For those who missed it, TonK's scam of the century

[Ed Oscuro]

Wow, I'm surprised a bunch of people gave you shit for an informational thread. Those people should be ashamed.

Logic dictates the nature of the thread - information on reprinted goods - would potentially have hurt the values of all the kits he was 'sitting on' (his words), and therefore was not cool for broadcast. That's what I figured at the time, anyway.

Not TonK, the other people who were going on about what a shame it was to worry about such things, berating you for sharing the information, etc.

I'm wondering if this will finally make NG collectors w/ far too much disposable income stop throwing so much caution to the wind.

No chance.

Speaking as the greedy owner of a good ol' bootleg M92 board speaking who should've thought much harder before bidding...I'm only out $110 at worst though.

[drauch]

For your entertainment, here's the thread I called Tonk out on over price manipulating in the TS. It was meant to be this useful thread but it got all messed up so I had to relocate it.

Wow, I'm surprised a bunch of people gave you shit for an informational thread. Those people should be ashamed.

You were absolutely right about TonK; even before this latest crap it was clear that he wasn't out there for the community. It looks even more sinister with hindsight, though. I'm not used to seeing people argue like that while quite possibly not believing any of it (I do reserve the right to believe in man's ability to delude himself, though).

That's what I don't understand about hobbyist. Okay to collect one thing and be meticulous about it; not okay to do it with another thing.

[Ed Oscuro]

That's what I don't understand about hobbyist. Okay to collect one thing and be meticulous about it; not okay to do it with another thing.

In a word: Hypocrisy.

[Skykid]

Logic dictates the nature of the thread - information on reprinted goods - would potentially have hurt the values of all the kits he was 'sitting on' (his words), and therefore was not cool for broadcast. That's what I figured at the time, anyway.

Not TonK, the other people who were going on about what a shame it was to worry about such things, berating you for sharing the information, etc.

Well, it was really this that just smacked of "oh shit don't talk about reprinted art, shut it down now!"

I think this is a bad idea and needs abandoned completely.

And then his flagrant hypocrisy got too much for me, so I gave him both barrels.

Also, if you follow that thread and read only his responses, he seems seriously cut up/butthurt/tearful over the price of a rolled Progear poster that sold for $400 (GP's I think). He seems to reference it in every post for the first couple of pages.

[GaijinPunch]

Also, if you follow that thread and read only his responses, he seems seriously cut up/butthurt/tearful over the price of a rolled Progear poster that sold for $400 (GP's I think). He seems to reference it in every post for the first couple of pages.

Really? Don't remember that. Funny, considering the same one went for fucking 66,000 on YJ. The Yen was a bit weaker then, but not that week. It was closer to 100. Wonder how he would've handled the handful of Metal Slug 2 posters on Yahoo.

Hopefully the community has learned a few things over the years. Basically, no single person really knows what the going rates of this stuff is unless they look at a few places and gather data. Yahoo Japan is probably the best price guide out there as it has more of the stuff we're after readily available. At least for Japanese products, which is where most of the inquiries were coming from.

Even so, it only takes two people in the heat of the moment to jack something up to astronomical levels. A second one will often sell for WAY less. The 300,000 yen Canon Dancer is a prime example... the subsequent 250,000 yen one was there for months.

These are just fancy ways of saying, "something is worth what someone will pay". Ultimately, if you have a problem with a price, don't pay it. That's all you can do.

[Skykid]

Also, if you follow that thread and read only his responses, he seems seriously cut up/butthurt/tearful over the price of a rolled Progear poster that sold for $400 (GP's I think). He seems to reference it in every post for the first couple of pages.

Really? Don't remember that. Funny, considering the same one went for fucking 66,000 on YJ.

Just check the linked thread, it's all there. Not sure why he was so sore over that particular poster/price point.

[undamned]

Yahoo Japan is probably the best price guide out there as it has more of the stuff we're after readily available. At least for Japanese products, which is where most of the inquiries were coming from.
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These are just fancy ways of saying, "something is worth what someone will pay".

This. Ebay's drop dead auction ending time is silly after seeing the way Yahoo does it (like a real auction where continuous bidding keeps the auction alive). I still lol when people are trying to snipe me on YAJ.
-ud

[GaijinPunch]

Just check the linked thread, it's all there. Not sure why he was so sore over that particular poster/price point.

Direct link please?

[Skykid]

Direct link please?

For your entertainment, here's the thread I called Tonk out on over price manipulating in the TS.

Almost every post he makes from the first page onward.

[Tokyo-J]

And now Shawn from the Neostore is peddling the same Warez for DavidG

http://www.neostore.com/Multigame-161-i ... S-p/21.htm

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

$600 for a shady bootleg and $759 for Treasure of the Caribbean. Complete frigging idiots.

[Udderdude]

Screencapping this for future reference D:

[sgtbski]

to give some credit to shawn, i believe the deal to carry davidg's convertors and multigame aes carts was to refund the dude tonk/davidg ripped off.

[Skykid]

to give some credit to shawn, i believe the deal to carry davidg's convertors and multigame aes carts was to refund the dude tonk/davidg ripped off.

At $600 a pop, that refund will be a long time coming. You can get multigame MVS boots for about $60. AES or not, it's basically the same thing.

[Acid King]

Scammers suck, but it's insane to think that people actually fell for it. The back story about the "discovery" of the carts is just implausibly bad, I've received million dollar offers from my long lost Nigerian half-twin that were more legitimate sounding. It's pretty mindblowing that someone would shell out tens of thousands of dollars for one, especially considering how rampant bootleg Neo Geo stuff is.

[GaijinPunch]

Direct link please?

For your entertainment, here's the thread I called Tonk out on over price manipulating in the TS.

Almost every post he makes from the first page onward.

In the "What's it Worth" thread?

[Skykid]

In the "What's it Worth" thread?

Dude...

It's here man, here! Click the text, takes you to thread:

here's the thread

[Strider77]

This should be made into a lifetime movie...

[antron]

Scammers suck, but it's insane to think that people actually fell for it. The back story about the "discovery" of the carts is just implausibly bad, I've received million dollar offers from my long lost Nigerian half-twin that were more legitimate sounding. It's pretty mindblowing that someone would shell out tens of thousands of dollars for one, especially considering how rampant bootleg Neo Geo stuff is.

Nigerian scam emails are actually written to give themselves away. This weeds out all but the most gullible readers.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

to give some credit to shawn, i believe the deal to carry davidg's convertors and multigame aes carts was to refund the dude tonk/davidg ripped off.

So help him profit more and clean up his rep in the process? It's a win win. What does TonK get?

[Specineff]

It always struck me as odd that these carts came from some "Ex-SNK Employee" who couldn't be identified. But I bet anyone who tried to reasonably say anything contrary to the popular belief there would have been crucified in minutes.

[drauch]

"Help this jackass who spent 30,000 on a cart that isn't even known to exist by buying overpriced bootlegs." Humanitarian of the year award.

[brentsg]

to give some credit to shawn, i believe the deal to carry davidg's convertors and multigame aes carts was to refund the dude tonk/davidg ripped off.

So help him profit more and clean up his rep in the process? It's a win win. What does TonK get?

The only reason Shawn made a rare forum appearance was to get his piece. The only reason he gave a shit about the whole thing was for money, which is par for the course.

[BIL]

$759 for Treasure of the Caribbean. Complete frigging idiots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqARdEUAeng

"Looks like a shit version of puyo puyo."

"Its unique, so worth to have."



My trusty $10 copy of MD Puyo Puyo is now even more loveable. This shit is hilarious.

[Raytrace]

ok I really dunno wtf this is all about but it seems intriguing, can someone simplify/synopsise it for my stupid brain?

[SuperPang]

There's a thread about it here http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43571

[Raytrace]

haha no need to be coy, I did try reading it from the start, but I honestly still didn't really understand it, something about a guy pretending or artifically making a NeoGeo cart seem ultra valuable or something?

[Acid King]

A couple of US copies of Aero Fighters 3, which was never released as an AES game in the states, were "discovered" by "an ex-SNK employee" then sold for thousands on the NeoGeo forum. Of course, they turn out to be bootlegs and intertube shitstorm ensues.

[Raytrace]

A couple of US copies of Aero Fighters 3, which was never released as an AES game in the states, were "discovered" by "an ex-SNK employee" then sold for thousands on the NeoGeo forum. Of course, they turn out to be bootlegs and intertube shitstorm ensues.

ah I see thanks, and he was a seller that a lot of guys one here knew of before, I take it?

[Acid King]

A couple of US copies of Aero Fighters 3, which was never released as an AES game in the states, were "discovered" by "an ex-SNK employee" then sold for thousands on the NeoGeo forum. Of course, they turn out to be bootlegs and intertube shitstorm ensues.

ah I see thanks, and he was a seller that a lot of guys one here knew of before, I take it?

Yeah, he was all over the trading station. He had over a thousand posts here and 70% were in the trading forum.