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Ajora · Joined: 17 Apr 2017 Posts: 186

新・キューティーハニー見て居る。だいすきです !

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

FinalBaton wrote:

yes, GP's input on Jippang culture, and his experiences in the fan-subbing community, are priceless!

yep his LD subbing stories are class

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

soprano1 wrote:

Raytrace wrote:

rewatching Nadesico atm - it is great - mecha art is beautiful

GEKIGANGER SREEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

I need some mecha anime. Maybe it's time to man up and watch G Gundam, long overdue.

Gekiganger is hotblooded manime

what mecha shows have you watched btw?

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

rewatching Robot Carnival atm, I like most of them, but call me not arty enough, but Sweet Jesus 'Cloud' is boring...

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

Raytrace wrote:

soprano1 wrote:

Raytrace wrote:

rewatching Nadesico atm - it is great - mecha art is beautiful

GEKIGANGER SREEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

I need some mecha anime. Maybe it's time to man up and watch G Gundam, long overdue.

Gekiganger is hotblooded manime

what mecha shows have you watched btw?

Not that I was asked but...

I've finished Eva, Gundam, Zeta G, ZZ G, Macross, Macross Frontier, Godannar, Gravion, Gasaraki, Patlabor, Full Metal Panic, Blue Comet SPT Layzner, Heavy Metal L-Gaim, Linebarrel of Iron, Code Geass, Eureka 7, Escaflowne, Fafner, RahXephon, Vandread, Blue Gender, Nadesico, Genesis Climber Mospeada, Space Runway Ideon, Xabungle, Gaogaigar, King Gainer, Orguss, Fang of the Sun Dougram.

Then there are too many OAV/movie one-off things to list.

I watched way too much during my school years. But man, consider that I never finished Southern Cross, it's that bad lol. Also there are probably some I forgot.

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

Steamflogger Boss wrote:

Not that I was asked but...

I've finished Eva, Gundam, Zeta G, ZZ G, Macross, Macross Frontier, Godannar, Gravion, Gasaraki, Patlabor, Full Metal Panic, Blue Comet SPT Layzner, Heavy Metal L-Gaim, Linebarrel of Iron, Code Geass, Eureka 7, Escaflowne, Fafner, RahXephon, Vandread, Blue Gender, Nadesico, Genesis Climber Mospeada, Space Runway Ideon, Xabungle, Gaogaigar, King Gainer, Orguss, Fang of the Sun Dougram.

Then there are too many OAV/movie one-off things to list.

I watched way too much during my school years. But man, consider that I never finished Southern Cross, it's that bad lol. Also there are probably some I forgot.

good stuff overall - yeah I did finish [i[Southern Cross[/i] but it was easily one of the most boring anime I've ever watched. I have not watched Gravion cos it seemed a bit too pervy for me, but I've heard people saying it's good. I've never heard of Godannar

. I've seen everything else except Full Metal Panic and Linebarrel of Iron.

Have you watched the main UC OVAs? (0080, 08th Ms, 0083)?

King Gainer is one my favourite Tomino anythings, even though it effectively doesn't really have an ending.

WelshMegalodon · Joined: 11 Dec 2015 Posts: 1004

Ajora wrote:

新・キューティーハニー見て居る。だいすきです !

Fを見たことがあるか？それとニューは一番良かったよ...

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

I've seen MS Team but still do need to see the other two, which I intend to do eventually. I've seen Unicorn too, and the first 4 episodes of Origin. I'm currently kinda in a UC slow burn rewatch but I'm also bouncing around with longer shows, the last few nights for a night cap I've just watched an episode of Lupin the 3rd Part 2. Which is really good light pre-bed viewing for me.

Someone else mentioned Godannar within the last few pages I feel, but I might be hallucinating on that. It's not great but on a level of a fair chunk of the list I posted I'd say.

Gainer is wonderful, yeah. That one and several others on the list (L-Gaim, Xabungle, Ideon) I discovered because of the original Gundam and wanted to see more from Tomino.

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

Steamflogger Boss wrote:

I've seen MS Team but still do need to see the other two, which I intend to do eventually. I've seen Unicorn too, and the first 4 episodes of Origin. I'm currently kinda in a UC slow burn rewatch but I'm also bouncing around with longer shows, the last few nights for a night cap I've just watched an episode of Lupin the 3rd Part 2. Which is really good light pre-bed viewing for me.

Someone else mentioned Godannar within the last few pages I feel, but I might be hallucinating on that. It's not great but on a level of a fair chunk of the list I posted I'd say.

Gainer is wonderful, yeah. That one and several others on the list (L-Gaim, Xabungle, Ideon) I discovered because of the original Gundam and wanted to see more from Tomino.

yeah Xabungle and Gainer are very similar - I think even though sometimes his pacing (and exposition (or lack of it) is all over the place, Tomino does really brilliant atmospheric world-building imo.

MS Team is good though I wish it didn't have the overpowered mobile armour and the last section (even though it was good for what it was), as I preferred the psuedo Vietnam movie 'gritty' feel up till then. As an aside, I wish Sunrise would make an anime (possibly a one shot OVA) of UC Hard Graph, it's my favourite Gundam manga.

0080 is absolutely incredible

0083 isnt completely amazing story wise, although as a Zeonic man I do thinkg Gato is a badass, but the art is amazing, especially the mecha with it's very dark shaded style.

I've done the full, full UC watch twice now and almost completing my third, which my daughter is going through with me :p

Victory Gundam is great, but so kinda melancholic and depressing, also all the mecha seemed to be missing one pass of shading for the most part. It would be fine if it seemed intentional or by design/stylistic (like some late ear Gainax/Trigger flat type stuff), but it doesn't the shape and linework of the mechas are 'realistic' and they just look like they're missing shading.

Turn A is incredible and although I only kinda liked it on first watch, I now love G-Reco, though most people kinda hate it.

https://myanimelist.net/animelist/r4ytrace&status=1&order=0

Vludi · Joined: 23 Feb 2016 Posts: 410 Location: Chile

Raytrace wrote:

rewatching Robot Carnival atm, I like most of them, but call me not arty enough, but Sweet Jesus 'Cloud' is boring...

What's your favorite? I think I like the Frankenstein one the most, very expressive animation. Presence was interesting as well but kinda weird, a great idea that could've been executed better.

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

Vludi wrote:

Raytrace wrote:

rewatching Robot Carnival atm, I like most of them, but call me not arty enough, but Sweet Jesus 'Cloud' is boring...

What's your favorite? I think I like the Frankenstein one the most, very expressive animation. Presence was interesting as well but kinda weird, a great idea that could've been executed better.

Frankenstein was very very impressive, but my favourites were ''Deprive' (because I love that classic 70s/early 80s mecha look), and I liked 'Presence'a lot, but I think the ending part could have been done in some more intriguing type of way.

next up: rewatches of

Memories

Neo Tokyo

Ajora · Joined: 17 Apr 2017 Posts: 186

WelshMegalodon wrote:

Ajora wrote:

新・キューティーハニー見て居る。だいすきです !

Fを見たことがあるか？それとニューは一番良かったよ...

Jitsu wa kana o kaku kopii/peisuto de dake dekimasu^_^;; Soreni chotto kanji o yomu dake dekimasu. Nihongo heta de gomennasai. Renshuu ga kansha shite iru.

I haven't seen Cutie Honey Flash. My introduction to the series was the live action movie (which I watched a week ago and absolutely loved), so I figured Shin Cutie Honey felt like a good point to work my way from. Damn good series, I must say.

WelshMegalodon · Joined: 11 Dec 2015 Posts: 1004

I'm honestly pretty rusty on the minuscule amount of Japanese I know myself, so you're fine. And for some reason I thought you were referring to Re: Cutey Honey in your last post instead of Shin (which I misremembered as also having been called 'New Cutey Honey' in Japan). In any case, the fact that we both endorse Shin means we're on the same page.

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

Raytrace wrote:

https://myanimelist.net/animelist/r4ytrace&status=1&order=0

Shopping Arcade <3

I recently got the BD of that Kenshin OVA, looks absolutely wonderful. Absolute meat grinder though.

M.Knight · Joined: 12 Dec 2013 Posts: 1072 Location: France

Raytrace wrote:

Victory Gundam is great, but so kinda melancholic and depressing

I wouldn't be surprised if my reaction to it is much less common than yours, but I actually found Victory Gundam extremely hilarous.
While the early episodes have a serious mood, I think it quickly devolves into way too goofy things for me to feel bad about the horrible stuff that is supposed to happen. It's completely unintended but the events and atmosphere feel so over-the-top that they end up very funny to me.
In a way, it's like a dark ZZ Gundam (and I love ZZ Gundam's humor)

Spoiler: show

soprano1 · Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 3029 Location: Portugal

Raytrace wrote:

Gekiganger is hotblooded manime

what mecha shows have you watched btw?

Sorry, time zones and work are a bitch. The simple answer is a lot, had too much free time from 2006 to around 2010 or so. I remember the great scandal of Gurren Lagann's episode 4 bullshit, that led to the rest of the series being animated by the people that later formed Studio Trigger.

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

M.Knight wrote:

Raytrace wrote:

Victory Gundam is great, but so kinda melancholic and depressing

I wouldn't be surprised if my reaction to it is much less common than yours, but I actually found Victory Gundam extremely hilarous.
While the early episodes have a serious mood, I think it quickly devolves into way too goofy things for me to feel bad about the horrible stuff that is supposed to happen. It's completely unintended but the events and atmosphere feel so over-the-top that they end up very funny to me.
In a way, it's like a dark ZZ Gundam (and I love ZZ Gundam's humor)

yeah when you list off all that stuff it is fairly funny I suppose

BrianC · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 7564 Location: MD

That stuff in Victory Gundam sounds like the craziness that often happens in some of those Sentai shows.

null1024 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:44 am

Victory Gundam is a real trip. I'd put it off for ages thinking it was going to be a depressing slog from what I'd heard before seeing it.
Man, fuck that -- Tomino was off his meds making it, but you couldn't help but laugh at how goofy it was.
I should really go re-watch it.

Still haven't finished Macross 7 though [doesn't help that the pacing is kinda awful -- I still enjoy the show quite a bit, but holy ass, it REALLY didn't need to be a 49 episode series]. Bunch of stuff on my "was watching/reading and then stopped for no reason" list that I should really get through.
Like, Devilman Lady. Really should finish reading that, shit was intense.

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

Frontier >>>> 7.

KAI · **Posted:** Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:06 pm

Kaguya-sama has been giving me some good laughts, watch it, it's fucking hilarious.

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

Kishin Corps OAV

Non-Nazi robots take on Nazi Robots + aliens. Also children are involved. As absurd as it sounds but honestly not terrible. People that get upset by swastikas should stay away as there are a lot in this anime.

Bounty Dog OAV

Even CPM/Manga knew this was bad. Enough said... But seriously this is legit one of the worst anime ever made, don't watch it.

M.Knight · Joined: 12 Dec 2013 Posts: 1072 Location: France

I am kinda curious to know what were the circumstances behind Victory Gundam's weirdness. It sounds like a lot of stuff must have been going on behind the scenes to create something as wacky as it. I see online mentions of Tomino being depressed and also angry at the execs forcing some stuff in the series but I haven't yet found any interview or some other more official source backing that kind of claims.

null1024 wrote:

Still haven't finished Macross 7 though [doesn't help that the pacing is kinda awful -- I still enjoy the show quite a bit, but holy ass, it REALLY didn't need to be a 49 episode series

It's a very repetitive and padded series, but the music is so good and Basara is such an entertaining lead that I didn't mind it that much in the end. Still, the amount of uneeded fat is easily the series' biggest flaw.
If you still have some patience left after watching the series, I suggest taking a look at the movie (Ginga ga Ore wo Yondeiru!) as well as the Dynamite OVA to have examples of more focused and streamlined Macross 7 content.

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

Steamflogger Boss wrote:

Kishin Corps OAV

Non-Nazi robots take on Nazi Robots + aliens. Also children are involved. As absurd as it sounds but honestly not terrible. People that get upset by swastikas should stay away as there are a lot in this anime.

Bounty Dog OAV

Even CPM/Manga knew this was bad. Enough said... But seriously this is legit one of the worst anime ever made, don't watch it.

Kishin Corps is brilliant - I love all the dials and stuff

Raytrace · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2172 Location: Éire

M.Knight wrote:

I am kinda curious to know what were the circumstances behind Victory Gundam's weirdness. It sounds like a lot of stuff must have been going on behind the scenes to create something as wacky as it. I see online mentions of Tomino being depressed and also angry at the execs forcing some stuff in the series but I haven't yet found any interview or some other more official source backing that kind of claims.

null1024 wrote:

Still haven't finished Macross 7 though [doesn't help that the pacing is kinda awful -- I still enjoy the show quite a bit, but holy ass, it REALLY didn't need to be a 49 episode series

It's a very repetitive and padded series, but the music is so good and Basara is such an entertaining lead that I didn't mind it that much in the end. Still, the amount of uneeded fat is easily the series' biggest flaw.
If you still have some patience left after watching the series, I suggest taking a look at the movie (Ginga ga Ore wo Yondeiru!) as well as the Dynamite OVA to have examples of more focused and streamlined Macross 7 content.

I adore 7, but yeah it is kinda repetitive, the other stuff and especially the Meltradi girl in the mountains one are amazing

FIRE!

soprano1 · Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 3029 Location: Portugal

Started watching G Gundam this week. It's fucking great.

Spoiler: show

HOTBLOODED AS FUCK!

Steamflogger Boss · Joined: 09 Jul 2017 Posts: 2398 Location: Eating the Rich

Omg that pic is amazing, love it.

Weak Boson · Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 494

G Gundam is awesome ! It's been ages since I rewatched it but I remember it being a treat even the second time around

EDIT: I just watched a random episode (08, Revenge of the Space Police) and 1) it was awesome and 2) I forgot how much I loved the dub wherein any reference to killing and death was replaced with hilariously clunky phrases like "you mean to say that this assassin was here to... end someone's life ????"

Ajora · Joined: 17 Apr 2017 Posts: 186

Season 3 of Sailor Moon Crystal is easily the best season so far, but Chibiusa brings the whole thing down a bit. Ironic how she yelled at Usagi for acting like a child, even though Chibiusa is 900 years old and acts like she's 5. Her Electra complex is downright creepy. This is easily one of the most purely unlikable fictional characters I've ever seen.

Eh, enough negativity. I really liked the first two seasons, but I can understand the reasons as to why fans were lukewarm towards them. The writing, pacing, comedy, editing, action, direction, animation, depth, pretty much everything has noticeably improved in season 3. Sailor Moon fans who wrote off Sailor Moon Crystal without having watched the Death Busters story arc have no idea what they're missing. This is pretty damn incredible.

edit: More episodes in, and Chibiusa isn't anywhere as annoying as she was in the previous season. She's still irritating at times, but for the most part, she's been tolerable.

Randorama · Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 3053

Mega Zone 23 reboot in the works.

The plot should be based on the first part (I do not remember there being more than 1 part...) and should be 'close to the original vision'.

I wonder how they will keep the (indirect) social commentary sub-text, to be fair.

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