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I've been watching The Rehearsal as they've been airing, which is Nathan Fielder's newest show and has somehow exceeded my expectations when Nathan for You already set the bar high. Episode 3 just dropped over the weekend but it's definitely not what I expected from the trailers.

so far it kinda seems like Nathan is sculpting his own Synecdoche, New York while really hammering in on the cringe and dry humor attention to detail to help participants rehearse difficult conversations that they're going to have irl.

if you know Nathan For You just you can just go into it blind, but if you don't... it's probably better to start with Nathan for You just to get accustomed to his humor/dedication to his craft.
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Some-Mist wrote: so far it kinda seems like Nathan is sculpting his own Synecdoche, New York while really hammering in on the cringe and dry humor attention to detail to help participants rehearse difficult conversations that they're going to have irl.
it's hilarious. I don't think you have to watch For You first tbh; it's easy enough to get the premise. Nathan finds people who are gullible, dimwitted and debatably insane, and tries to "help" them overcome some obstacle they have identified for him in a want ad. Much care is taken by Nathan to set these fools up in situations that show them for what they really are. Sometimes, the participants get a whiff of what's happening (episode 1 participant sees the condescension of the fake win, episode 3 participant goes awol after a particularly mean setup), but they are more or less ignorant to the silly part they are playing. It's kind of like Kids in the Hall meets the worst of American Idol contestants.

As long as you are okay with Nathan fucking with these crazy people, it's an amazing show, if that bothers you, it's probably going to feel super cringe. Imho, it's genius.
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vol.2 wrote:
Some-Mist wrote: so far it kinda seems like Nathan is sculpting his own Synecdoche, New York while really hammering in on the cringe and dry humor attention to detail to help participants rehearse difficult conversations that they're going to have irl.
it's hilarious. I don't think you have to watch For You first tbh; it's easy enough to get the premise. Nathan finds people who are gullible, dimwitted and debatably insane, and tries to "help" them overcome some obstacle they have identified for him in a want ad. Much care is taken by Nathan to set these fools up in situations that show them for what they really are. Sometimes, the participants get a whiff of what's happening (episode 1 participant sees the condescension of the fake win, episode 3 participant goes awol after a particularly mean setup), but they are more or less ignorant to the silly part they are playing. It's kind of like Kids in the Hall meets the worst of American Idol contestants.

As long as you are okay with Nathan fucking with these crazy people, it's an amazing show, if that bothers you, it's probably going to feel super cringe. Imho, it's genius.
you don't have to but I still think it's a good starting point since it's also a fantastic show and it helps understand how it's evolved since then, because so far I think it's been on another level.

(my s/o can barely stand the cringe lol)
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LA Brea

If you liked the Dome, you might like this. Or perhaps that TV show from a few years ago that had the bad guy from Avatar in it where there were 2 Earths and a wormhole.

Well LA Brea is a sinkhole with a wormhole.

Only watched 1 episode. I'd give it 6/10, but because its one of those mystery things like "Lost" I will give it a shot I like mysteries as long as the ride is fun as well.
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LA Brea.

After watching a few more episodes, it does the run of the mill format. Its so generic. I guess NBC do this shit all the time.



I tried to watch 3 Amazon shows recently. Can't remember the names, but all 3 started exactly the same. The music at the start ended up being someone using headphones and when they took them off the sound changed from loud to coming out of headphones. Must be an amazon thing.
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neorichieb1971 wrote: I guess NBC do this shit all the time.
What do you expect from a major network?
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Sandman

It has things I like and some things I don't like. But its pretty good for a Netflix show. The pacing can be slow in places, too much walking around with the cameraman. If you like a childrens tale dressed up in gothic drama with a bit of sex and magic kills you might like it.
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Watched Better Call Saul stick the landing last night. I'm sure most will say Breaking Bad was better but I've never seen a show make the inevitable so surprising and entertaining.
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neorichieb1971 wrote:Sandman

It has things I like and some things I don't like. But its pretty good for a Netflix show. The pacing can be slow in places, too much walking around with the cameraman. If you like a childrens tale dressed up in gothic drama with a bit of sex and magic kills you might like it.
Calling The Sandman "a childrens tale dressed up in gothic drama with a bit of sex and magic kills" is like calling Neon Genesis Evangelion "a saturday morning cartoon about kids piloting giant robots."
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Mischief Maker wrote:Calling The Sandman "a childrens tale dressed up in gothic drama with a bit of sex and magic kills" is like calling Neon Genesis Evangelion "a saturday morning cartoon about kids piloting giant robots."
Wait, are you saying Eva isn't meant for kids? Most people I know who got super into Eva did it when they were still kids.

Most of the people buying Sandman comics back in the day were the edgy junior high kids who played a lot of World of Darkness (nervous cough).

I posit that neither Sandman nor Eva were originally intended for a primarily full-grown audience.

ETA: actually I was into Transmetropolitan and WFRP but that venn diagram is probably pretty close to a single circle.
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Air Master Burst wrote:
Mischief Maker wrote:Calling The Sandman "a childrens tale dressed up in gothic drama with a bit of sex and magic kills" is like calling Neon Genesis Evangelion "a saturday morning cartoon about kids piloting giant robots."
Wait, are you saying Eva isn't meant for kids? Most people I know who got super into Eva did it when they were still kids.

Most of the people buying Sandman comics back in the day were the edgy junior high kids who played a lot of World of Darkness (nervous cough).

I posit that neither Sandman nor Eva were originally intended for a primarily full-grown audience.

ETA: actually I was into Transmetropolitan and WFRP but that venn diagram is probably pretty close to a single circle.
Just because lots of people watched Ghostbusters as kids doesn't mean Ghostbusters is a kids movie.

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Neon Genesis Evangelion is a meditation on clinical depression, manifested in various ways by all its characters.

Similarly The Sandman is a meditation on abuse (especially family abuse) and survivors' various dysfunctional coping mechanisms.
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Mischief Maker wrote:Neon Genesis Evangelion is a meditation on clinical depression, manifested in various ways by all its characters.

Similarly The Sandman is a meditation on abuse (especially family abuse) and survivors' various dysfunctional coping mechanisms.
I would contend that both of those are good issues for kids to learn about through easily-digested parables like Sandman and Eva, and that both of them intentionally deal with their issues in a manner that kids can grasp as easily as adults, which is probably part of why they're so popular.

Ghostbusters is actually a great example! Because of the popularity of the first Ghostbusters with kids, they made the second one with toy merchandising in mind. That's part of the reason it sucked. Granted, I never liked any of the Ghostbusters live-action stuff much until the 2016 movie (Extreme Ghostbusters was my jam tho), so I'm probably not a great judge of the franchise.
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Air Master Burst wrote:Granted, I never liked any of the Ghostbusters live-action stuff much until the 2016 movie
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I was a 90s kid, not an 80s kid. I vaguely remember the stench of death coming off of the unwanted Ghostbusters 2 toys in the clearance aisle of the local Target on my way to look at Lego, but I was really young. Aliens/Predator, Terminator, and Robocop were the only 80s stalwarts anyone still considered cool on my playground. The real hotness was Batman, X-Men, and Jurassic Park.

Ghostbusters was basically just a bunch of boring old white dudes who almost never used the dope laser packs. After greatly enjoying Ghostbusters Extreme as a stoned teenager, I learned to appreciate why Ghostbusters is so highly regarded, but that's the first impression young AMB had of the franchise, and I still don't much care for it.

The 2016 version I thought was an absolute riot, although I'm sure part of that is because it wasn't kicking my childhood straight in the junk.
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Season 1 of Russian Doll is probably my favorite Netflix original. I was dreading season 2 and my dread was justified, but fortunately it was one of those bad unnecessary sequels that don't ruin the original.

Without going into explicit spoilers, it's a disappointment equivalent to Stranger Things season 2. The mystery has already been solved, now here's more of the same leading to an ending you saw coming a mile away with nothing new learned.
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In general it's not the emotional rollercoaster of season 1, sliding from comedy to melodrama to horror to surreal in the blink of an eye. The tone of s2 is pretty uniformly dreary from start to finish. Nadia's using her new quantum leap powers to try and recover her grandmother's stolen gold and missing the final hours of her adoptive mother's life in the process.

Remember how the resolution of s1 hinged on her forming a relationship of mutual support with Alan? Yeah, fuck that relationship. While Alan does go on a quantum leap journey of his own, we barely see any of it on screen, it never intersects with Nadia's, and nothing is accomplished. The whole thing seems to end with a shrug. When he finally reconnects with Nadia in the final episode his own journey is over and he's reduced to nagging her to stop being selfish and restore the status quo. Alan is every bit the same control-freak neurotic he was at the start of s1, Nadia is just as selfish and self-loathing, nothing was learned.

Season 1 had lots of interesting characters with unique personalities and it was fun to watch Nadia bounce off them. Season 2's characters are rote and one-note so it's the Nadia show with her constantly dropping quotes and witticisms that get blank stares of confusion from characters too far in the past to get the references. I actually found her schtick downright infuriating when she quantum leapt into the body of her Jewish grandmother in Nazi-occupied Hungary and she can't stop quipping at Nazi soldiers while other Jewish women in hiding panic and cover for her so she doesn't get shipped to Auschwitz. The music isn't as good as Season 1 either.

Like I said before, the mystery has already been solved in s1. She has to accept the past to get out of this crazy predicament and it's an increasingly annoying wait until she finally does. The final scene is her arriving at the wake of her adoptive mother who she ghosted on in her final moments. It's a downer ending to a story where the only lesson learned is that the ugly old women in her life were fucking hot in their youth.
Season 1 is still highly recommended, but season 2 is not very good and doesn't even feel like it's bringing you back to the same quirky world. Just give s1 a rewatch instead.
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Oh man, hard agree on Russain Doll season 2 jumping the shark, me and my partner were really looking forward to it too!

The new Beavis and Butt-Head is pretty solid. The voices are a bit rough now that Mike Judge is old as shit, but he's still really good at making fun of music videos.

Three Busy Debras is absolutely hilarious. Ended up watching both seasons in one shot. Highly recommended!
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House of the Dragon - Because its GOT.

Didn't have the immediate pull factor for me that GOT had. Definitely sticking with it though.
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GaijinPunch wrote:Watched Better Call Saul stick the landing last night. I'm sure most will say Breaking Bad was better but I've never seen a show make the inevitable so surprising and entertaining.
I'm livid that AMC did everything in their power to make me not be able to easily watch it. I planned on signing up for a trial once it was out, and... only the final half of the final season is available on there, unless I want to buy it for $25.
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cj iwakura wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Watched Better Call Saul stick the landing last night. I'm sure most will say Breaking Bad was better but I've never seen a show make the inevitable so surprising and entertaining.
I'm livid that AMC did everything in their power to make me not be able to easily watch it. I planned on signing up for a trial once it was out, and... only the final half of the final season is available on there, unless I want to buy it for $25.
Well, I can say it's easily worth it.
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GaijinPunch wrote:
cj iwakura wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Watched Better Call Saul stick the landing last night. I'm sure most will say Breaking Bad was better but I've never seen a show make the inevitable so surprising and entertaining.
I'm livid that AMC did everything in their power to make me not be able to easily watch it. I planned on signing up for a trial once it was out, and... only the final half of the final season is available on there, unless I want to buy it for $25.
Well, I can say it's easily worth it.
Yep, I bit the bullet and bought it(which felt silly but ah well, I threw them a few bucks).

I'm a bit disappointed in how Lalo and Nacho's stories ended, but I guess it was inevitable. It felt like the last few episodes were a speedrun, but I still enjoyed it.

My favorite part was easily Jesse talking with Kim outside the office. I love the little offbeat character meetings like that, kind of sad we didn't see Gus more directly establishing a business rapport with Saul once he established himself.
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With its recent finale, and with one week to go before the academic year commences, there was only ever one choice for a holiday-end marathon. Worth the wait as expected, GP. :mrgreen:

Better Call Saul (2015-2022 / Marathonned)

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Bravura black comedy/crime drama. The first two eps were slightly rough going; not for any lack of quality, just a sense of inertia. Jimmy is initially Saul Without Money; a lovable hustler with a JD, whose rogue instinct, prodigious gab, and sheer gut-wrenching brass earn the favour of crooks infinitely scarier. Unapparent is the Odyssean saga he'll undergo, journeying leagues away from his familiar Breaking Bad orbit - not merely on criminal nous, but the riveting ingenuity and unbreakable will of a classic anti-hero; likewise, the deeply-interwoven tragedies that'll ensure his return from a place heartbreakingly near happiness. Mike's deuteragonist role is masterfully inlaid, he and Jimmy's parallel descents into the underworld intersecting with tantalising restraint, each crossover more harrowing than the last until the final, heart-stopping point of no return.

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Like its companion series - neither prequel nor spinoff does BCS justice - it's an exquisitely slow-cooked trip; served with the filmic elan, effortless performances, and sharp balance of black humour and raw tragedy to ensure that, when things finally do go supercritical, and all crashes down, the fallout is marked as much by bittersweet farewell as dramatic release. An easy recommendation for marathon lovers. A standout performer is impossible to choose, but Tony Dalton's Lalo is surely one of the great treasures of recent film. The venerable Michael McKean likewise anchors his end of the series with eccentric-yet-absolute authority. Two of many priceless contributions to a classic American crime/drama duology.

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Yes! Glad you finally bit the bullet and that it paid off.

Dalton's career getting a boost because of this is such fantastic icing on an already amazing cake. Other than Odenkirk and Michael McKean, everyone else is relatively unknown. Rewatching friends, one can see Howard as male nurse that almost scores a date with Monica, and Kim was a sexually harassed political aid in Veep. Then, these relatively unknowns show up and deliver.

Rhea Seehorn was finally nominated for an Emmy... and due to the mid-season split, she (and many of the cast) will qualify again next year for the last few episodes.
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Came around to Breaking Bad Season 1 (7 eps), only now because of not doing hype, yo. Also, I was sceptical if the gal could dig it. As per natural inclination, didn't get informed about it much, that would be flunking on the chem test (yo). So I was astounded to start with the flying empty pants (downwards) and delighted that there is a strong pulse of (no pants) humour and touching moments (listen up class: chemistry is matter, thus chem is change... LIFE :shock: Class: we no care :cry: ) in the pilot. I was expecting something more The Wire; my bad. From there it's gradually cooking, presenting characters I cannot, despite their open human flaws, lump into the "whatever-I'm-done-with-this-tool" bin. No easy feat; they are so delicate, and clichè so easy to deliver. The humour in this, ooh boy. The gal aproves, too; even through some nasty bits. :o Season 2 coming up.

Inbetween:

Started Californication. Two eps in, I can find it winky funny. No pants humour, again. For the gal it's too much baby in Babylon, taking it for asinine reality. She doesn't approve, yet granted to finish the season, and after that to decide to drop it or continue. I have two more seasons here, I think I'll watch on... :lol:


Glad I swerved all this and more, when it was hot. Now I got some treasure trove, it seems, in an age more whatever.
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Locke & Key - cutesy, magical Stephen King light (the graphical novel was written by his son) that might appeal to fans of Harry Potter, Stranger Things and Nancy Drew. 4/5 overall, the first season was easily the strongest, but season two got better a few episodes in. The final, third season was conclusion was decent as well.
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This might have been my favorite scene in the whole series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXgt5q3YflE

Just Hector and Mike quietly facing off, tension you can cut with a knife.
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There's so many to mention, but one that stands out a mile offhand -
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The flawlessly nightmarish direction of Howard and Lalo's fatal meeting. The way the candle flickers to herald someone, who's around a corner and out of the viewer's sight, as Jimmy gets the door. A perfect setup & false reprieve, as it's revealed to be Just Howard. More annoyed than we've seen him, understandably, but well within his usual comportment. The confrontation between the three of them is substantial, heavy, and sustained juuust long enough to fully secure the sense of false alarm...

...allowing that second flicker to sneak in like the reaper's scythe, as a shadow - Jimmy and Kim's utter terror says it all - begins to emerge from behind Howard.

Absolute horror, as befits the point where the show's parallel legal and cartel dramas, each having hit unprecedented fever pitch, finally and irreparably collide. And of course poor, earnest Howard in the middle of it all.

"Who are you?"

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I like that the show treated Howard's death as genuine tragedy - not as a pratfall, or some slapstick comeuppance. That bullseye balance of black-comedic hijinks to blunt, brutal, life-ruining impact is the heart and soul of both series, imo. Ingenious capers and riveting showdowns galore - but when shit hits the fan, it hits ruthlessly.
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I enjoyed the many cigarettes Kim smoked.
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Despite it being a rather dark scene, I cracked up at Lalo's brotastic reaction to Jimmy's good fortune. :lol:

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Lighting in Chuck's place was magical, day and night both. Like a wizard's manse. :o (that's not a rude thing, like a "wizard's sleeve!")

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"You. Are. MINE!" Image
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Bit of the old ultraviolence :cool: Boxcutter revisited.

"Picture ME as that man!" :lol:
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A noir AF tale, in hindsight, tempered by the cold light of day.

Ah man, I forgot about The Sex Toilet. I wonder if that was a holdover from Bob's Mr. Show days... took me right back, I was dying. Image

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Yeah, Lalo had some hot takes on how TF Jimmy pulled Kim.

With all the praise being thrown around, can we talk about the camera work?
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NYN wrote:So I was astounded to start with the flying empty pants (downwards) and delighted that there is a strong pulse of (no pants) humour and touching moments (listen up class: chemistry is matter, thus chem is change... LIFE :shock: Class: we no care :cry: ) in the pilot.
That opening shot of Walt's errant PANTSU is seriously one of the most signal, emblematic images in all of TV drama. :lol: That's the next twelve seasons of BB+BCS in one image. :cool:

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GaijinPunch wrote:Yeah, Lalo had some hot takes on how TF Jimmy pulled Kim.

With all the praise being thrown around, can we talk about the camera work?
I loved that characteristically disarming objection from Lalo when deciding the triggerman. "Yeah, but she's real clever, though! :[ " Like so much of his character, simultaneously lovable and pitch-black horrifying. Image An iconic sociopath.

And indeed! One handsomely-shot show, just like BB before it. I was hitting the screencap button a lot with those landscapes, in particular. Good enough to frame.

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Bagman
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Up from grave
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"You gangsters and your justice..."
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Also, the gorgeous use of pitch-black shadow. Having gone on a short neo-noir kick right beforehand, I was reminded of John Boorman's Point Blank; a picture similarly given to contemplative, quasi-dreamlike intervals, opposite searing darkness.

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Jimmy
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And so many randomly cool, lyrical shots.

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Also also, their montage game was ridiculously tight, even moreso than in Breaking Bad. Never really saw the mirth in those tube dancer things. Fell in love with the shit-eatingly grinning one that became Saul's spirit catalyst. :lol:

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While BCS is a literal "sequel" - continuing the story in the same expertly black-comic tone - I was delighted to see it's also a true successor in terms of cinematography, soundtracking, and overall film-making verve. Delivered more of exactly what I loved in BB, with "Gliding Over All" and other iconic sequences.

Speaking of BB, and BCS's "Jimmy/Saul" split shot, this random bit leapt out at me while revisiting random clips. Having left the safety of Mike's car and scrambled his way through a ragged fence, a still-timid Walter almost collides with an equally bald, but far scarier man emerging from the drug den - shot as mirror images, steadily circling one another to swap places. Like a man confronted by his nascent alter ego.

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I like to think that was the intent, anyway, having obliviously walked into a mirror wall or two in my day. :oops: Image God, it's been a good time for US-made televisual dramas, this last decade or so. Image
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