my understanding is that the original doesn't have the "side story" chapters or the post-game "true ending" chapter, which is probably around a third of the content in eX+. Also, the combat system in the original is simpler, and it's easier (which is kind of eyebrow-raising; even in eX+, you'll need to forget healing items are in the game to get a meaningful challenge on Nightmare) and worse balanced.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:09 am 


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Been replaying Ys Origin with the .ogg music files from Oath put in and I'm having a blast. I realized while playing through Hugo's arc that this is the game Devil May Cry 3 would have been, storywise, if it took itself completely seriously.

Thankfully DMC3 did not.
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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:46 pm 



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Ys 8 has a release date on Steam: January 30.


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:24 pm 


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Ys 8 has a release date on Steam: January 30.

Yep: http://www.siliconera.com/2018/01/10/ys ... y-30-2018/
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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:49 pm 



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I'll be on work travel from Jan 20 through Feb 1st, but I know what I'll be playing as soon as I get back!


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Lemme know if the PC port runs like shit!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:18 pm 



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NISA hired Durante to work on it, so I've got faith that they've got those issues worked out.


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:38 pm 



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Just finished the "normal ending" of Tokyo Xanadu eX+ last night. I can only assume the plot twists in the last 8 hours were the result of someone sneaking some LSD into Falcom's drinking water -- even M. Night Shamylan would reject these as being too outlandish. Still, fun game, recommended to pretty much anyone who likes Falcom's style.


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:46 pm 


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Obscura wrote:
Just finished the "normal ending" of Tokyo Xanadu eX+ last night. I can only assume the plot twists in the last 8 hours were the result of someone sneaking some LSD into Falcom's drinking water -- even M. Night Shamylan would reject these as being too outlandish. Still, fun game, recommended to pretty much anyone who likes Falcom's style.

Prepare yourself for the delicious deus ex machina that is the true ending.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:32 pm 



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BTW, does anyone know what the un-subbed Japanese stuff that the final boss is saying in her transitions between dragon form and little girl wizard form is?


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Just saw the true ending... what the hell was any of that?!?! "Oh, you want a happy ending, ok here's some random crap including the return of a midgame boss as the TLB with more HP, take your happy ending and be happy and ignore that none of it makes any damn sense!"


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 am 


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Obscura wrote:
Just saw the true ending... what the hell was any of that?!?! "Oh, you want a happy ending, ok here's some random crap including the return of a midgame boss as the TLB with more HP, take your happy ending and be happy and ignore that none of it makes any damn sense!"

Now go play After Story for Halloween stuff, then more dungeons with that shadowy kid from one of the side stories.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:12 am 


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Zwei1 in 2 weeks
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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:31 pm 


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Hugo Fact is an asshole and a pain.
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Ys VIII was announced for Switch.


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 Post subject: Re: FALCOM Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:59 pm 



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Obscura wrote:
Just saw the true ending... what the hell was any of that?!?! "Oh, you want a happy ending, ok here's some random crap including the return of a midgame boss as the TLB with more HP, take your happy ending and be happy and ignore that none of it makes any damn sense!"

Now go play After Story for Halloween stuff, then more dungeons with that shadowy kid from one of the side stories.

I ran through the free time quests after making that post. Will finish the rest tonight.

Funny thing -- if you change someone's costume in a dungeon, the game won't change it to anything more appropriate when school rolls around. This leads to hilarious screenshots such as:
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm 


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Don't forget the DLC swimsuits, even though there's no "beach episode" in this game. :lol:
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I never buy costume DLC, but that makes me kinda wish that they gave you the "soaking in the hot springs" costumes for general usage :lol:

(Also, there's no beach scene, but there *is* the P.E. swimming/swimsuit scene.)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:56 pm 


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I would never pay for DLC costumes in any game, though an add-on that makes the Eternia girls in Ys VIII wear something decent would definitely be tempting.


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Sumez wrote:
I would never pay for DLC costumes in any game, though an add-on that makes the Eternia girls in Ys VIII wear something decent would definitely be tempting.


All I want is some pants, a decent pair of pants


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:23 am 



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Welp, doesn't look like I'll be beating the Tokyo Xanadu after story. No idea what the hell they want me to do against this final boss, as soon as it summons its elementals the camera goes crazy and one hit wipes my entire party.

EDIT: Went ahead and item-spammed through it. There's really no other way; lots of the final boss's attacks are clearly not meant to be dodgeable, and the way he can just chain-attack characters to death is pretty much total bullshit. What a sorry ending. The game would have been much better off without any of the True End/After Story content, it's all basically garbage (and the normal ending is actually the most satisfying one TBH).


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:19 pm 


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what button configuration do you guys use for origin? i'm finding that with hugo it's much more important to switch between special weapons during boss fights and i have been using a saturn usb pad with attack, jump and special set to a,b,c in that order and weapon switch on r. i've been playing mostly using my fingers on my right hand rather than my thumb so i can keep my special charging while still jumping and attacking freely, but this makes it a bit tricky to switch weapons.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:36 pm 



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I play on an X360 pad, so I've got plenty of buttons. I do swap "next spell" with "charge spell", though, so that I can have charge spell on a shoulder button to keep it charged easier; as a result, "previous spell" is on LB and "next spell" is on a face button, but whatevs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:25 pm 


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Ys: Memory of Celceta PC port practically confirmed this for release this year
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:29 pm 


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Nice! I'm happy that more people will get to enjoy this one


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:47 pm 



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I believe that that'll put every "modern" Falcom action-oriented game on Steam?

A bit bittersweet, that. On one hand, WOOOOO, more Falcom! On the other hand, man, having to wait for new games to get both developed and translated (and, probably, ported as well) is going to be brutal.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:06 pm 


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I've been trying to play the PC-88 version of the first Ys, but the various emulators all seem to play the music at different speeds... assuming this is correct, the BGM is much too slow in M88; faster in XM8, but still slow; and likewise for MAME's PC-88 driver (which is marked NOT_WORKING, but whatever). X88000 has audio emulation, but I couldn't hear anything when I tried it in that one. (EDIT: seems FM sound was never implemented; the author includes it on a to-do list, but the last release was in August 2016.)

QUASI88 boots to BASIC but wouldn't load the disk for whatever reason. Tried write-protecting it to see if it was a copy-protection issue. Still nothing.

And yes, I've already played the PC Engine version.

Interestingly enough, X88000 is the only one of these that displays incorrect colors when Ys is played in V2 mode. It's probably just differences in the default settings, but I really would like to be sure...

EDIT: I see now that, assuming the source is accurate, "Open Your Heart" only plays at the right speed in blueMSX when in PAL mode, and even then it's at the wrong pitch... I'd really like to know what's up.

EDIT 2: Nothing in M88 appears to correct the speed of the game (or even just the music). Emulating memory or FDD wait slows the game down to a crawl despite it sounding like it should fix the problem. Maybe the OST was recorded on an 88VA or later? (Higher CPU, memory, and VRAM would suggest a faster in-game speed...)

EDIT 3: This video of the Ys II opening playing on a PC-8801 mkIIFR disproves my hypothesis. Hmm...

EDIT 4: "First Step Toward Wars" and "Palace" play at the correct speed on most emulators, even if "Feena" and "Fountain of Love" do not. So... while not perfect, I'll have to settle for one of these, whether because I have an issue with my setup or because no one has been able to get those two themes right, however unlikely the latter case may be.

EDIT 5: X Millennium's rendition of "Open Your Heart" matches the recording. I'm guessing it was a porting issue.

EDIT 6: QUASI88's rendition of "Feena" and "Fountain of Love" match up with this recording. All good.
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