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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:38 am 


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Fuck him -- it's his own fault. I doubt he cares though.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:23 am 


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Posting my hot GoT take before the next episode.

I was kind of glad that the show changed pace when it moved away from the books since I felt it had got a bit stagnant. I haven't read the books but I imagine the extra plots and characters and omnisicience of the reader made the slower paced plot more rich. But imo as a TV show it was left with not enough room to maneuver and the novelty wore off a bit for me.

But there were still some ace moments - the big battles actually being among my favourites. BoB in particular was not just action packed but horrifying and felt like a real glimpse at the brutality of medieval warfare - much more disturbing to me than yet another scene of Ramsay torturing someone imo. And on the supernatural side, Hardhome was scary and shocking too.

I was still enjoying the show, but since it had already dropped in my estimation from "intricate fantasy sopranos" to "I'm just along for the ride" I was looking forward to seeing where it went.

So although I don't have any particular expectations for the series as a whole, I was really hoping the battle of Winterfell would be a highlight.

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First of all I don't mind that they killed the night king, or even that arya did it. I always thought the supernatural stuff was less interesting than the politics so do what you gotta do I guess. For that reason I'm still interested in seeing where the series goes, so no despair from me. That being said I do think the execution of the episode was a bit of a missed opportunity.

There were also some nice dramatic moments. The opening was the strongest part and the only place I felt that the darkness of the image really added to it - at the start it felt as if the enemy was the night itself and the false hope of the dothraki fire swords getting snuffed out one by one was a very nice touch. So while I could have done without incomprehensible scenes of dragons flapping about, I was with it until the retreat inside.

The problem was that episode did a bad job of explaining the strategies of both sides and the logic of how the battle flowed. Again, this was something previous episodes did fairly well. It's not about whether they used realistic military strategies to fight back a bunch of magical zombies. The problem is that if we don't know how the characters fighting are planning for the battle to go, you don't get as much drama when things don't go according to plan, and you lose what makes the scenes build up to something with real dramatic weight. Instead things just seem to happening for no reason, and they rely on the prospect of important characters being killed off as the only thing that sets the stakes.


But the repetitive scenes of characters being overwhelmed by wights only to rise again ultimately deflated the work of the previous episode. By the middle of the episode I had no idea why all these characters were running around through corridors, where they had come from or where they were going. While Arya's metal gear solid scene in the library was essentially well done, it felt completely unconnected to the rest of the episode. There was a powerful moment in the crypt between Tyrion and Sansa, but aside from that all the action down there was too dark for me to be able to follow. Even the villains were underused, with the night king's generals (fearsome as they were in hardhome) doing literally nothing.

Again, the chaos of the dragon fights ultimately undermined their dramatic weight, with the significance of their presence of the battlefield never being properly established, and their abilities even seeming quite inconsistent. Even as recently as last season they managed to frame the dragons as a game-changers on the field, so the presence of dragons on both sides could have been really interesting. Instead we have dark CGI fights and Jon running back and forth unscathed in front of an enemy that could blow through the castle wall.

Ultimately I think there was a bit of a failure of imagination in making the fight a "hardhome 2.0" zombie rush. It had been done before in the series and while there is technically a difference in scale I don't think they made that feel meaningful enough to justify the repetition. It was ultimately a poorer copy.

The solution, I think, would be to minimize the threat posed by the zombies and focus on their plan to take down not just the Night King but also his generals and his dragon. My theory would be that while the zombies are dangerous for unprepared forces out in the open, for a army equipped with dragon glass defending a fortified position, it should have been relatively trivial to keep them at bay, at least for a certain amount of time. So the problems they face are that the turned dragon can easily punch through their defenses, and that, even there are too many enemies to fight, and they will tire eventually.

Thus the goal of defeating the Walker generals and the dragon would have framed the battle. They could have used Bran's warging abilities to get a preview on how the Night King was organizing his forces and make a strategy to neutralize his dragon, corner his generals and draw him out, with the plan to use Bran as bait only being a last resort. And if in the end the Night King was killed by a dragonglass caltrop left in the garden, that would have been an end much more fitting in with the uncompromising ethos of the show as a whole.

Anyway, the episode wasn't boring, but given the hype and production values it was a bit of a disappointment. Unless it turns out that my old ass monitor was just on the wrong settings, then I take it all back.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 3:29 am 


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How Game of Thrones will end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGtL113AM
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Quantum Leap. Looks fantastic on blu ray, and has the music back in it! Unlike the dvd releases.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:03 pm 


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GoT Season 8 episode 5.

Yikes! There has been a lot of hate piled on this season but apart from episode 2 I think its been pretty good.

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I've got to admit I didn't see any of this coming. Well, I thought maybe Dany could be the mad queen but I never thought they would actually do it. I thought it was a great episode. Some of the writing has been a bit forced, but I don't think they've jumped the shark yet. All the characters behaved in an understandable fashion. Even Tyrion's dumb plan to smuggle Cersei out of the city made sense by the short scene between him and his brother.

The best thing is I don't really see how this plays out. I've managed to avoid all spoilers so far, and as I was never rooting for a particular character I just want it to end well. Please don't go a mawkish or sentimental. No slow plinky plonk piano montage - keep the brutality!


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:43 pm 


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:49 pm 


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Ajora wrote:
How Game of Thrones will end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGtL113AM
This is starting to look optimistic :lol:

more nerdy whinging from me about the new ep:

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I liked it more than the long night because it was in the day and you knew what is happening. Also the horror of human barbarism as witnessed by a horrified Jon was genuinely affecting. But I had a few issues.

Firstly the show has completely failed to establish consistent rules and expectations for how the dragons operate in the battlefield. In isolation I liked what they did here but it felt a bit jarring after the the long night where there were 3 flapping about with relatively little consequence, and the previous episode where the scorpions were more than enough to take them out.

Of course the real issue is the character stuff. Danny's turn into a mass murderer felt completely unjustified. Throughout the whole series she has held people's lives in the balance, but it was always clear that she weighed her choices carefully. They had forshadowed her burning King's Landing, but the context was that she was prepared to go to any lengths to seize the throne, and that if Cersei provoked her she might choose to value her victory more than her future people's lives - in some ways a serious deviation from her previous actions, in other ways not.

What actually happened was shocking for her character but not in a good way. It also robbed us of a true confrontation between her and Cersei - who spent most of the episode as a passive figure. Sadly that wasn't the only lacking final meeting, with Jamie only meeting Cersei at the very end, and Arya and the Hound parting with a simple "thx m8". It seemed as though Arya had already decided that her life was to be about more than just revenge, and part of that was her companionship with the Hound - her abandoning of him to his fate (voluntary as it was) struck a dissonant chord with me almost as much as Danny's self-admission to Arkham Asylum.

Jamie was in and of himself a huge missed opportunity - his words to Brienne needed some explanation, and given all the development he's had over the seasons I was really looking forward to him finally taking everything his character had become back to Cersei in a dramatic, self-defining moment for both of them. Having Euron slip out of the sea for a scrap was completely unnecessary and added nothing to the genuinely intense fight for Jamie's soul.

Clegane bowl was also a bit of a damp squib. With the outcome being made irrelevant by the imminent destruction of the environ, there was no need for Sandor to find any meaning in the fight, having already played his hand before he even found his opponent, it ended up just being a straight forward brawl. The Mountain's invincibility would have been a good metaphor for the ultimate futility of seeking satisfaction in revenge, but they would have had to handle the encounter differently to really make the most of it. I did appreciate making the fight entirely about the Hound's satisfaction on some level, although I thought this was undermined by giving Gregor any agency whatsoever; him disobeying Qyburn and Cersei was another unwelcome shock that thoughtlessly undermined the story on its own terms.

In general the show seems to want to conclude characters' arcs in a "circular" fashion; bringing Jamie and Cersei together, having Danny turn into a "mad queen", perhaps more. I can appreciate a certain amount of this, but for a show whose characters have been on such a long journey, but which is ending on such a helter skelter schedule, it feels to me more like a forced regression of their development - and I'm worried this feeling is going to scupper any sense of a satisfying conclusion for me. Not that I really expected to be satisfied but, y'know, not for that reason.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:20 am 


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I loved the episode immensely, but I can understand the hatred. It's definitely not an episode for everyone.

One thing that I really loved about this episode that I literally haven't heard anyone talk about yet was Emelia Clark's performance. This was by far the best performance of her entire career. That scene where she was speaking with Jon just had so much raw emotion and nuance to it.

Daenerys's heel turn wasn't very surprising to me, but I loved it all the same. Her turn also wasn't as irrational as people are claiming it to be. She always wanted to rule the world with love, but she realized that people would never love her the way they love Jon and she saw the side of Jon that regarded her as a monarch first and a lover second. Throughout the history of Westeros, fear has always been a powerful weapon used by rulers to control the masses. Daenerys knows it's only a matter of time before word gets out about Jon's right to the throne so I can understand why she would want to establish herself as someone not to mess around with. And when you consider how much suffering, loss and betrayal she's experienced on her journey, it made all the more sense to me to see her cast down all previous moral reservations. Ultimately, I thought the shift in Daenerys' personality felt very organic and justified.

I know a lot of us (myself included) were frustrated with Jamie's decision to leave Brienne for Cersei, but I think it worked out very well in the end. I was rooting for Jamie to have his happily ever after with Brienne, but I think it was appropriate seeing him and Cersei die in each others' arms. One of the things that makes Cersei such a compelling villain is that there has always been some measure of goodness in her, though it is very much outweighed by her viciousness. Seeing Cersei's final scene showcasing the side of her where she felt love for both her brother and her unborn child worked nicely to contrast herself with Daenerys being the show's new villain. Cersei has never murdered as many innocent people as Daenerys now has, and that makes Daenerys look all the more tyrannical by comparison.

Arya's parting with Sandor also felt very authentic. I loved the battle between Sandor and Gregor as well.

I suppose the biggest downsides to the past few episodes could largely be pinned on Tyrion. It's a little disheartening to see one of the show's smartest characters get so many things wrong time and time again. It's been ages since Tyrion was depicted as a witty intellectual who could always understand everything that was happening around him. Lately, he's been rather naive.

I love the grim and apocalyptic tone the show has now taken. It really does feel as though this epic series has now finally reached its long-awaited end. I'm pretty pumped for the final episode.
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I think what's done in GoT is the whole "epic" label. Imagine if instead of seeing giant CGI orgiastic battles firsthand, you instead had characters in various council chambers recount the battle results then get to some serious plotting and witty repartee about what the consequences are going to be. All the best scenes of the show happened over a goblet of wine.
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Ah, I just learned something that explains everything.

DnD have been tapped by Disney to make Star Wars movies.

That's why they're rushing the ending and that's why their top priority is huge battle scenes full of explosions over character development.
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Sadly we are nearing the end of Star Trek TnG. With the exception of one or two episodes that were duds the entire series has been good and several of the episodes are exceptional.
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Wow, just wow. Ep. 5 was pure crap. The writer's inability to create even a shadow of sense and emotion is almost painful to watch.
This show will probably (most definitely) go down as THE most wasted potential of any high profile series ever made ...so far.

At.least R. Martin takes notes and scraps everything he had planning that resembles this massacre of creative writing.


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GOT has blown my mind. Can't get my head around most of the decisions.

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The battles don't make any logically sense and the good guys deserve to lose. Throwing Dothraki at the dead was stupid considering the good guys had catapults in ep3. In ep5 nobody turned up with ladders, and even then the golden company sat outside the walls. It just blows my mind. Drogons fire suddenly became much more potent in ep5 to the point where everything com-busted on immediate contact. Although, S7 was just about the same charging into the Lannister army from the front when one dragon breath could have taken the whole lot out in one swoop from the side.

The 7 year weather forecast for Season 8 "Winter is coming" was all wrong. Its a perfectly sun shining day in ep5. Did the dead bring the winter? None of this is explained.

Who has the best magic? Bran or Euron? Euron.. Because he magically appears and even though you have some kind of magic Bran, he hasn't done anything except watch Theon die for absolutely no reason.

As for story arcs. Arya kill list - Nadda, Lord of light - Nadda, The whitewalkers - Nadda. Cersei's killer - Nadda. Varys dick gone missing and the vision/voice as it happened - Nadda.

Dany going mental, ok.. If she started going beserk and then quit about 2 minutes later I could say she had a bad moment. But for 20 mins non stop? Thats bad writing.

When I get a chance I'm going to watch some episodes by the tree at Winterfell to see what Arya jumped off of. I don't recall seeing anything of the height that she arrived from in the area of that tree. Bran was under the tree and the Night King turned around which states that the jump must have come from somewhere else.

Do you remember in s7 when the Ice dragon was pulled out of the water. That was amazing, those chains especially forged by the dead for such an occasion. Gendry would have been proud of it.

Basically s7 and s8 are full of holes, crappy writing, stupid events like people swimming with full armor on. I don't know.. Just imagine if Drogon breathed the fire from S8 against Jaime Lannister scene in S7, the water would have gone, a puddle 60 feet deep.

S7 and S8 have ruined the whole saga for me. I heard there is a petition to remake S8 with over half a million signatures on it. Not that it will happen.


Oh well! Sunday is coming...
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GoT finale:

FAAAAAAAAAART!
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Mischief Maker wrote:
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FAAAAAAAAAART!


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Bran? I could happily have watch the whole of GoT without that character and story. Fuck boring. What a mess.

Should've ended with John killing Danny then reluctantly sitting on the throne. All those other characters from the north turning up was awful. Overall I liked this season but this episode was pants after the first 20 minutes. Very poor. At least John gave Ghost a stroke. That was the highlight.
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GoT Finale

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Gonna play devil's advocate: I've never seen GoT as a show that was meant to satisfy it's viewer. Perhaps the opposite. If anything, it had been doing far too much of that the last 2 (or even 3) seasons. Watching the first 3 seasons, if I knew the story was going to end in King's Landing I would not have shit my pants of Cersei or some other asshole character won, at least partially. But w/ the last few, things started coming together in a rather forced fashion. My biggest complaint is that too many loose ends were tied up way too nicely. A little mystery never killed anyone.

Did I think it was amazing? No. I was pretty underwhelmed in a lot of ways, but TBH, this is a return to form, even if you don't dig it. The last episode of most seasons has been about setup for what's to come, and it was never guaranteed to be anything more than some type of boring chess move. Everyone and their dogs sister thought Jon was gonna reluctantly sit on the throne and brood at every challenge cumming his way. I'm thankful they took another approach, if nothing else than to piss of entitled fans that apparently have no idea who David Lynch is.

What would my dream ending be?
Jon Kill Denaerys
Jon ceremonially executed (probably by Grey Worm), after Drogon tried to burn him alive but failed due to his heritage
Anything w/ Yara/Asha other than what they did
Arya - riding into the sunset was fine, but killed someone first
Queen: Lady Stoneheart whom we never got

Interesting to see how the books will turn out... assuming he actually fucking writes them.

Undeniable high points: the imagery they did w/ Drogon. Cinematic.


I guess in short...
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Nobody really got all that happy of an ending. Maybe nobody is rotting away in a cell, but Jon is more or less banished from what was his family. Tyrion very bluntly did not want to be hand, nor Bran king. Sansa, FWIW, is probably the only one fulfilling what her parents would have wanted of her. I'm sure Arya is happy with what she's doing, but not sure her fans are.

I guess we'll find out in a year what the staff/cast thinks after the ashes settle.
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GoT talk continues in secret:

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The first part of the ep was actually pretty good: Tyrion and the gang sifting through the ashes, him grieving over his siblings, and Dany's fashy rally (a highlight with the obvious caveat that her journey to get to this point wasn't.... entirely satisfactory) and Jon killing Dany all worked good.

After this point it seemed like the story was done and it all felt a bit cheap. There were some nice moments, some sentimentality and some fan service, some good, mostly not bad, so OK. Crowning Bran kind of threw me because I had assumed that he had all the interest in humanity of the crusty old weirdo living a cave hundreds of miles from civilization from whom he obtained his powers. But it turns out his plan was to be king all along??

You know what, at this point, that's fine. It's done, we're free :)

I did want Drogon to do a fire meow at Jon, though. Not just for the nudity, but, y'know, it's the last ep >__>


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Well I feel numb after that.

I'll miss GoT. I'll never understand what made them rush the final season so much.
Didn't mind how things turned out.

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Lets just say ever since Ocarina of Time I've been desensitised to heroes not getting their reward. Link shoulda got that pussy man, not sent back to childhood. :lol:

Brienne's moment where she sets the record straight about Jaime, I found quite touching tbh.
I think moments like that are for fans with long memories, no one else I spoke to remembered Joffrey taunting his 'uncle' about the lack of deeds/greatness recorded in the Kingsguard's book. Probs cause that was what, season 3?

The worst thing about all of it was Denaerys. The desert wandering/mereen saga was my least favourite storyline all along.
Her slow descent into tyranny would've been good. But we didn't get that.

Her end was.. eh.
Her and Jon were never believable as lovers either.


And now i'm doing exactly what I didn't want to do when this season began. I don't wanna be another fucking genius armchair critic who creates fuck all himself. Welp, here we are.
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GoT didn't need to turn into a series of giant battle scenes. How many wars were fought in the early seasons offscreen and you still had riveting scenes of characters talking about the consequences. Now it's the opposite, they showed the battle in all its gory exhausting detail, often unintentionally demonstrating plot armor in action, and afterward nobody really has much to say.

Here's my dream ending:

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Retcon Season 7 and 8 out of existence. Early in Season 7 Dany and her dragons easily take King's Landing by flying straight to the red keep and intentionally not harming innocents. Cersei and Jamie manage to escape but Dany has the iron throne. She finds that taking the throne is much easier than holding it, the north remains firmly in revolt against her rule, the southern nobles use Cersei's crimes to implicate the dangers of any female ruler, and the peasantry at large fears and resents the presence and occasional depredations of her Dothraki and Dragons. The only word Dany gets by raven from the north is warnings about the coming army of the dead, but Jon is convinced by his sisters not to repeat Ned's mistake of going south and DEFINITELY not to meet with a Targarian.

Meanwhile in the north, the army of the dead marches up to the wall and stops. They make no attempt to attack the wall, but they also prevent any of the night's watch from scouting what's going on beyond the wall. Bran does not turn into the Buddha, he retains his personality, but like the old raven warned, he's not ready and can't fully control his powers and he's constantly slipping in and out of flashbacks. What warging he is able to do beyond the wall reveals that there are no white walkers among the stationary army of the dead. Presumably they're doing something to bring the wall down and someone suggests maybe Bran could go to the past and see how the wall was made to learn of any weaknesses the Night King may try to exploit. So Bran goes fishing in the past and we're given visions of the original war and the construction of the wall.

Tyrion and Varys come up with a brilliant plan to bring the north back into the fold that doesn't involve Dany going nuclear. Tyrion remarks that the betrayal and killing of Ned Stark was what set the north to rebel, maybe by bringing justice to one of the betrayers they can cool the tensions between the two sides. They decide Littlefinger will be the one they bring down, but they need proof. A spy vs. spy battle in the shadows takes place between Varys and Littlefinger. Olenna gets wind of the plot and knows if Littlefinger is captured he can implicate her in the assassination of Joffrey so she attempts to thwart them. But in the end Varys is successful and Littlefinger is captured and brought to the capitol. Littlefinger is put on trial and sentenced to death but he fingers Olenna as his accomplice in the murder of Joffrey. The southern nobility, already in a fervor over "female rulers" screams for Olenna's blood so Dany decides to compromise and imprison Olenna pending an investigation whether there is any proof beyond the word of Littlefinger. She sends ravens to every noble in the north telling of the trial and conviction of Littlefinger in the betrayal of Ned Stark and the next day has the unsullied crucify Littlefinger in public like she did to the masters of Mereen. The Westerossi nobles are horrified.

Jon Snow, upon learning of his father's death being avenged, is pushed over the edge and agrees to meet with Dany. But the idiot prince Arryn, who loved Littlefinger like a father, is outraged and when learning that Jon Snow is going to make diplomatic overtures to Dany, pulls the support of his Knights of the Vale and proceeds to march on King's Landing. Back at the Red Keep, Dany and Missandei are celebrating the diplomatic victory with the north and Missandei's budding romance with Grey Worm over glasses of wine. Missandei takes the first sip, then begins to choke and dies horribly of poison in front of Dany and Grey Worm. That night Ser Jorah is attacked by a crowd in the street and overwhelmed like Ser Barristen Selmy was in Mereen, and Dany responds like she did in Mereen by gathering the Westerossi nobles and feeding one of them to her dragons. Back in high garden, the Tyrell retainers are approached in secret by Jaime and Cersei who tell them that Dany is on a noble-killing spree and she has their lady Olenna in prison, how long will it be before the last of the Tyrells is killed horribly, so an alliance is formed.

Meanwhile Bran has finally discovered the memories of his namesake Bran the Builder and sees him and his engineers planning the wall, with one of the engineers asking if they should reinforce the well around the cornerstone that maintains the magic that repels the dead. Bran the builder responds that if the Night King knew that spot was important, it would only be a matter of time before he tore it down, better to keep the spot secret and looking identical to the rest of the wall. No sooner has he heard this than Bran notices his breath is condensating, he looks down and sees white fingers gripping his arm on the mark, then looks up in horror to see the Night King is standing right next to him, observing the whole scene as well. Bran snaps out of his trance and at that exact moment the dead army that had been standing motionless for weeks suddenly turns and makes for the weak spot. They break the magic of the wall then overwhelm the defenses and Castle Black is abandoned. The dead now have access to the south. Back in King's landing, Dany is in the map room and notices snow begins falling like in her dream earlier.

Anyway this is getting way too long, suffice to say in season 8 the Night King would not be neatly wrapped up in a single episode siege of Winterfell, rather he would be constantly on the move, ravaging castles and villages on the way, but still clearly searching for something. Dany would grow increasingly paranoid of who in Westeros is trying to assassinate her and as Varys and Tyrion are not able to give solid leads, increasingly leans back on violence and destruction. Basically the whole continent is in a multi-side civil war until the Night King takes king's landing, which Dany and her dragons are unable to stop on their own. And thus bitter enemies are forced to stand shoulder-to-shoulder in the end if they have any chance to stop the Night King.

So much better than, "Road trip, dudes! We're gonna grab us a skeleton to show to Cersei so she leaves us alone for our totally epic CGI battle scene!"



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D&D got a contract with Disney to start making Star Wars movies. Probably another reason why they brushed aside the court intrigue in favor of EPIC BATTLE SCENES! It was resume-padding.
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I want to want to say something about the series finale, but I don't feel much beyond plain indifference. In hindsight, I can now more clearly see all of the problems that plagued season 8, and while I was generally entertained by it, it still feels very rushed, and the finale offered little emotional satisfaction. I still stand by the decision to turn Daenerys into a villain (I think Emelia Clarke's performance noticeably improved once she fully let loose), but this was hampered by the fact that mad queen Daenerys was killed almost as soon as she appeared.
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I want to want to say something about the series finale, but I don't feel much beyond plain indifference.

Yeah. Man, this is pretty much where I am at sadly. I suppose I will always treasure the time I had with the show throughout all of its ups & downs, but I just find myself feeling pretty indifferent here at the end. Twitter is a mess, but I did Like this single tweet on the subject from my man Jason Schreier.


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Twitter is a mess, but I did Like this single tweet on the subject from my man Jason Schreier.


I never stopped talking about it... but have only one fucking person among quite a few friends on multiple continents who watches it. :?
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Better Call Saul is criminally underrated.


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Better Call Saul is criminally underrated.


Maybe better that. Look on the bright side - we won't hear people bitch about the finale!
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Twitter is always a mess, just like reddit.

As for BCS, it is? I thought it was GREAT but I really need to catch up on it. I will admit I don't pay attention to w/e everyone is talking about on twitter so perhaps it is underrated. I was actually liking it more than BB, but we will see if that holds.


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I just don't understand how you can sneeringly refer to people paying subscription fees for a premium television channel as "entitled." I mean HBO and by extension their employees D&D kinda are on the hook to satisfy their customer base. And "unsatisfying" is not the same thing as "surprising."

I mean D&D finishing up GoT in a slapdash manner so they can move on to that Disney cash is a smart move on their parts career-wise. The Hollywood machine strangling art doesn't always happen from the top down.

But you're gonna have a hell of a time convincing me that disappointment over the rushed GoT ending is a case of, "Too many notes, dear Mozart!"
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I doubt everyone that is whining paid for a subscription. But I guess that's neither here nor there. I pay for a lot of streaming shows... a lot of it isn't great. (A lot is total crap). I try to move on to the next thing.

And I'm sure there were probably more than a few factors that Weiss and Benioff going to Star wars. TV shows are notably more expensive as every year goes on. They probably figured one last bigger season split in two was all they could get funding for. That seems to be the case w/ most big shows lately.
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