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The Shape Of Water 4/5.

Guillermo del Toro has a good eye and is great with actors. I did think the ending felt a bit compressed.

[GaijinPunch]

Jennifer Jason Leigh was great.

Fella, you need to ease up on that pipe.

Jennifer Jason Leigh single-handedly dropped the overall quality of this movie by approximately 30-40%. She was akin to a hobo smack addict that had been pulled out of an alleyway behind the Paramount lot,

I think that's what she was aiming for. Having seen here recently in a few things I am quite sure she was directed that way, and delivered.

Okay, the end, maybe was a bit over the top for a minute, but while she had like 3x the screen time as Tessa Thompson, she still didn't have enough substance to get so bent out of shape over.

I liked her in The Hateful Eight, but I have a bit of a soft spot for trashy women.

[GaijinPunch]

I watched Annihilation as well and to be honest I'm surprised in a positive way.

Even though I have full faith in Garland's abilities, I didn't thought that he was able to make a acceptable screenplay of such a bad novel. Comparing with it, the movie is really good.

Okay, so... this is the one thing missing from all of the varied posts here - it seems now we finally have a single poster that has read the actual fucking source material. While I guess you can make a good film out of a not so great novel (I argue Blade Runner > Electric Sheep) it's not that easy to do.

So, is the novel that bad? Did you read them all? Everywhere I read it seems to be pretty mixed in response. I'm quite tempted to try them as they seem to be not that long, and the end of the film left me at least intrigued on how it would play out. Nobody has mentioned the similarities to The Thing, but it would appear there's more story where film 1 cuts off.

Basically everyone has different opinions here on what parts of it sucked and what didn't (except the sound - I think we're all in agreement there). I'm a shit reader, but I try to keep busy with something at most times. 200 pages is kinda my jam, but I guess not if it sucks balls. I still have a ways to go in my current novel, but I have a 13 hour flight coming up. Would hate to get stuck on it w/ nothing to read.

[Ixmucane2]

it seems now we finally have a single poster that has read the actual fucking source material. While I guess you can make a good film out of a not so great novel (I argue Blade Runner > Electric Sheep) it's not that easy to do.

So, is the novel that bad? Did you read them all? Everywhere I read it seems to be pretty mixed in response. I'm quite tempted to try them as they seem to be not that long, and the end of the film left me at least intrigued on how it would play out. Nobody has mentioned the similarities to The Thing, but it would appear there's more story where film 1 cuts off.

I'm waiting for this Netflix adaptation to reach TV, but I've read the whole trilogy. The story, rather than progressing, broadens, with complementary topics like the history of the organization and of previous missions, the beginning of the strangeness, the husband of the protagonist, more attention to previously minor characters, interesting abnormal stuff, etc.

[Skykid]

I think that's what she was aiming for.

On the contrary, I think that's the absolute limit of her repertoire. You may need to revisit the film and listen to the words she speaks and imagine them as they are written on paper. Then consider the character: a team leader wielding a gun and giving orders who is also a psychologist.

It's not that the character isn't meant to be afflicted by a superficial weakness and somehow bring that to the screen; it's just that the woman is so unbelievably useless it's beyond all comprehension why you would even hand her a role containing any semblance of nuance. Nay, it's beyond comprehension why you would hand her a role at all. My eyes.

Okay, the end, maybe was a bit over the top for a minute, but while she had like 3x the screen time as Tessa Thompson, she still didn't have enough substance to get so bent out of shape over.

She definitively ruined every shot she was in. She doesn't even know how to stand properly when she has no dialogue.

I have a bit of a soft spot for trashy women.

Well she's about as pure trash as one could wish for, knock yourself out!

[GaijinPunch]

'm waiting for this Netflix adaptation to reach TV, but I've read the whole trilogy. The story, rather than progressing, broadens, with complementary topics like the history of the organization and of previous missions, the beginning of the strangeness, the husband of the protagonist, more attention to previously minor characters, interesting abnormal stuff, etc.

Worth reading? I have no issue with more questions than answers (I encourage it even) but I guess if there are 3 books, I'd expect them to play out a a bit more like a 3 act play. Doesn't sounds like it does that.

: a team leader wielding a gun and giving orders who is also a psychologist.

They made it quite clear they weren't "military types"... by saying those exact words.

It's not that the character isn't meant to be afflicted by a superficial weakness and somehow bring that to the screen; it's just that the woman is so unbelievably useless it's beyond all comprehension why you would even hand her a role containing any semblance of nuance. Nay, it's beyond comprehension why you would hand her a role at all. My eyes.

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She definitively ruined every shot she was in. She doesn't even know how to stand properly when she has no dialogue.

Now you're just Skykidding.

[Skykid]

Whether or not that's true is neither here nor there. Factually speaking the woman can't fucking act for shit.

[Skykid]

ANNIHILATION: REPEAT

VIEWING ONE:

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ANNIHILATION

WITH SPOILAZ

Yeeeeaaaaahhhh... It's not perfect.

Damn I'm good at calling em cos the worst part of this thing was indeed the casting. First up Benedict fucking Wong. Why? The guy can't speak or act for toffee, stop putting him in movies, he just ruins whatever dialogue and screen time afforded to his useless form.

Everyone else was garbage or thereabouts bar Natalie Portman and Oscar Isaac, both of whom managed to bring some semblance of believability to their portrayals of hugely underfed entities.

Tessa Thompson surprisingly and against prediction, was as Gaijinpunch put it: subtle. Subtle enough not to be offensive, anyway, in that her meagre acting skills were hardly called upon and therefore she sort of faded into the background. The other two grunts were fucking awful, but Jesus Christ above, Jennifer Jason Leigh... Wowee. Wow-fucking-ee. Up there with some of the worst excuses for actors I've ever seen in my life. She's like Terence Stamp's female doppelganger.

Jennifer Jason Leigh was great.

Fella, you need to ease up on that pipe.

Jennifer Jason Leigh single-handedly dropped the overall quality of this movie by approximately 30-40%. She was akin to a hobo smack addict that had been pulled out of an alleyway behind the Paramount lot, thrown in some skivvies and given a few lines. She stank up every scene she was in by an impressive margin, uselessly drawled her way through every line as incorrectly as one could possibly utter them considering her character and the situation that character was in. I was *literally* shaking my head in disbelief at some of what was allowed to be committed to camera in her name.

Now I remember being a bit wary of her performance in Hateful Eight. It was one of those tilted-head analyses where I was trying to get a handle on whether or not she was totally shit - and I blame Tarantino being a finer director of actors for somehow obsfucating the fact.

But let it be known and call it from the treetops: the woman is god damned, god awful. I have no idea why she's being cast in movies when she would be far better suited to punching tickets in a car park kiosk.

Now, with that out of the way, the movie was only half successful. I was disappointed by Garland, to a degree. Some of the dialogue was both poor and poorly delivered by its very lacklustre cast. The direction too, irked. I found it incredibly difficult to believe that, faced with a world threatening issue, and after losing several teams of people within 'the shimmer', they would then send in the equivalent of five 12-year-old girls with matching temperaments and aptitude to deal with such a colossal unknown entity.

They went into the thing about as casual as a human being possibly could. They literally didn't seem to give a fuck it was certain death, at all. There was no dialogue to ascertain levels of anxiety or fear, only feeble injections about "nothing to lose" and chicks with shitty life circumstances. It was, by all accounts, completely retarded, and borderline embarrassing. It was so stupidly handled, in-fact, that it was coasting on a fine line of parody at points. I was getting recall flashes of the Ghostbusters female cast watching the way they went about things.

When token butch idiot chick decided to tie her fellow cohorts to chairs because someone had a secret husband and then went on a badly acted rant, I was thinking the entire movie was beyond saving.

But Garland did save it in places. What's good is this:

The horror element is beautifully visually realised. The bleakness of it all and the body horror DNA mutation is genuinely harrowing, recalling The Andromeda Strain and other successful sci-fi plague-em-ups. I got a heady sense of the aesthetic being well married to the idea of cellular disturbance, and I felt as though the world within the shimmer actually existed. So big up to the production designers and Garland for making it feel fairly original in that respect.

The last half an hour improves hugely on what was a borderline wreck early on, not least because pretty much everyone is thankfully dead by that point and only Portman remains. The ending was nicely handled, scary, well-scored, and enough to let you contemplate its ambiguous aspects. It has enough weight to at least partly gloss over how stupidly other areas were handled - and since it contains almost zero dialogue there's not much to cringe at until fucking Benedict Wong turns up in the closing scene just to throw it back into the shitter real quick.

So really I'm torn about it. I want to like it more, but there are some seriously dreadful elements in it. I wish Leigh and Wong were the only dreadful elements, but sadly they're just the most dreadful; and she more than he. There were too many errors in the handling of the characters who you didn't care about, whose names you couldn't remember, and who seemed to be entirely the least best human beings to be doing the job you were trying to buy into them doing - and that hurts.

As a sci-fi piece though, both conceptually and tonally, there's some success here - to the point where it deserves a second viewing perhaps. It's just sad that no matter how many times it's repeated, you'll never get away from the glaring and painful flaws borne mostly of its cast, the performances of that cast, and the silly dialogue and idiotic behaviour of its characters.

I watched it again in a different location with a different audience. Not much changed. I think Garland made the movie well - I like his cinematography and use of panning wide shots - but it's ridden with errors that Ex Machina didn't suffer from.

I already went over the casting, and that remains the movie's number one problem on repeat. Jennifer Jason Leigh is stunningly useless, and so are all the supporting cast bar Portman who manages to compose her character properly.

But there are other issues. Again, the entire idea of sending in five completely inept women with skills that have almost zero use considering that the chances of them returning are approximately zero, is parody. After losing a ton of actual military squads, there is no logical reason why they would send in the group they do unless they all want to die (which certainly isn't the case) or someone wants them all dead. Otherwise it's inexpicable and stupid.

Additionally, the pacing is a bit off. The first half of the movie is slow in a bad way. Where Ex Machina was slow and engaging owing to the exchanges between Oscar Isaac and his employee, increasingly revealing tension and plot developments, here the characters have very little to actually say. Their dialogue is mostly filler and a lot of the scenes have no importance and are cut a little too long. That makes the first half a tad boring, only ever becoming interesting when they discover something or an event occurs.

Bad acting is one thing, but it doesn't help when a bad actor has to deliver bad dialogue. And some of it is supremely inane. I think the line where Diversity Lesbian states "it's a trick of the light" is probably the most idiotic piece of dialogue in the entire movie, but certainly not the only one. A lot of what they spout or comment on is rather pointless and silly.

The second half is mostly where it's at, as I mentioned earlier, because everyone is basically dead by that point.

I don't actually think this movie deserves the critical score on Rotten Tomatoes, but then we're talking about "professional critics" and those guys don't know their ass from their elbows. That said I think the film has plenty of qualities, it's just not as good as it could have been.

[gbaplayer]

Maniac:
A very disturbing movie with a really nice headshot scene and dark atmosphere. I liked it.

[Skykid]

Best headshot in movie history that one. Or at least it's up there.

[EmperorIng]

I still want to see Annihilation, if only because big budget sci-fi with even a hint of edge is very hard to find these days.

The Nest

An enjoyable, not-scary low-budget horror movie about killer roaches. It's got old 50s/60s B-movie man Robert Lansing, who is always great. It might be scary if you are grossed out at the sight of hundreds of real roaches everywhere. It takes a little while to get to the part where roaches are actively killing people, but it at least ups the ante when the roaches inexplicably mutate into their victims, leading to a few wonderful gorey scenes:

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Pretty enjoyable movie. Sadly (or perhaps humorously) the director's commentary points out that he can't quite say that "no animals were harmed in the making of this picture"... I guess it's ok as long as it's cockroaches? Pretty fun!

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

I haven't seen this one in ages. I was outvoted on movie night when I wanted to watch Dog Soldiers. Bleh. I have very fond memories of this movie.

It's still wonderful, but sadly not as wonderful as I remember. I think what gets me the most about it is that it spends way too much time in a single location: that mine underneath the palace. I was perhaps wrongly expecting some more globe-trotting, which all take place in the first 30 minutes. All the setpieces one-after-another are very entertaining (KALI MA!), but I was getting fatigue from watching them all backloaded into the latter half. I had forgotten how much of a non-character the bad guy Molaram was. Wouldn't it make slightly more sense to combine him with the suspicious prime minister who has a reason to turn to magic to root out the British? I felt the focus on a smaller cast made it feel a bit of a step down in scale.

I guess they are minor criticisms and nitpicks. I can on a conceptual level accept it as merely a "different adventure" Indy had. Maybe my memories of Lost Ark/Last Crusade are clouded as well. The mine cart ride - which inspired a thousand-and-one mine-cart levels in video games - still impressed. Unfortunately the TV I watched it on had that motion-blur/double-framerate shit that modern TVs force down your throat which made the effects really stand out in a bad way. God I hate that shit.

Fantastic Planet

Wild, trippy 70s animation. Animated akin to a Monty Python short. There really is nothing like it though. It mixes in surreal imagery with cold brutality as small, tiny feral humans are routinely hunted, killed, or enslaved for amusement by giant blue aliens. It gives the viewer a lot of vignettes that don't do anything to advance the threadbare story, but it does give us a window into a vision of a totally alien and weird world, which more than makes up for the 'interruption.' Its optimistic ending is a little cheesy, but heart-warming in its professed optimism that we don't necessarily need to eradicate one another to solve our differences. The soundtrack is awesome - pure 70s prog bliss.

[Stevens]

The Nest

An enjoyable, not-scary low-budget horror movie about killer roaches. It's got old 50s/60s B-movie man Robert Lansing, who is always great. It might be scary if you are grossed out at the sight of hundreds of real roaches everywhere. It takes a little while to get to the part where roaches are actively killing people, but it at least ups the ante when the roaches inexplicably mutate into their victims, leading to a few wonderful gorey scenes:

I wanted to watch Dog Soldiers

Never seen The Nest, but I absolutely remember that cover from my video store as a kid. There was always something different about going over and looking through the horror movies. I think it because I would never rent one (they wouldn't have let me anyways:) but I thought they were cool to look at.

Dog Soldiers would have been my vote as well.

[drauch]

Yeah, I was pretty surprised with The Nest myself. Always remembered the classic cover, but good nature-run-amok can be hard to find, so I always dismissed it until I put it on one afternoon while doing something else and was instantly grabbed by the small town fun. Really need to watch Dog Soldiers again; I haven't seen it since it came out, but recall liking it. Can't go wrong with that plot, anyway!

Fantastic Planet is rad, but with Rene Laloux I think I prefer Gandahar. Mainly because the mutant group is damned cool.

[soprano1]

In Society (1944)
Good Abbott and Costello comedy. It's probably a stupid question, but were women allowed to drive taxis in the US during the 40's?

[GaijinPunch]

ANNIHILATION: REPEAT

I watched it again in a different location with a different audience. Not much changed. I think Garland made the movie well - I like his cinematography and use of panning wide shots - but it's ridden with errors that Ex Machina didn't suffer from.

I was actually not really moved at all by any wide shots - in fact, I don't recall seeing many (at least in terms of lens magnification). I did like that it was shot in a wide ratio (a hair wider than usual as per IMDB) but didn't feel like it was greatly taken advantage of. Alien Covenant as a whole had more interesting framing... but that was it's only redeeming quality. Only, in the literal sense. But we've beaten that dead horse enough.

But there are other issues. Again, the entire idea of sending in five completely inept women with skills that have almost zero use considering that the chances of them returning are approximately zero, is parody.

Setting aside that it's presumably quite similar to the source material, out of curiosity, had you sent in scores of other teams (mostly dudes with guns), drones, and other shit whilst none of them had any success and the anomaly grew, what would you have done?

[GaijinPunch]

Inherent Vice (2014)

As of the time of this writing, Zen's best recommendation in this thread. Watched this on a plane ride, and it really helped the 12.5 hours go by a bit faster. I guess I can see why this didn't connect as well with larger audiences than PTA's other stuff, but that's not to say I agree with them. It's long, and I guess as a detective/noir story goes, winds up in a few different directions towards the end. But therein lies the gem. Loved the huge cast, and maybe I'm a dip shit, but my favorite of the non-main characters was Martin Short.

Should probably go back over his other stuff at some point. I've not watched Magnolia in ages. Still not see Phantom Thread yet either.

[Some-Mist]

I think that's what she was aiming for.

On the contrary, I think that's the absolute limit of her repertoire.

while that role she's placed in most frequently, you might be surprised that she plays a no nonsense fast lane gal, amy, in the hudsucker proxy.

I also liked her as the voice of lisa the customer service rep in anomalisa

[BIL]

Annihilation (2018) Equal parts pale imitations of John Carpenter’s The Thing and Stalker. Not a slight, necessarily! Fans of those (like me!) will enjoy the creeping body horror and malevolently alluring wilderness. Sandwiched by mild sophistry on one end and rank slasher stupidity on the other, unfortunately; the climax is stylistically dazzling yet inescapably maudlin-feeling given the scale of cosmic doom hanging over the film, and the cast are a bit dumb. Might wanna watch that perimeter, ladies! Oh FFS.

I will give the shaky premise a suspension of disbelief pass. Surely they tried tethering someone, at least for a bit, then it didn't work, because Zone X etc etc. Okay, alright. I don't know what to make of the milquetoast team. I get that previous hardcase units went to shit anyway, but that does not support sending these clowns in, except perhaps as guinea pigs. Okay, alright, I chalk it up to good ol' Assholes Higher Up. Also explains hogging the world-threatening Zone to their Yankee schweinhund selves. Might destroy the planet... but might be valuable minerals in there!

It’s also a bit vacant and thin-spread early on. I have a high threshold for deliberate, even glacial pacing where it’s justified (Valhalla Rising boyeee) but this was not that. Would hesitate to watch with company, at least without caveats that it improves steeply further in.

Nobody has mentioned the similarities to The Thing, but it would appear there's more story where film 1 cuts off.

Definitely got that vibe too, albeit without the starkness of Carpenter’s film. I don’t mind too much I suppose. I don’t think they were going for that bone-chilling sense of unspoken doom.

Also, aw man I was going YEEE, TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH (I’m sure you know when!), and the ensuing scene was good stuff in its own right. Happy feels around then, I was satisfiedly creeped and adrenalised after. Sadly, in the aftermath we get …

I think the line where Diversity Lesbian states "it's a trick of the light" is probably the most idiotic piece of dialogue in the entire movie, but certainly not the only one. A lot of what they spout or comment on is rather pointless and silly.

My pick:

Spoiler

“IT SURE WAS DISTURBING HEARING HER VOICE COMING FROM THAT CREATURE”

You fucking think so, toots?! Oh god. Writing so artless it kinda sours an excellent sugar rush scene. Express same sentiments with less clunk pls, you no-craft mother fuckers!

Stunning audio design PLUS vague semblances of cosmic horror/science fiction classics, BUT a dazzling yet anodyne climax and slasher dumbos = I wasn’t mad, but nor was I exceedingly glad. It’s a decent effort, in a style of science fiction/horror I enjoy greatly. A much better attempt at cosmic-scale yet aggressively toothy terror than the utterly execrable Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

[Skykid]

Annihilation (2018) Equal parts pale imitations of John Carpenter’s The Thing and Stalker. Not a slight, necessarily! Fans of those (like me!) will enjoy the creeping body horror and malevolently alluring wilderness. Sandwiched by mild sophistry on one end and rank slasher stupidity on the other, unfortunately; the climax is stylistically dazzling yet inescapably maudlin-feeling given the scale of cosmic doom hanging over the film, and the cast are a bit dumb. Might wanna watch that perimeter, ladies! Oh FFS.

I will give the shaky premise a suspension of disbelief pass. Surely they tried tethering someone, at least for a bit, then it didn't work, because Zone X etc etc. Okay, alright. I don't know what to make of the milquetoast team. I get that previous hardcase units went to shit anyway, but that does not support sending these clowns in, except perhaps as guinea pigs. Okay, alright, I chalk it up to good ol' Assholes Higher Up. Also explains hogging the world-threatening Zone to their Yankee schweinhund selves. Might destroy the planet... but might be valuable minerals in there!

It’s also a bit vacant and thin-spread early on. I have a high threshold for deliberate, even glacial pacing where it’s justified (Valhalla Rising boyeee) but this was not that. Would hesitate to watch with company, at least without caveats that it improves steeply further in.

Nobody has mentioned the similarities to The Thing, but it would appear there's more story where film 1 cuts off.

Definitely got that vibe too, albeit without the starkness of Carpenter’s film. I don’t mind too much I suppose. I don’t think they were going for that bone-chilling sense of unspoken doom.

Also, aw man I was going YEEE, TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH (I’m sure you know when!), and the ensuing scene was good stuff in its own right. Happy feels around then, I was satisfiedly creeped and adrenalised after. Sadly, in the aftermath we get …

I think the line where Diversity Lesbian states "it's a trick of the light" is probably the most idiotic piece of dialogue in the entire movie, but certainly not the only one. A lot of what they spout or comment on is rather pointless and silly.

My pick:

Spoiler

“IT SURE WAS DISTURBING HEARING HER VOICE COMING FROM THAT CREATURE”

You fucking think so, toots?! Oh god. Writing so artless it kinda sours an excellent sugar rush scene. Express same sentiments with less clunk pls, you no-craft mother fuckers!

Stunning audio design + vague approach of cosmic horror/science fiction classics – dazzling (but also anodyne) ending and slasher dummies = I wasn’t mad but nor was I exceedingly glad. It’s a decent effort in a style of science fiction/horror I enjoy greatly. Much better attempt at cosmic-scale yet aggressively toothy terror than the utterly execrable Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

Basically all this, yes.

I was actually not really moved at all by any wide shots - in fact, I don't recall seeing many (at least in terms of lens magnification).

I liked when the crocoshark booms out of the side of the hut and it's got this panning wide shot that goes with it. I probably noticed that because the movie is so unbelievably slow up to that moment that my brain was hanging on any peg that came with an iota of pace.

Setting aside that it's presumably quite similar to the source material, out of curiosity, had you sent in scores of other teams (mostly dudes with guns), drones, and other shit whilst none of them had any success and the anomaly grew, what would you have done?

Absolutely anything that didn't involve sending in a team of halfwitted depressed bozos to get themselves certain-killed.

[xxx1993]

Pacific Rim: Uprising was really fun! But it had some really shocking twists during the movie I won't spoil for any of you.

[neorichieb1971]

Beyond Skyline -

I was one of the few that really enjoyed the original "Skyline". This story works on the same time line on the other side of LA to begin with, then it moves from the USA altogether. Quite a bit of action in this one. If you watched "RAID" (The asian movie) you will recognize some of the cast here. For those who are not acquainted with the original. Aliens attack earth, but in this one the aliens actually give us a good fight and since there are no Tom Cruises, Arnold Schwarzenggers or Will Smiths, they continue to give us a good fight. Mind you, there are some bits which are really silly. 3 minutes after a sharp object goes through the main characters leg he is able to jump, run and do karate. Its not uncommon to see this sort of thing is normal Hollywood, this is just a cheap thrills ride. Your average Joe would write this one off, but its interesting and has some original content. I'd give it 7/10.

[neorichieb1971]

Cobra Kai Karate Kid -

I never saw this coming

https://www.facebook.com/joblomovietrai ... 809925539/

[Xyga]

North Face (Nordwand) 2008 - based on the 1936 Eiger north face climbing disaster

Certainly honors that scary mountain more than Eastwood's Eiger Sanction, but sadly fails to procure enough thrills. more drama/hell ride than scares and adrenaline rushes, kind of a missed opportunity imho.

[soprano1]

The Big Sleep (1946)
Detective noir movie with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. Love the smart ass dialogue from these movies.

[Xyga]

Touching the Void (2003)

docu-drama of another true story mountaineering adventure, two brits going for a 6000m in Peru in 1985, shit happens, legend is born

a bit of an exhausting watch but with beautiful views and more interesting than North Face

you hear stories but it's hard to believe there are people this tough and resilient

anyway I get that mountaineering films are a lot about pain and suffering lol
probably gonna watch a couple other relatively well-rated, it's my surprise to learn there are so many!


note: I still rank Vertical Limit as one of my favourite ultra campy ridiculous action films though, a real farewell to the 90's, if need to exorcise after all that serious realistic mountain drama, that's the one lol.

[BrianC]

The Big Sleep (1946)
Detective noir movie with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. Love the smart ass dialogue from these movies.

I enjoyed it quite a bit. I also liked To Have and Have Not and Key Largo (Edward G. Robinson is in this one too).

[lilmanjs]

The Big Sleep (1946)
Detective noir movie with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. Love the smart ass dialogue from these movies.

While I prefer the not re-shot and re-edited original version, both versions are pretty good. Film Noir is one of those genres that should have stayed around longer.

[soprano1]

Touch of Evil (1958)
Restored version. A brilliant vision of the fall of a decadent cop played by Orson Welles, opposite Charlton Heston playing a Mexican( ) cop in charge of drug enforcement. Quite the ending, too.

[neorichieb1971]

Pacific rim uprising

Doesn't go in the direction of the original. I find that just like Independence day 2 the story line goes into silly places of which it never recovers from. Both these movies have really similar endings come to think of it. It has action, it has the long drawn out beginning where nothing much happens but talking about the good ole days. It definitely takes a notch down from the 1st movie, there isn't enough stock in the film worth investing in and the characters are slightly weaker. If you don't mind silliness (there is an abundance in Hollywood right now) then by all means check it out.

6/10.

[xxx1993]

Feels like Pacific Rim: Uprising is the kind of movie only fans of the first movie (like myself) would enjoy.