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 Post subject: Rare Taito game found
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:38 pm 



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http://www.gamengai.com/forum/viewtopic ... 003#p28003

Came across this the other day. Vertexer is a really rare racing game on Taito's IDYA motion simulator cab (Galactic Storm was on there too apparently?) and it looks really cool from what I can see in these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9wLdCl5ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deugYHEbzmE

Seems to be part of the inspiration for F-Zero X with the way the tracks loop and bank around.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:39 pm 


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Wow, the presentation for this game is utterly amazing! It's hard to tell because the recording is low quality, but it looks like the graphics may have been pushed a little too hard - it seems like the framerate is crawling a bit. Maybe the hardware requirements are why it was never localized.

I wish I could see a better video.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:42 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Looks a little like Speed Racer meets F-Zero. I'd play that :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:05 pm 


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That awesome but, wait...

...he got his hand on a Genkai Chousen Distopia prototype board ? :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:11 pm 


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That framerate is atrocious. It barely looks playable.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Does look like a tech demo and yeah, resembles 3D F-Zero. I wonder how Taito put their share of tragedy in it.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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That framerate is atrocious. It barely looks playable.


It could be the capture device, plus transcoding and uploading to Youtube. I've had 60fps videos end up playing at 15 if I didn't use several workarounds.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:01 pm 


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Specineff wrote:
Udderdude wrote:
That framerate is atrocious. It barely looks playable.


It could be the capture device, plus transcoding and uploading to Youtube. I've had 60fps videos end up playing at 15 if I didn't use several workarounds.


My reaction was that it was probably a problem with the capture (which is also super compressy)
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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It's gotta be the camera, the framerate jumps all over the place. Will be cool to see in motion though.

I googled the IDYA cab that used this game and I found a flyer with an LD game listed called Cave Speeder...probably hard to come by but a dump of that would rock.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Looks DAMN nice, and Tamayo's BGM is as always excellent. Hopefully the frame rate issues are indeed the video's fault and not the game's.

I wonder if Saturn could have done this given the right porting team.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Man, I need this. I am a complete and utter sucker for crazy scaling shit like this, and my dick is rock hard.

For some reason, I think I saw something that looked a lot like this before, but not at such a horrible framerate. Might be mixing it up with another game entirely.
and it looks like any time there's any extensive motion at all, the framerate drops, so it might be the encode, not the board running so slow [really, I can't even imagine it getting released in any capacity if it was sub-20fps, let alone what we're seeing in the video, and I'd expect it to be either 30 or full 60 in real life]
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Found the same videos but much smoother: https://archive.org/details/taito-vertexer-footage

Now I'm hard too.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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Nice find, looks really impressive now.


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So cool. Looks Night Striker-smooth.
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It looks like Power Drift except with way, way more style. I want to play this so much now. Why wasn't there ever a port made?!
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Echoing everyone else here, very cool find indeed!


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Taito game found
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BareKnuckleRoo wrote:
It looks like Power Drift except with way, way more style. I want to play this so much now. Why wasn't there ever a port made?!


Cuz maybe it sucks? :lol: Who knows.

I've been wondering about this game ever since hearing the two awesome songs on Zuntata's L'ab Normal 2nd compilation.

What I'm really hype about though, is that Shou has apparently sourced Genkai Chousen Distopia!


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First Distopia, then Vertexer. Is there any board this man can't find?
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Indeed. Don't ever doubt his dedication. I know a lot of people in the world are passionate about games, but he dumps rare shit and has never even booted Mame! :?
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That archive.org video definitely looks better.

Sucks that there's only 2 music tracks from it on OSTs though, the rest of the music (attract mode in particular) is really good. Dunno how one would go about ripping it when it's dumped but I'd listen to it all day.
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The sound quality is likely not that great. You could always start an online petition to get them to release it on vinyl. Online petitions always work.
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I hadn't even noticed the Distropia news on top of this. Man of PCB legend.

If he ever turns up Blast Wind AC my boner will obliterate the planet.
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The sound quality is likely not that great.

What's the reasoning? My understanding is that it's the same Ensoniq hardware they switched to after their YM2610 stuff. Should sound just as good as any F3 game.

Sound rip shouldn't be too hard, as long as MAME has a decent emulation of the sound chip (I believe the sound generator is OK and the DSP that goes over that is... not perfectly emulated, but not 100% sure).
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Fuck the rom, it would be nice okay, but I want the game with the whole fucking IDYA cab in my flat.
Plus the Japanese engineer to operate it, I don't care, I'll feed him.
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So you start off in orbit, race down through the atmosphere, plunge into the ocean, and it just gets crazier from there.

Yeah, that's some awesome stuff.
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What's the reasoning?


Me not knowing about hardware. If the chip can handle the sample rate there's no reason it won't sound good. I kind of went back to the 80's when the soundchips weren't quite as dope as later games.
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