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This is one of my favorite shots as far as lighting goes:

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I tried to watch She-Hulk, and it's unwatchable. I really wanted to like it, and I'm generally good at ignoring lots of stupidity, but this was just too much. It's so goofy and bad; I get that it's trying to be goofy, but it's not funny at all, and the obvious forced SJW vibe on the whole makes it embarrassing to watch. This is coming from someone who would be described (me) as politically left.
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There's no reason to feel like a bad liberal for hating She-Hulk.

The reason they insist on terrible computer effects for Disney projects is because that's the one sector of the vfx business that isn't unionized, so they can overwork and underpay CG artists in a way they couldn't makeup and practical effects artists.

Then publicly mock the results.
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I'm enjoying She-Hulk, and I also really liked Ms. Marvel, but then I also enjoyed the comic runs they were based on, so I guess I'm part of the demographic they're pandering to? The effects are kinda bad but that's not really what I'm there for.

Moon Knight was some absolute fucking trash, though.
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I liked Ms Marvel. I thought it was fun and heartfelt, and I really got behind the main character. I don't like She Hulk, I hate the main character and I hate the tone of the whole thing. It makes my skin crawl.

Also, I don't identify as a "liberal" fyi. To me that's a particular flavor of centrist, class-apologist bs, not a loose descriptor of leftist politics.
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Just finished up season 3 of Harley Quinn and it's fucking quality. Diedrich Bader finally surpasses Adam West as the second-greatest Batman of all time.

Socialist Joker is the best thing DC has done in ages.
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And indeed! One handsomely-shot show, just like BB before it. I was hitting the screencap button a lot with those landscapes, in particular. Good enough to frame.
It has really taught me to embrace wider angle lenses. Thinking of picking up a 21mm for Burning Man next year.
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vol.2 wrote:I tried to watch She-Hulk, and it's unwatchable. I really wanted to like it, and I'm generally good at ignoring lots of stupidity, but this was just too much. It's so goofy and bad; I get that it's trying to be goofy, but it's not funny at all, and the obvious forced SJW vibe on the whole makes it embarrassing to watch. This is coming from someone who would be described (me) as politically left.
I really don't get any 'forced SJW vibe' from the show(and god I hate that phrase), it's just diverse? It doesn't mean it's part of a grand scheme.

She-Hulk isn't great or anything, but it's funny enough, and at least it tries to be different(and boy am I down for more Charlie Cox' Daredevil).
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I'm rewatching Netflix's "Dark" Very good B-tier German language show strongly influenced by Twin Peaks.

I really appreciate that its twisty-turny plot was clearly planned from the beginning similar to Babylon 5 and not just a mystery box that gets tied up by deus ex machnia once the writers realize they're stuck, like Battlestar Galactica.

I also love the soundtrack.

But Ho-lee-shit does this show live up to its title in the third season. I remembered all these sympathetic characters dying brutal deaths, I forgot that they all happened in a single episode.
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You know in that one shitty recent Star Wars film, where Mary Sue and Space Adam Lanza are fighting a bunch of ninjas in a red room, and one gets her in an armlock with a laser dagger pointed square at her defenseless back, and then the director just handwaves it so the dude was magically empty-handed all along - because there's no other way she's avoiding a white-hot plasma blade straight through the aorta? (and because convincingly staging a 2v10 melee actually takes skill and nous?)

I didn't think it'd be topped so soon :shock: :lol:

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God I'm glad I never cared about any of this pop fantasy/science fiction stuff. It must be rough for diehards. You can't choose what you love. 3; So many neckbeards and neckbeard-adjacent peeps I enjoy lamenting this shitshow.

Take up something you can control, imho. Like strength training, or The Hard Gayming! We have a whole forum (and subforum!) for the latter. Yeah most of it is shit nowadays, but a lot of it was back then too - and moreover, the old stuff that's good will be kicking like a mule long after you're dust. Get some decent clears, preferably with some decent posts for the rest of us to enjoy! That's how I deal with all this godawful shite that passes for our pop culture, anyway.

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BIL wrote: God I'm glad I never cared about any of this pop fantasy/science fiction stuff. It must be rough for diehards. You can't choose what you love. 3; So many neckbeards and neckbeard-adjacent peeps I enjoy lamenting this shitshow.
ugh I don't even want to watch that show, I think I've watched enough LOR related material for the rest of my life. Seriously there has to be some limit to it.


I've been watching the anime Monster. Just finished ep 3 last night and it's getting goooood. Idk why I never heard of this one before it slaps.
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Monster is great, a real odyssey. I initially couldn't quite believe the OP's shaggy, hard-eyed spectre was the innocent Tenma of the early parts... his weathering is exceptionally well-done, exactly the slow-cooked character development I want in a long-form serial. I enjoyed the nestling of hard character study within a semi-fantastical crime drama, too - very Tom Harris-esque, with its grim stakes and diabolically imposing, faintly sympathetic antagonist.

Not a slight on the show itself, but the thing I remember most sharply (other than a couple of excellent supporting characters and their arcs), is the charmingly eerie, slowly-evolving credits sequence, set to David Sylvian's "For The Love Of Life." Didn't know him at all, before watching, but what an impression.

For the love of life
There's a trade on
We could lose it all, but we'll go down fighting
3;

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Crossposting from the movie thread, as this really was for all intents and purposes the third BB television series, just a very short one:

El Camino (2019)

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Subtitled "A Breaking Bad Movie," this is more of an epilogue; a two-hour series encore. Ironically, Better Call Saul's final episodes provide a decidedly more filmic experience, with their bleak exile into B&W neo-noir.

With Vince Gilligan at the helm, BB's strengths are well-inherited. The harrowing brushes with doom, laced by virtuosic black humour; the ingenious yet crisply efficient frames, and poignantly lyrical timeline hops. If you love BB, and want a shot of closure, this'll be warm blanket-inviting. If you've not seen BB, don't bother (or at least watch that first). Sans the abyssal vice and savagery that made Camino's haunted world, blind viewers will find a merely likeable street-level crime drama.

Approach accordingly - while the least essential of Gilligan's triptych by far, it's just as expertly-made as its peers, and well-recommended to fans of; albeit, by that same token, relatively few others.

Spoilers for collective series (BrBa/BCS/Camino)
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I have to say, I was never overly fond of Jesse and his orbit, preferring Walter's contemplative glimpse of a troubled genius haplessly compounding his own tragic end; and I always found Jesse's pivotal snapping over Brock slightly hard to believe, given some of the other shit Walt had done. Atrocious, certainly, but a little too self-indulgently short-sighted for a steadily-maturing deuteragonist. They missed a trick not making Walt's murder of Jesse's newfound mentor Mike the more explicit trigger, I think.

So a return to his storyline didn't really hook me, the way another characters' might've. More Mike, or Gus, or Hector, or Huell? Hell yeah. The kid, not so much.

That said, the character's metaphorical death, descent into hell, and improbable redemption were always grimly compelling, and Aaron Paul and Jesse Plemons are both superb actors; it's enjoyable work for sure, Gilligan's stated intent of taking Jesse "from a boy to a man" undertaken with heart and elan. Undeniably scintillating seeing his final TV scene slam head-on into the wailing sirens and flashing lights of What Happened Next.

Badger and Pete were more lovable than ever, with their window back to dubiously happier times for Jesse. Robert Forster turns in a characteristically warm final performance as Ed The Disappearer. Bryan Cranston and Jonathan Banks treasures as always, in their brief cameos.
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BIL wrote:Monster is great, a real odyssey. I initially couldn't quite believe the OP's shaggy, hard-eyed spectre was the innocent Tenma of the early parts... his weathering is exceptionally well-done, exactly the slow-cooked character development I want in a long-form serial. I enjoyed the nestling of hard character study within a semi-fantastical crime drama, too - very Tom Harris-esque, with its grim stakes and diabolically imposing, faintly sympathetic antagonist.

Not a slight on the show itself, but the thing I remember most sharply (other than a couple of excellent supporting characters and their arcs), is the charmingly eerie, slowly-evolving credits sequence, set to David Sylvian's "For The Love Of Life." Didn't know him at all, before watching, but what an impression.

For the love of life
There's a trade on
We could lose it all, but we'll go down fighting
3;

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Crossposting from the movie thread, as this really was for all intents and purposes the third BB television series, just a very short one:

El Camino (2019)

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Subtitled "A Breaking Bad Movie," this is more of an epilogue; a two-hour series encore. Ironically, Better Call Saul's final episodes provide a decidedly more filmic experience, with their bleak exile into B&W neo-noir.

With Vince Gilligan at the helm, BB's strengths are well-inherited. The harrowing brushes with doom, laced by virtuosic black humour; the ingenious yet crisply efficient frames, and poignantly lyrical timeline hops. If you love BB, and want a shot of closure, this'll be warm blanket-inviting. If you've not seen BB, don't bother (or at least watch that first). Sans the abyssal vice and savagery that made Camino's haunted world, blind viewers will find a merely likeable street-level crime drama.

Approach accordingly - while the least essential of Gilligan's triptych by far, it's just as expertly-made as its peers, and well-recommended to fans of; albeit, by that same token, relatively few others.

Spoilers for collective series (BrBa/BCS/Camino)
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I have to say, I was never overly fond of Jesse and his orbit, preferring Walter's contemplative glimpse of a troubled genius haplessly compounding his own tragic end; and I always found Jesse's pivotal snapping over Brock slightly hard to believe, given some of the other shit Walt had done. Atrocious, certainly, but a little too self-indulgently short-sighted for a steadily-maturing deuteragonist. They missed a trick not making Walt's murder of Jesse's newfound mentor Mike the more explicit trigger, I think.

So a return to his storyline didn't really hook me, the way another characters' might've. More Mike, or Gus, or Hector, or Huell? Hell yeah. The kid, not so much.

That said, the character's metaphorical death, descent into hell, and improbable redemption were always grimly compelling, and Aaron Paul and Jesse Plemons are both superb actors; it's enjoyable work for sure, Gilligan's stated intent of taking Jesse "from a boy to a man" undertaken with heart and elan. Undeniably scintillating seeing his final TV scene slam head-on into the wailing sirens and flashing lights of What Happened Next.

Badger and Pete were more lovable than ever, with their window back to dubiously happier times for Jesse. Robert Forster turns in a characteristically warm final performance as Ed The Disappearer. Bryan Cranston and Jonathan Banks treasures as always, in their brief cameos.
I absolutely adored the final scene and the end credits, parting ways with the cameo from
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Beautifully-chosen highlight reel of Better Call Saul cinematography, made me think of this thread. :smile: (extensive spoilers for entire series, ofc)
cj iwakura wrote:I absolutely adored the final scene and the end credits, parting ways with the cameo from
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"Could start all over."
"Yep."
"Put things right..."
"Sorry, kid. One thing you can never do."

The ending made the film, giving it a unique voice on its series' unifying theme (as I see it, anyway): regret.
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Jesse starts Camino echoing Jimmy's longing for a time machine; the sole means of truly "putting things right," as Mike knows all too well. The series is driven by characters longing to upend the laws of the universe; those who felt they'd failed unforgivably, like Mike and Walt, and those fuelled by sheer enmity, like Jimmy and Gus.

Absent the cruelly impossible notion of time travel, crime became the next-surest means of tearing down the walls; making things not "right," but at least more bearable. I think that's the key distinction between these characters, and the Jacks, Lydias, and Eladios simply reaping the spoils... they're all career criminals, ultimately, but you couldn't write a series like this about the latter camp. Where things turn diabolical, in each series, is generally when the "struggler" loses sight of his original goal; embracing crime, rather than grimly deploying it. Walt's ferociously reignited joie de vivre as Heisenberg; Jimmy's radioactively sleazy post-Kim lifestyle, and all its gauche accoutrements; arguably Gus's insistence on killing an invalid, heirless Hector with his own hands, having long since annihilated all his enemy held sacred.

Camino ends with Jesse as the one lead character seeming to accept things as they are, before it's too late. He's a far younger man than his counterparts, of course; one who's simply not lived long enough to make the mistakes and accrue the regrets they did (an elegant explanation for his part's relative brevity). But I like to think the implication, going forward on the titular road, is that he'll learn from what he's seen. Learning from others, in a way, being the nearest to "time travel" we can hope for.
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BIL wrote:Beautifully-chosen highlight reel of Better Call Saul cinematography, made me think of this thread. :smile: (extensive spoilers for entire series, ofc)
Good stuff!
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Decided to give Daredevil a second watch to prepare for his MCU return and it's still an absolute banger! The fights are great and they do at least one extended single-take action sequence per season. It's also shot really well, with all sorts of interesting heavily colored lighting for mood. The acting is good pretty much across the board, especially Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin.

It can't quite match up to Doom Patrol, Peacemaker, or Harley Quinn; but it's probably the best of the "play it straight" superhero stuff. I'd say along with Ms. Marvel it's Marvel's strongest tv offering so far, but most of the Netflix Marvel stuff is great.

ETA: Daredevil on She-Hulk was great and I hope they go all-in on this, they make a fantastic couple. I think they're the first MCU pairing that's actually had chemistry. Give me Luke Cage and Jessica Jones dropping their kid off with Squirrel Girl for the double date with She-Hulk and Daredevil!

My only complaint about She-Hulk is that they did my boy Mr. Immortal dirty as fuck, but I'm a total Great Lakes Avengers stan, so that's pretty minor in the grand scheme.
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Heh, Futurama's getting another 20 episode run. This show's probably got more final episodes than any other. Is there any other that's had as many?
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BryanM wrote:Heh, Futurama's getting another 20 episode run. This show's probably got more final episodes than any other. Is there any other that's had as many?
Maybe Red Dwarf?
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Air Master Burst wrote:Decided to give Daredevil a second watch to prepare for his MCU return and it's still an absolute banger! The fights are great and they do at least one extended single-take action sequence per season. It's also shot really well, with all sorts of interesting heavily colored lighting for mood. The acting is good pretty much across the board, especially Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin.

It can't quite match up to Doom Patrol, Peacemaker, or Harley Quinn; but it's probably the best of the "play it straight" superhero stuff. I'd say along with Ms. Marvel it's Marvel's strongest tv offering so far, but most of the Netflix Marvel stuff is great.

ETA: Daredevil on She-Hulk was great and I hope they go all-in on this, they make a fantastic couple. I think they're the first MCU pairing that's actually had chemistry. Give me Luke Cage and Jessica Jones dropping their kid off with Squirrel Girl for the double date with She-Hulk and Daredevil!

My only complaint about She-Hulk is that they did my boy Mr. Immortal dirty as fuck, but I'm a total Great Lakes Avengers stan, so that's pretty minor in the grand scheme.
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Loved The Boys both more and less than I'd expected - As in, it's not as much a deconstruction of superheroes as I'd hoped.

Ideally you can describe the show as a thought experiment of what superheroes would be like in the real world if they were actually superpowered and heavily franchised celebrities who still have to deal with all the flaws that real humans do.
Practically, however, there's very little of that. The primary antagonists of the show, most notably Homelander and Stormfront, are just straight up comic book villains, that just happen to be posing as heroes in this story. But the show also does manage to inject a share of genuinely complex characters with a more human flair, and that's what makes it really interesting and genuinely exciting to follow.

I've proposed the idea that Homelander would have been a more interesting character if he actually was trying to be the people's hero, and did see himself as a good person, while still suffering from the same narcisism and delusions of grandiour - as opposed to just being a straight up evil monster who pretends being a man of the people. I think it would fit perfectly into the setting, it would seriously amp up the drama, and also help kill off some of the forced suspension of disbelief that the show relies on.

But as a friend of mine correctly pointed out, the show also relies on a whole bunch of dumb good fun, and it's very possible that it wouldn't have been as entertaining as it is without a sufficient dose of over-the-top shlock. As such, The Boys falls between two chairs, but it's hard to tell whether it is better or worse off for it.

One thing I think it absolutely does suffer from, however, is the source material. I haven't read the comics, but I've read other Garth Ennis stuff, including all of Preacher, and I really don't like him. He's a good storyteller at times, but he also comes across like a sorry excuse for a bully, glorifying violence for the sake of violence, like a 13-year-old trying to be edgy without realising he's just embarassing. I get the same energy from his stories as a kid who draws pictures of his school teacher getting brutally murdered because he's angry at him.
I've heard a few different accounts, but most of what I know about the comics comes from this video, whose points also get backed up by other sources. And knowing Ennis' style of writing, I believe most of its claims, and I can easily tell which aspects of the show are inherited directly from the virtual hard-on Ennis gets from writing characters brutally punishing fragile strawmen of everything he dislikes. As such the show's parodies of modern pop culture and American politics fluctuate wildly between juvenile caricatures similar to the GTA series' embarassing attempts at "satire", and actually genuinely tragic imitiations that just hit the nail on its head.

It's also really bad at figuring out when the absurd and over-the-top ultraviolent or sexualized setpieces are actually funny, and when they are just cringeworthy and stupid. It's funny when a guy accidentally explodes another person's penis after growing small enough to enter it, while the continuously repeated "the water themed superhero just really wants to have sex with marine animals" joke wasn't funny the first time they try to pull it, and certainly isn't the fourth time they do it either.

Aside from the occasional cringe, I really liked the show though. Though I'm curious to see if it'll be able to carry a fourth season. The third season kinda takes every character to a natural conclusion of their arcs, and they don't really have any more steam to go on going forward. Especially the decision to
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cj iwakura wrote:
JJ and LC's chemistry in the Netflix show was incredible, and I hope Disney takes it back.
Yeah, I guess I kind of warmed up to She Hulk a bit, and Charlie Cox was a big part of that. I still didn't care much for the first couple of episodes; I thought they hammed it up way too much and I really, really, hate all the 4th wall crap that's definitely persisting.

JJ was great for the first season or two, but it fell so hard on it's face that I am still reeling from how bad the last half of the show was. Pretty much anything that focused on Rachael Taylor was horrid. Not sure I'm ready to give that mess another chance.
Sumez wrote:Loved The Boys both more and less than I'd expected - As in, it's not as much a deconstruction of superheroes as I'd hoped.
I tried to watch it. Like everyone I know told me it's great and I would love it, but I just haven't been able to crack it. I just can't shake the feeling that it's all too self-aware and over-the-top. There's something that feels contrived and cheesy and immature about it I can't see past and just enjoy it. But everyone keeps telling me it's so fantastic; maybe I just have to stick with it for awhile or something. I only watched the first two episodes.

I have been watching (for the first time) Atlanta

I haven't enjoyed a TV show as much for a long, long time. I went into it expecting an Atlanta version of The Wire, but what I got was so much more. Far from some generic yarn about the woes of living in poverty, it's super intelligent, funny, and tightly produced. Right around episode 5 is where I realized that it's something special. The scene where Darius goes to a shooting range with a dog target ranks among the best moments of TV history ever.
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Sumez wrote:One thing I think it absolutely does suffer from, however, is the source material. I haven't read the comics, but I've read other Garth Ennis stuff, including all of Preacher, and I really don't like him. He's a good storyteller at times, but he also comes across like a sorry excuse for a bully, glorifying violence for the sake of violence, like a 13-year-old trying to be edgy without realising he's just embarassing. I get the same energy from his stories as a kid who draws pictures of his school teacher getting brutally murdered because he's angry at him.
I've heard a few different accounts, but most of what I know about the comics comes from this video, whose points also get backed up by other sources. And knowing Ennis' style of writing, I believe most of its claims, and I can easily tell which aspects of the show are inherited directly from the virtual hard-on Ennis gets from writing characters brutally punishing fragile strawmen of everything he dislikes.
Yeah, Ennis overall kind of sucks. Like you said, his biggest fault is he's frankly just immature. Everyone talks like how I assume he does. I really liked Preacher when I was in my early twenties, if not slightly before, and I'm kind of afraid to give it another spin based on my reactions to some of his other stuff I've read in the past years. I recall not having much issue with his take on Hellblazer and Punisher, but again, I can't say that with conviction due to the years its been. Seems like the type of writer that needs to be on a leash, because when he has full reign you get stuff like Crossed, which is as juvenile as it comes.
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The only Ennis adaptation I ever liked was Punisher: Warzone because it fully owns the unintentional goofiness of his characters.

I also bailed on The Boys after about 4 episodes. It just left me feeling like I had to take a shower.
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Warzone is great, probably my favorite Punisher movie following the Dolph one, but it's not an adaptation of anything... despite two separate Warzone comics :lol: . The 2004 one with Tom Jane has a bunch from Ennis' Welcome Back Frank, though.
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I never liked Punisher when I was growing up and getting into Marvel comics. He stank of right-wing gun fetish murder fantasy, something I've become all too familiar with as an adult. But Welcome Back, Frank had this moment* that turned the character on his head and changed how I saw him. It's a good story overall, some juvenile shit, but not enough to ruin it.

Ennis followed that with an embarrassing Marvel Knights Punisher run. Just the saddest edgelord jokes 24/7.

And he followed that with a Punisher Max run that mostly restrained his sense of humor. This is his strongest work at Marvel and damn near the strongest I've read from him as a whole... half the time. Plenty of the arcs are skippable. However, I'm glad I read Born, In the Beginning, Mother Russia, The Slavers, and The Tyger.

* I've learned since that even this wasn't quite original to Ennis, it's an extension of what Mike Baron's run reached for early on
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vol.2 wrote: I tried to watch it. Like everyone I know told me it's great and I would love it, but I just haven't been able to crack it. I just can't shake the feeling that it's all too self-aware and over-the-top. There's something that feels contrived and cheesy and immature about it I can't see past and just enjoy it. But everyone keeps telling me it's so fantastic; maybe I just have to stick with it for awhile or something. I only watched the first two episodes.
Yeah that's exactly the stuff I'm talking about when I say it suffers from its source material. To be honest, that aspect doesn't get better, in fact I think a lot of the more immature scenes come up in the later episodes. If it's hard for you to see past those things, the show will probably keep being hard for you to enjoy.
But the show also has some really great characters with solid stories, and really impactful moments. I really like the dramatic aspects of it. If you're still willing to give The Boys a chance, I'd say watch up past the point where a couple of superheroes go out to save a hijacked plane. If the series is able to get you hooked, you should probably be hooked at that point.
I think that's episode 4, a highlight of the season - meanwhile, the very next episode is probably the worst of the entire series, dedicated mostly to parodying conservative American religion. A subject that feels apt in the context of the story, but the way it's handled is immature and clumsy.
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Finished up Better Call Saul. Great series but I didn’t care for the ending. Started in on House of Dragons. So far it’s better than I expected.
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Mortificator wrote:But Welcome Back, Frank had this moment* that turned the character on his head and changed how I saw him.
Care to spoil that moment for me? Google isn't being cooperative.
Two working class dudes, one black one white, just baked a tray of ten cookies together.

An oligarch walks in and grabs nine cookies for himself.

Then he says to the white dude "Watch out for that black dude, he wants a piece of your cookie!"
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Mischief Maker wrote:Care to spoil that moment for me? Google isn't being cooperative.
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That he wasn't traumatized by his time in the military or broken by his family's death. Those were ultimately enablement to fulfill his pathological need for the War.

Mike Baron's run introduced Punisher's partner Microchip (aside: I haven't watched War Zone, but I looked up the cast after it was mentioned in this thread and smiled when I saw he gets played by Wayne Knight). Micro's son tags along on a mission and winds up dead, after which Punisher dumps his body on the floor in front of Micro with a "sorry, man" and is creepily obtuse about Micro's grief. Responses in the letters page were shocked, upset. How could someone who lost his family to violence not show his partner sympathy? Doesn't he feel any guilt for getting a young man who looked up to him killed? Nope. Someone capable of healthy human interaction isn't someone who goes out every night and lights dudes up with a machine gun.

Of course, these are comics from a big moneymaking franchise, and so often have been simple power fantasies of good guy shooting bad guys. However, when a little verisimilitude enters the picture, we're looking at someone unadmirable who no one could stand being.
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Just finished Stranger Things Season 4. It seemed high production value but I was only mildly entertained throughout, with the exception of E7, that episode and the reveal of the baddie was decently made.

It was enjoyable overall, but I had a better time with S1 and S3. This is still miles better than S2 though. 7.5/10

Just started Sandman. I liked the premise of the pilot, but the show is losing a bit of the appeal to me with the subsequent episodes. The acting seems hit and miss, that Johanna Constantine actress was so bad.
I'm gonna try to finish, but my expectations are low already.
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