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 Post subject: Re: TV you've just watched
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:40 am 


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I had to pause a few times.

That Alexandra Daddario scene amarite fellas?


Bless her heart. I actually watched it the first time around w/ my girlfriend at the time. Both of them verbally announced that her tits were huge. And they were right.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:46 am 


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Narcos Mexico (Netflix)

The shark has been jumped.

I still think the first season of Narcos was some of the best TV put out by Netflix, owing to the insanity of Pablo Escobar's true story. Season 3 was pretty weak because in real life the Cali cartel for the most part kept their heads down, (compared to Escobar) and they put in a bunch of filler subplots that all went nowhere to no lasting effect, but the leads were still convincing actors. But Narcos Mexico is not only bad, it spoils the earlier seasons in retrospect by laying the weaknesses of the series in clear relief.

The number one thing that sinks Narcos Mexico is Michael Peña horribly miscast as the DEA agent lead. Boyd Holbrook and Pedro Pascal could convincingly come across as driven badasses who could stare down murderous cartel psychos. Michael Peña is a doughy goofball best suited for romantic comedies and/or being the comic relief. I do not buy him as a driven ex-marine cop-on-the-edge, and every scene he's in took me completely out of the story.

What's worse, his acting made it clear just how many cobweb-choked cop movie cliches the series has been running with all this time. I remember reading in an article that the real-life wife of Agent Steve Murphy was upset they...

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...made her give her husband the whole "you have to choose between your job and your family!" speech then return to the US without him. The real life Connie Murphy said she would have never abandoned her husband like that.


Well get ready for that cliche in Narcos Mexico, delivered multiple times by multiple naggy wives. Get ready for Michael Peña in his soft, high-pitched voice to curse out his DEA partners for letting the rules get in the way of busting those cartel scum. Get ready for the "I purposely allowed myself to be captured in order to carry out a convoluted scheme reliant on too many variables to give me any reasonable chance of surviving" scene. And many, many other cop movie cliches that slid by without notice by thanks to the earlier seasons' stronger casts.

Not everyone in this show does a bad job, Diego Luna is great as the cartel boss you start out rooting for, but by the end hate worse than any villain in the series so far.

But the other huge weakness of the show is something no about of good acting can overcome. This show goes beyond The Hobbit trilogy levels of stretching out too little story over too many episodes. In addition to all the cop show cliches you get "stir the sauce" cocaine freakout scene set to some iconic 80s song like "Karma Chameleon" one after another after another. And then to add insult to injury, they end the story at the halfway mark so they can stretch it out over at least one more season.

Bleh! Biggest Netflix disappointment since Stranger Things season 2.
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 Post subject: Re: TV you've just watched
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:00 pm 


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Narcos Mexico (Netflix)

The shark has been jumped.

I still think the first season of Narcos was some of the best TV put out by Netflix, owing to the insanity of Pablo Escobar's true story. Season 3 was pretty weak because in real life the Cali cartel for the most part kept their heads down, (compared to Escobar) and they put in a bunch of filler subplots that all went nowhere to no lasting effect, but the leads were still convincing actors. But Narcos Mexico is not only bad, it spoils the earlier seasons in retrospect by laying the weaknesses of the series in clear relief.

The number one thing that sinks Narcos Mexico is Michael Peña horribly miscast as the DEA agent lead. Boyd Holbrook and Pedro Pascal could convincingly come across as driven badasses who could stare down murderous cartel psychos. Michael Peña is a doughy goofball best suited for romantic comedies and/or being the comic relief. I do not buy him as a driven ex-marine cop-on-the-edge, and every scene he's in took me completely out of the story.



I loved Narcos Season 1 & 2 , I believe many South Americans were put off with Wagner Moura's Brazilian accent, made no difference to me as am no wiser what he should sound like.

Am looking forward to watching Narcos Mexico and I'll keep an open mind but I've a funny feeling after reading your comment it's going to suck :/


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Mischief Maker wrote:
Narcos Mexico (Netflix)



Finished this tonight. Couldn't agree more on Peña. I thought he'd grow on me the way Boyd Holbrook as the douchebag Steve Murphy did but nah, he's terrible. Peñas performance isn't too dissimilar to his role in 'End of Watch', you can't take him seriously. Something I thoroughly enjoyed about the first 3 seasons (the first two particularly) was the injection of historical footage; that's all but absent now (it's there but the clips are few and far between). Diego Luna and Joaquín Cosio portrayals of Felix Angel, Don Neto were fantastic.


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One conclusion I came to on Narcos Mexico is Mexicans can't shoot for shit :D

The shoot out when they raided the pot plantation in the desert was hysterical, the A-team killed more people. :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:23 pm 


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One conclusion I came to on Narcos Mexico is Mexicans can't shoot for shit :D

The shoot out when they raided the pot plantation in the desert was hysterical, the A-team killed more people. :lol: :lol:

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Star Trek TNG.

Never watched it growing up. Surprised at how much I'm enjoying it.

Season the of F is for Family. Continues to bring me back to when you didn't need to wear your seat belt, and chances are your parents didn't know where the fuck you were. Also no smartphones, cause fuck those things.

Somehow we all survived to adulthood.

Started Happy. What if Detective Stabler from SVU went off the deep end? First two episodes were good, third one had a stupid ending, not going to throw the towel in just yet though.
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Interesting to hear that it's not aged too much. Never watched any Star Trek other than a few of the movies. I've always toyed w/ giving this one it's day in court.
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Interesting to hear that it's not aged too much. Never watched any Star Trek other than a few of the movies. I've always toyed w/ giving this one it's day in court.

Star Trek: TNG is really rough the first season save for the horror episode, but the rest of the series has mostly aged well. Been watching more Detective Montalbano lately. He got himself shot in the last episode I watched. Still a well done series based off a series of books.
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SuperPang wrote:
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I had to pause a few times.

That Alexandra Daddario scene amarite fellas?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 am 


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lilmanjs wrote:
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Interesting to hear that it's not aged too much. Never watched any Star Trek other than a few of the movies. I've always toyed w/ giving this one it's day in court.

Star Trek: TNG is really rough the first season save for the horror episode, but the rest of the series has mostly aged well.


Not so sure about a good chunk of season 2 when Beverly Crusher was temporarily replaced with a lady that tries too hard to be a female Dr. McCoy.


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"Q Who" in season 2 is the episode that's the turning point for TNG. Specifically the one that slaps the smug off all their faces.

But I'd suggest starting with the first two seasons of the original series. The original series is kind of like The Twilight Zone with fixed protagonists, with episodes written by many of "the greats" of 20th century sci fi like Harlan Ellison or Richard Matheson. Redlettermedia recently described Trek as a horror series, and while that was meant tongue-in-cheek, that kind of is the tone of the original series. I love TNG, but the Enterprise D felt comfy like a luxury hotel and the galaxy felt much smaller. TOS in its better episodes really had that feeling of a tiny bird-shaped ship on its own in the darkness of deep space.

And you'll find most of the cliches about TOS are just plain false. Except for dudes in redshirts dropping like flies, that one's true.
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TOS is good stuff. Not only does it have some awesome serious episodes, it even pulls up straight up comedy well. It even has a spy themed episode with Teri Garr and a mysterious "cat".

I find it interesting that Harlan Ellison was a recurring character in Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:04 pm 


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But I'd suggest starting with the first two seasons of the original series. The original series is kind of like The Twilight Zone with fixed protagonists,


Which I do watch from time to time. Question -- is Season 3 of TOS considered inferior?
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Season 3 is generally considered inferior, but it still has a few episodes worth watching. Actually, even Spock's Brain is worth watching just to see how insanely messed up it is.


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