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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:17 am 


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Came across this comic today. I think it's fitting giving all of the Breaking Bad love we have here. So true too.

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almost through watching the 3rd season of Babylon 5. This really plays out to be like one long novel and I'm seeing why my dad likes this so much. also, really wish the actors got to do more commentary on episodes. the one episode they did just had me realizing why the show was so good. they just fit each other like pieces to a puzzle. plus they are quite darn funny and can make you forget at times you're watching a very serious episode.
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Been watching Sliders and really enjoying it. Now I'm in season 3 and dark times are about. The show just got absolutely awful.
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Came across this comic today. I think it's fitting giving all of the Breaking Bad love we have here. So true too.

http://www.pidjin.net/2012/08/01/the-future-is-crystal/


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Only episode 5 of Breaking Bad, but has quickly become one of the best pieces of television I've seen. The whole thing is incredibly uncomfortable and heavily ironic, but there are parts--hell, just finished watching a part where Walter explains why he doesn't want to get Chemo, and it is one of the best acted bits of television I've seen.


It only gets better. Fucking crazy the quality of writing/acting/producing that goes into that show. Each production is better than just about any movie made in the last 10 years.
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It only gets better. Fucking crazy the quality of writing/acting/producing that goes into that show. Each production is better than just about any movie made in the last 10 years.


This is my feeling on it. People keep saying that all the talent has gone to television but for whatever reason, I haven't actually enjoyed those big name shows (Mad Man was putting me to sleep, never gave a shit about the Sopranos, etc.), but this one struck home.

Finished season 1 last night and can see Walter and Jesse and only gonna be getting themselves in more trouble :)
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Been watching Sliders and really enjoying it. Now I'm in season 3 and dark times are about. The show just got absolutely awful.

Yeah, sorry about that. It was a great show for the first season or two, then...all kinds of awful shit happened. I forget how many seasons there are, but it gets worse, much worse. I don't want to spoil it, but you probably ought to stop now before the later seasons ruin any feelings you might have left for the show.


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Been watching Sliders and really enjoying it. Now I'm in season 3 and dark times are about. The show just got absolutely awful.

Yeah, sorry about that. It was a great show for the first season or two, then...all kinds of awful shit happened. I forget how many seasons there are, but it gets worse, much worse. I don't want to spoil it, but you probably ought to stop now before the later seasons ruin any feelings you might have left for the show.


Once they tried to tie it into one continuous storyline about "sliding" CroMags rather than individual episodes of alternate realities, that's when it jumped the shark and became a pain to watch.


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I dig the uncomfortable nature of Breaking Bad. I find that I have to be in the right mood to watch it because of that, but it's incredible. I've even found myself putting off an episode because of the tension that's been established with some of their crazy predicaments.
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Been watching Sliders and really enjoying it. Now I'm in season 3 and dark times are about. The show just got absolutely awful.

Yeah, sorry about that. It was a great show for the first season or two, then...all kinds of awful shit happened. I forget how many seasons there are, but it gets worse, much worse. I don't want to spoil it, but you probably ought to stop now before the later seasons ruin any feelings you might have left for the show.


Once they tried to tie it into one continuous storyline about "sliding" CroMags rather than individual episodes of alternate realities, that's when it jumped the shark and became a pain to watch.

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I dig the uncomfortable nature of Breaking Bad. I find that I have to be in the right mood to watch it because of that, but it's incredible. I've even found myself putting off an episode because of the tension that's been established with some of their crazy predicaments.


Oh, dude. I couldn't sleep well after I watched each episode starting w/ Season 3. I won't give away any spoilers, but to me the gem of the show is the odd-couple nature of Jesse & Walter. They are from two different worlds, and hate each other at times, but have this amazing level of trust.
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As soon as a new episode airs and some innocent person appear on screen, In my mind I go, "hell, this sweet person is gonna get fucked up".
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Been watching Sliders and really enjoying it. Now I'm in season 3 and dark times are about. The show just got absolutely awful.

Yeah, sorry about that. It was a great show for the first season or two, then...all kinds of awful shit happened. I forget how many seasons there are, but it gets worse, much worse. I don't want to spoil it, but you probably ought to stop now before the later seasons ruin any feelings you might have left for the show.


Once they tried to tie it into one continuous storyline about "sliding" CroMags rather than individual episodes of alternate realities, that's when it jumped the shark and became a pain to watch.

I stopped watching long before that...when I found out about that storyline, I found it sickening. Poor Wade...


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Once they tried to tie it into one continuous storyline about "sliding" CroMags rather than individual episodes of alternate realities, that's when it jumped the shark and became a pain to watch.

I stopped watching long before that...when I found out about that storyline, I found it sickening. Poor Wade...


I've actually already seen most of the series. I actually watched it when it first aired. I'd just forgotten how absolutely shit it got.
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Yeah, sorry about that. It was a great show for the first season or two, then...all kinds of awful shit happened. I forget how many seasons there are, but it gets worse, much worse. I don't want to spoil it, but you probably ought to stop now before the later seasons ruin any feelings you might have left for the show.


Once they tried to tie it into one continuous storyline about "sliding" CroMags rather than individual episodes of alternate realities, that's when it jumped the shark and became a pain to watch.

I stopped watching long before that...when I found out about that storyline, I found it sickening. Poor Wade...


I was watching the series up to the point where the Colonel guy was preparing a mass evacuation. After that, I watched it sporadically and it was nothing like the first two seasons. There was just no sense of adventure anymore. I liked the notion of alternate earths; the whole "what if...?" theme it had going. I bet it must've been a bitch for the writers to come up with a creative storyline and a resolution for every episode. The whole CroMag thing made it way easier to concentrate on one plot element they can write around. However, this was a stupid and simplistic plot element, and it showed.


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I wasn't too impressed with it at first. Especially the first episode, or maybe the first few episodes, it seemed like it was little more than "these guys sure do drink a lot and treat women like crap! P.S. Fashion was different back then." After the first season, I wasn't sure if I even wanted to keep watching. I kept watching, and I liked the following seasons more... not sure if they're actually better or if it just took time to grow on me.


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I've been watching MLP with girlfriend, Mom, and sister. I actually enjoy it although I don't think its a children's masterpiece. About halfway through season 1 now. I thought the art style was kind of "eh" in still shots, but the dynamic use of color to substitute for the lack of dynamic shading actually looks pretty nice in motion.

Last night I saw the first episode I decidedly did not like, though: Feeling Pinkie Keen. I was pretty shocked by the writing and the anti-intellectual message. The protestations of Lauren Faust, if they're to be believed, don't really surprise me: that kind of confusion about the value of "belief" vs. reason are still all-too-common. Sad to see such a bud-nipping message delivered to children though. EDIT: nice to see its the work of an isolated writer, Dave Polsky. His other writing credentials suggest stupidity. The whole episode is probably due to some argument he got into with a smarter friend or relative.

I've also been watching Breaking Bad and am current with season 5 now. In a nutshell, I think its accomplished formal qualities (acting, directing, etc) prevent people from thinking critically about the show. And the fact that smaller, interstitial moments are so well observed by the actors gives an undeserved sheen of truth to the rest of the proceedings. But more on that later.
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I've been watching MLP with girlfriend, Mom, and sister. I actually enjoy it although I don't think its a children's masterpiece. About halfway through season 1 now. I thought the art style was kind of "eh" in still shots, but the dynamic use of color to substitute for the lack of dynamic shading actually looks pretty nice in motion.

Last night I saw the first episode I decidedly did not like, though: Feeling Pinkie Keen. I was pretty shocked by the writing and the anti-intellectual message. The protestations of Lauren Faust, if they're to be believed, don't really surprise me: that kind of confusion about the value of "belief" vs. reason are still all-too-common. Sad to see such a bud-nipping message delivered to children though. EDIT: nice to see its the work of an isolated writer, Dave Polsky. His other writing credentials suggest stupidity. The whole episode is probably due to some argument he got into with a smarter friend or relative.


I think the point of the episode was less about "belief vs. reason" and more about not automatically discrediting something because you can't explain it. After all how many times through human history have we observed a verifiable fact before the science existed to explain it. Though the entire concept sounds ludicrous in a world where there is literally magic. Either way it is a bit fo a weak episode story wise and relies more on slapstick then plot for entertainment.

The animation gets a lot better in the second season, so when you make it there you should enjoy it a little more.

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I'm actually sat in a Tim horton's at the moment, just so I can get free wifi with which to download Sunday's episode. Being on vacation is nice, but you miss out on some good things.
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I think the point of the episode was less about "belief vs. reason" and more about not automatically discrediting something because you can't explain it. After all how many times through human history have we observed a verifiable fact before the science existed to explain it. Though the entire concept sounds ludicrous in a world where there is literally magic. Either way it is a bit fo a weak episode story wise and relies more on slapstick then plot for entertainment.

The animation gets a lot better in the second season, so when you make it there you should enjoy it a little more.


Hmmm. I respect your attempt to see a more benign lesson here, but I still disagree. I don't think the characters come to those conclusions either. Twilight is (literally) brow-beaten into accepting the irrational--I saw no compromise with her. They even use a word children will be familiar with from school science experiments, "observation," and show how its somehow an incomplete or lacking way to approach new knowledge.

Though I agree that its all kind of wonky given the magic of the world... in a way, thats why it stands out all the more to me as the writer's personal axe to grind. It was totally possible for the episode to present a scenario where rationalism/empiricism admit that some things are not yet known and their present mystery can still be enjoyed all the same; but that's not what the writer wrote. Even if he intended differently (perhaps along lines you suggest) what he presented was very backwards, almost insidiously so for children. That shit matters.

Looking forward to season 2. :wink:
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Though I agree that its all kind of wonky given the magic of the world... in a way, thats why it stands out all the more to me as the writer's personal axe to grind. It was totally possible for the episode to present a scenario where rationalism/empiricism admit that some things are not yet known and their present mystery can still be enjoyed all the same; but that's not what the writer wrote. Even if he intended differently (perhaps along lines you suggest) what he presented was very backwards, almost insidiously so for children. That shit matters.

Looking forward to season 2. :wink:


Part of the problem with season one is the requirement that all episodes must have a clear, obvious moral lesson. This is due to the stupid EL rating that The Hub wanted to the show to be branded with. This was removed for the second season, opening up the writing staff's options. There's still pretty blatant moralizing and educating, but it's executed better. Freedom is generally a good thing for TV writers. Hopefully you won't find more episodes that tweak you like Feeling Pinkie Keen did.

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Karl Popper would like to have a word with you about disconfirmation!

And then a lot of people have wanted to respond to Popper about trying to base science on disconfirmation - obviously it causes problems because things don't become "positively" known (unless you're like me and are OK with probabilities for everything).

By the way:

Back when I left off with TekWar, I was about to write "man, I am getting so sick of these virtual Tek sex fantasies!" Except in this second episode's case, the scumbag is some former general imagining he's the new Peron or something, and gets his neck snapped within the minute. Almost satisfying.

After that is a trip to Jonas your friendly black-market firearms dealer - take note, the racks of large, dangerous-looking (and cheap plastic) weapons (or fizzy toys...this show's portrayal of futuristic weapon fire is less compelling than star trek; it's more like throwing sparklers or air blasts at the bad guy) are less bad than those scary "concealable shockers" being used against Hero Protagonist Dude at the beginning of the episode, weeks ago. Concealable shockers are basically those shocking hand grip pranks they used to sell in comic books back in the '40s, and look about as dangerous. (Maybe I shouldn't remind us that the episode began in a cigarette speakeasy.) Also, Jonas loves to speak about himself in the third person. Jonas hates cops. Jonas probably could appreciate me sitting here typing out this episode guide that nobody's reading, too!

I was feeling pretty morose about the show, and then they decide to show us Ms. Dutton's old war vet pal, a man with a mentality and vocabulary based on somebody's idea of the mentally retarded. Very painful to watch. This guy is portrayed as a fresh faced kid who is really thankful that the government gave him a new leg. He spends his time with a sack about his waist because he has to pick up all the leaves. Obviously, the actor is a completely unscarred young man.

So there we are - halfway (maybe) into the second episode and I'm already dangerously close to losing my sanity, even after taking a breather from it for two weeks.

I also have come to another shocking conclusion. The PC game (based on the Duke Nukem 3D engine) is, quality-wise, comparable to "other" PC games of the era in roughly the way that TekWar is comparable to other highly esteemed television shows of its era, such as the also-in-Vancouver vampire cop show Forever Knight, or possibly Space Precinct. I'm betting that SeaQuest DSV ranks a few perceptible notches higher. Or the worst episode of the Gummi Bears, or the worst MLP episode. I don't know. Who looks at this shit and says "my name is William Shatner, and even though this is ghostwritten sloppily as fuck, I am going to put my name on it because I want even this, too. Next will come world domination." Well, OK, I can understand that, but what about all the rest of the drones? Do you think that even the immediate heads of the two production companies, and the two original broadcasting networks (CTV in Canada, and SciFi in the USA) retired to their comfiest chairs to watch the shows, knock back some beers and high-five each other at the brilliant, lifelike emotional drama and the gripping portrayal of a futuristic dystopia? Man, and I thought Doctor Who and Stargate were poor series.


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Part of the problem with season one is the requirement that all episodes must have a clear, obvious moral lesson. This is due to the stupid EL rating that The Hub wanted to the show to be branded with. This was removed for the second season, opening up the writing staff's options. There's still pretty blatant moralizing and educating, but it's executed better. Freedom is generally a good thing for TV writers. Hopefully you won't find more episodes that tweak you like Feeling Pinkie Keen did.


Moralizing is bad to the extent the moral is bad or simplistic, but being a kids show, I think its done a pretty good job there. I actually think the heart-on-sleeve positivity is part of what makes this show popular and appealing. It isn't particularly sophisticated, but themes of harmony and a certain progressive spirit (heavily filtered for children and by its status as a mainstream tv show, of course) come through. Contrast that with all the media out there that sighs "nothing can be known," focuses entirely on narrow identity issues, or draws purely negative inferences from the idea of relativity. This show doesn't get too radical or anything, but it has a gentle humanity to it that I think people are responding to, memeness notwithstanding.

I've since finished Season 1 and have started Season 2. Indeed, "Feeling Pinkie Keen" was pretty much an isolated episode in terms of really negative writing. Cutie Mark Chronicles and Sonic Rainboom are my two favorite episodes so far. Favorite pony... hmmm... probably Pinkie Pie, but I like them all.
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Moralizing is bad to the extent the moral is bad or simplistic, but being a kids show, I think its done a pretty good job there. I actually think the heart-on-sleeve positivity is part of what makes this show popular and appealing. It isn't particularly sophisticated, but themes of harmony and a certain progressive spirit (heavily filtered for children and by its status as a mainstream tv show, of course) come through. Contrast that with all the media out there that sighs "nothing can be known," focuses entirely on narrow identity issues, or draws purely negative inferences from the idea of relativity. This show doesn't get too radical or anything, but it has a gentle humanity to it that I think people are responding to, memeness notwithstanding.

I've since finished Season 1 and have started Season 2. Indeed, "Feeling Pinkie Keen" was pretty much an isolated episode in terms of really negative writing. Cutie Mark Chronicles and Sonic Rainboom are my two favorite episodes so far. Favorite pony... hmmm... probably Pinkie Pie, but I like them all.


I'm not criticizing the way morals are handled in the first season, i like those eps a lot, just the they were restrained in terms of story telling by the EI requirement. Morals are still there in season 2, as they should be, there's just more freedom in how they get the point across.

And Pinkie is a good choice, but I'm more of a RaritySweeite Belle fan. :)
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Just finished watching Asylum of the Daleks. Great opening for Series 7. Think Matt Smith is finally growing on me as The Doctor. Plot was good, typical Doctor adventure, but the real surprise was Jenna-Louise Coleman. Great character, brilliantly funny. I think she's going to make a great replacement for Karen Gillian when she leaves the show in episode 5.

Love how Doctor Who is starting up just as Breaking Bad is coming to an end. Any predictions for tomorrow's mid season finale?
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 Post subject: Re: TV you've just watched
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:56 pm 


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Watching Twin Peaks for the first time.

I'm hooked.
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